Advice for underweight cat with bad appetite?

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Hi all,

I'd love some feeding advice. My cat (almost 2 year old Maine Coon) can't have dry food or seafood due to bladder sensitivity after a big incident when he was 6 months old which almost killed him. His appetite was never great after his hospital stays back then, but for months he would happily eat TC Premix with turkey for protein and even though he would sometimes still not eat as much as I'd like and was underweight at least he was consistently eating and gaining a tiny bit at a time.

However, I think he developed a turkey allergy. In fact I think he _might_ have some sort of poultry sensitivity in general or maybe a new sensitivity to something in the premix. He does fine on poultry flavored wet foods and grain free foods but the home made raw has started giving him diarrhea all of a sudden, consistently. I suspected a bad batch but this was over 3 different batches (which involved 2 different batches of the premix as well, not just the meat itself). I even tried baking just the outer part of the turkey breast a bit before preparing to make sure all surface bacteria are dead for the last batch, but no matter how careful over several days he would just poop liquid.

In the past I tried switching him to premix with duck instead of turkey, but he flat out refused it. And with him now getting constant diarrhea with turkey there was no opportunity to slowly try to introduce some duck because I couldn't just let him poop brown water every day.

So we decided to switch him off of the raw and find another food to try. But he just won't consistently eat anything since. One meal he will want nothing but his Royal Canin Urinary SO, the next he will flat out refuse it and want some flavor of GranataPet, the next he'll only eat GranataPet or Urinary SO when mixed with Hills Critical Care, etc. And even when I do find the particular food he'll eat for a meal he doesn't eat enough of it. Sometimes he'll want his meal warm and other times it won't make a difference. Sometimes I can convince him to eat a bit of an egg yolk to get more calories in, but not consistently. I tried sprinkling FortiFlora - he liked the smell but refused the taste. It is impossible to predict, and he is still not eating enough.

Just waiting for him to get hungry isn't an option - when he's hungry enough he will eat a few bites at a time and then walk away, and as a result lose weight even further.

He has regular checkups with an internal medicine specialist after his previous incident and over the last 2 checkups she agreed that he was too thin, but after full blood panels and urine tests there was no sign of infection, nutritional imbalance, nutrient absorption difficulties, parasites, etc. She has checked his teeth. The last checkup he was at his heaviest, but that was right before the raw problems started and we had to stop the raw.

There basically doesn't seem to be anything wrong with that part of him - he just won't eat well! There was another kind of commercial raw I used to get at the pet store that he liked a lot (Vom), but one day I found a huge maggot in it, reported it to the store and company, and never fed it to my cats again (that's what made me look into TC Premix, which worked for a while until this happened).

Aside from being picky he is just not that hungry. But he is a big, long cat who is still growing and now weighs 5.1kg (and at this rate I'm afraid he'll keep losing). He is at least 1.5kg underweight. Raw seems to be the one thing he would eat the most of, whether home made or commercial, but so far I haven't found another source of _complete_ commercial raw here in Sweden other than the one that I ditched after the maggot incident. Can someone provide any suggestions for what I can try here (or knows of another complete raw food I can find around Sweden?) Thanks!
 
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Desperately digging around the internet again I may have found another thing I can try: the cats used to eat MUSH as kittens but it was only a supplementary, not complete, food. Now it looks like they have released "Vaisto", which is a complete raw food for cats. I might try to find a place that sells this today and give it a go.
 

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Not sure if you can find RadCat in Sweden, but I'm convinced it's crack for cats. They have great ingredients too. My cats are crazy picky, but they both took immediately to RadCat.
 
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Not sure if you can find RadCat in Sweden, but I'm convinced it's crack for cats. They have great ingredients too. My cats are crazy picky, but they both took immediately to RadCat.
Thanks for the suggestion! Unfortunately I can't find RadCat here at all :( I will contact the company and ask if there might be some obscure reseller that I haven't dug up.

But good news! He went for the new MUSH for two (small) meals straight, and only left a little bit. I had to add some Critical Care on top to get him started both times, but then he went for it. All in all he ate about 50g of the Mush + Critical Care this evening which is not nearly enough for the whole day, but he did eat some Urinary SO at 4am earlier this morning and snacked a tiny bit on GranataPet later this morning before I went to work. Not a full day's meal, but I'm hoping now that we found another source of raw he'll take to that better since he seems to prefer that type of food.

I also found a hairball on the ground today when I got home from work, which I suppose could also have been making him uncomfortable and having him eating less over the last couple of days. Now keeping fingers crossed that he won't decide to turn his nose up at the mush on the next meal like he seems to with everything else.

(sidenote: he seems to know how to eat the raw better. With the other wet food we give him he has this weird way of eating it where his teeth keep clipping the plate, and then he spreads it around everywhere and can't seem to pick it up. It looks really uncomfortable. This raw variety is ground so in theory should be not that different from a normal ground grain free food texture wise, but he manages the mechanics of it look much more graceful somehow :p)
 

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Some canned foods are different, even if they are pate. My cats do better with the super mushy pates, rather than the hard pates that hold the can shape. Maybe add some extra water if it's a stiffer canned food?

You might also try different bowls. Maybe pile it in a small bowl so he doesn't have the room to push it around?
 
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Some canned foods are different, even if they are pate. My cats do better with the super mushy pates, rather than the hard pates that hold the can shape. Maybe add some extra water if it's a stiffer canned food?

You might also try different bowls. Maybe pile it in a small bowl so he doesn't have the room to push it around?
Unfortunately I've tried this - I think the only thing I haven't tried at this point is seeing a cat psychic :D I've tried adding water, serving it cold, serving it warm, serving it lukewarm, serving it in a shallow plate, serving it in a deep plate, big plate, small plate, human plate. I'm losing my mind here!!

He ate more of the raw today - he is still not very enthusiastic and still needs some Critical Care on top, and it slightly warmed up in the microwave, to eat. And he did leave some. But at least I actually got some food into him this morning. He got about half of his daily min requirement in so far, so as long as he can eat at least 3 more raw balls this evening I'll be happy.
 

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Unfortunately I've tried this - I think the only thing I haven't tried at this point is seeing a cat psychic :D I've tried adding water, serving it cold, serving it warm, serving it lukewarm, serving it in a shallow plate, serving it in a deep plate, big plate, small plate, human plate. I'm losing my mind here!!

He ate more of the raw today - he is still not very enthusiastic and still needs some Critical Care on top, and it slightly warmed up in the microwave, to eat. And he did leave some. But at least I actually got some food into him this morning. He got about half of his daily min requirement in so far, so as long as he can eat at least 3 more raw balls this evening I'll be happy.
lazer, your cat's lack of interest in eating reminds me of our cat Ireland's habits: she's about 3.5 years old and also just never seemed very hungry. Sometimes she would sniff her food, look interested, and then walk away. Other times she would eat normally, particularly if it had a "topper." She's always had quirks with her eating, seeming picky and preferring to eat from flat dishes. None of that was truly consistent, though, and I finally realized that she seemed like she might have mild nausea--she also occasionally licked her lips. All this was happening on a diet of various commercial raw and canned foods available in the US; all are grain-free, low-carb, no carrgeenan, and the like because the cats are Siamese mixes and have some food sensitivities.

The good news is that Ireland has been eating very well for the last month or two: the differences are that a) I started feeding the cats homemade cooked food made with a supplement that contains digestive enzymes, b) when I started feeding that food I cut back on their canned foods, and c) I replaced one freeze-dried raw food, which had some vegetables in it, with a higher-quality freeze-dried raw food. I'm not sure what made the biggest difference for Ireland but I suspect it's probably the digestive enzymes because adding the homecooked food was the first change I made and Ireland began showing a more robust interest in food fairly quickly after she started eating that food. I'm also going to ask our vet about probiotics when they have their annual exam later this month. Perhaps one or both of those things would help your cat, too.

What, by the way, if your cat's name? (Or maybe I missed it?)
 
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