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Hi everyone,
Found this forum during my research in how to make a outdoor cat an indoor only cat and I wanted to share my story and situation with all of you in hopes of getting any useful information
and experience in my endeavor to do this. This is going to be a long story, FYI....
I moved into my apartment, which is part of a triplex last November. There were a group of 4 stray/feral cats that obviously seemed to live together since I always saw them together. 3 adults and 1 younger cat/kitten (~1 year old). I at first wasn't going to feed them because I didn't know how long I would be living here and didn't want them to become dependent on me, but my neighbor in the next unit started to feed them scraps and I too started to feed them because i felt bad. The three adults all have clipped ears, so I believe they have been spayed/neutered. We had gotten a couple of emails from our landlord to stop feeding the cats because the neighboring house was complaining about all the cats in the neighborhood using their lawn as a sandbox (at my last count, there were another 4-5 cats roaming around that I counted).
Since then, one of the adults must have moved on because I haven't seen him, another male occasionally walks through, and the kitten was unfortunately hit by a car a month ago. That leaves one more cat, and the subject of this long post. My fiance and I have decided to call her Selina (after Selina Kyle from Batman) since she's black like catwoman. She was always the most friendly out of the bunch and would come up and eat the food I offered at my feet from day one. I've been able to pet her and can even pick her up, although she doesn't like it much and tries to jump out after a couple moments. Because of her level of friendliness, I thought she must have belong to someone at some point and was just a stray, and not feral. I tried to cut down feeding her to once every other day in hopes that maybe she would find someone else that would give her food more often, but that was naive of me to think so since she's been sticking around.
About a month ago, she got a wound on the left-back side, an abscess from what my friend's sister said (she's a vet). I spent the next few weeks cleaning the wound twice a day with an antiseptic spray and cottonballs while feeding her. She didn't seem to mind that I was cleaning up her wound while she was eating, just occasionally giving me this "what are you doing??" look. I would also mix in some propolis powder one a day in some canned food since I've read that its a good natural antibiotic that can also be given to cats in reduced amounts (I was giving ~1/4 to 1/3 of a 550mg capsule). She's all better now, and in the process we've bonded a lot more as a result, which makes the next thing much more difficult to deal with.
Last Monday, I got yet another email from the landlord asking for the third time to stop feeding the cats since the neighbors complained to him again about it. The weather is getting warmer and the smell from cat feces will get worse is what he said. I worry about how much longer I can keep this up of feeding her outside until the landlord or neighbors decide to take a more direct move against this and trap them and take them to the shelter. We all know with near absolute certainty that she would be euthanized, and she deserves better. Even if I managed to be completely like a ninja and feed her without detection, there will come a day that I move out, and she would still keep coming wondering where I went, and who knows what will happen then. I'd like to avoid that, so my options as I saw it were: 1) Find a friend that would be willing to adopt her. I don't have any friends that are able to adopt her now, so this isn't feasible. 2) Find a No-kill shelter to take her in. Since it's the middle of kitten season, all the no-kill shelters in my area (I even checked with places over 2hrs away) are fully booked. I did find one place that would take her in, but they wanted $2500 to take her since she's black, and no one adopts black cats. Sounds like a scam to me, and others on yelp had similar experiences. 3) Take her in myself and try to make an indoor cat out of her.
After spending 3 straight days of worrying, stressing, researching my options, and having probably my first ever anxiety attack, we've decided that we're going to try and take her in and make her an indoor exclusive cat. I've found a number of different articles online about it, most of them with helpful information on what to do, but none of them have anything on what to expect from the cat, timelines, etc. While I know each cat is different, I haven't found many detailed experiences on how that went, so I wanted to document something here. I'm hoping that this will be possible with Selina because she has been coming inside the past few weeks when I've coaxed her with some food. She's usually pretty relaxed when coming inside, although she's careful to make sure that her exit route to the outside is clear. There were a couple of times that I've closed the door behind her to gauge her reaction. As soon as the door has closed, she started to get nervous, trying to find a way outside and meowing constantly. The longest I've done this was about 30min, and her paws were starting to sweat as well (I have dark tiles for the floor). However, when I let her back outside, she makes a quick dash for it, but then quickly comes around and lets me pet her again, like nothing had happened. I was half expecting her to go ballistic and crazy when the doors closed, but based of her reaction, I thought that we may have a chance at converting her.
I spent yesterday getting all of the supplies that I would need to start this journey on transforming Selina from an outdoor cat to an indoor cat. I bought a simple litter box from target and filled it with Cat Attract litter, Comfort Zone Feliway defuser and spray, a 24" cat carrier (to take her to the vet in), some toys (plastic ball with bell inside and feather wand), scratching post, brush and some cat food (dry and wet). I also found a cardboard box and cut an entrance in the front and back for her to go in. I placed all of this inside my bathroom, which is quite small, but larger than a cage. Our apartment is only a 1 bedroom room place, and my fiance wants the bedroom to be a cat-free zone, so the bathroom is the only room available. It has two entrances into it, one from the bedroom, and one from the kitchen. I made sure my fiance and I had taken a shower last night since I won't want us to stress her out anymore with us using the shower with her in the room. We can always take showers at our parents place which isn't too far away although toilet use will be unavoidable. I hope the toilet flushing won't be too stressful for her because there are limits to how accommodating we can be.
And now this story has caught up to today. I had made an appointment with a local vet to have her checked out and to get her shots done. Selina always hangs around in the mornings waiting for food, and I got her to come inside to eat some dry food. I tried to get her to go into the carrier, but she wasn't falling for it, even after I sprayed the feliway inside. After she had finished almost all of it, I burrito wrapped her in a towel and put her inside. It was a bit difficult, but once I had wrapped her, she didn't fight super hard to get out. She started to meow continuously to be let out, and I tried to sooth her by telling her it was alright. I put her in my car, with a towel covering the carrier and drove us down to the vet, which is less than 5min away. Once I got there, I started to fill out paperwork and we were taken into the examination room in about 15 min. Selina was just sitting inside her carrier, occasionally meowing to be let out. And the nurse came in and I explained everything I could about Selina to her, including her behavior and that she was a sweet cat and I could pet and pick her up. The nurse then said that she was just going to take her back and get her weight.
The experience was a complete disaster. When she went to take her out of the carrier, she went crazy. She was jumping all over the room, jumping up the walls, jumping on the sink and hissed at the nurse when she was backed into a corner. I was so afraid that everyone was going to come out of that room hurt. The nurse calmly said "Looks like we won't be taking her weight" and tried to catch her to put her back into the carrier. We had to get a net to catch her before we could put her back in. After we got Selina back in and put the carrier on the table, we waited for the vet to examine her. When the vet came in and tried to get out, she wasn't going to come out again, so they took the carrier apart and tried to look at her from above. The nurse was holding her down by the neck and the vet went to go take a closer look, and round 2 of Selina's craziness started again. At this point the vet told me that she wouldn't be able to examine her unless we got her sedated. Unfortunately this being a Saturday, they have shortened hours and Selina wouldn't recover soon enough for me to take her home, and they're closed on Sunday's. I wholeheartedly agreed with her since trying to do so otherwise would be dangerous to the vet personnel and the cat. We managed to get her to go back into her cage by bringing to cage to her in the corner and pushing it towards her until she got in. Once in, they gave me an estimate on how much the sedation and everything else will cost. They didn't charge me at all for the visit today, despite the time that I took and trouble that I caused them. They're very good people and I will definitely be going back to them.
I brought Selina home and put her carrier in the bathroom that I had setup for her. It took her a few moments to crawl out of it, but she was more calm, albeit scared and stressed. She decided to hide in the corner in front of the sink. She had calmed down a lot compared to the visit to the vet, but was still uncomfortable and stressed. She would still let met pet her and was meowing to be let out. I played some classical music from my phone while we both tried to take a nap in the bathroom, Selina resting in the order and me using the toilet to rest my head on. Over the course of the day I went in and spent about 30min each time with her petting. The second time I walked in, she was resting in the litter box, I'm guessing that Cat Attract litter doing its thing. I just hope that she'll actually use the box for its intended purpose.
Even as the day comes to a close, we had a bit of progress. After dinner, my fiance went in and spent about 30min just brushing her. She said that she was actually really relaxed, and was sprawling out on the floor, and even let her brush her stomach, which I consider great progress. She was also starting to explore the bathroom a bit while my fiance continued to brush her. This was most unexpected considering how things were going earlier in the day. I can only hope that things will continue to progress even more in the coming days. My plan is to slowly expand her access to the apartment in the coming weeks. The first expansion will be into the laundry room area (also small) that leads into the kitchen, but I have made a cardboard wall to restrict access to the kitchen. Then I'll expand to the entire kitchen. After that, will be the whole living/dining room area, which I may try to partition off with more cardboard if possible. As I expand her access to the apartment, I plan on getting a second litter box so she's never too far away from one.
And that's about where I'm at as of this moment. She still hasn't used the litter box yet. She's probably holding it in until she can't hold it anymore. If she goes outside of the box, I plan on putting it back into the box. She also hasn't eaten yet, but I'll leave some dry & half a can of fresh wet food overnight (separate dishes) hoping that she'll eat one of those. She has plenty of water right now. I anticipate that if she refrains from eating/drinking for awhile, I may have to get some chicken soup/stock for her to drink. Hoping that things don't get to that point. I just plan on taking this one day at a time and hope that she will make the adjustment to living indoors. I know I have her begging to get outside again to look forward to, but I'll let my future-self worry about that.
If you've made it through all of that, thank you very much for reading. If you have any advice, or any info on what else I can expect from her, please don't hesitate to share. I've had cats all my life growing up, but never had to make and outdoor cat into an indoor cat, so this is new to me and I'd like to make this transition as smooth as possible. Thank you again,
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Found this forum during my research in how to make a outdoor cat an indoor only cat and I wanted to share my story and situation with all of you in hopes of getting any useful information
and experience in my endeavor to do this. This is going to be a long story, FYI....
I moved into my apartment, which is part of a triplex last November. There were a group of 4 stray/feral cats that obviously seemed to live together since I always saw them together. 3 adults and 1 younger cat/kitten (~1 year old). I at first wasn't going to feed them because I didn't know how long I would be living here and didn't want them to become dependent on me, but my neighbor in the next unit started to feed them scraps and I too started to feed them because i felt bad. The three adults all have clipped ears, so I believe they have been spayed/neutered. We had gotten a couple of emails from our landlord to stop feeding the cats because the neighboring house was complaining about all the cats in the neighborhood using their lawn as a sandbox (at my last count, there were another 4-5 cats roaming around that I counted).
Since then, one of the adults must have moved on because I haven't seen him, another male occasionally walks through, and the kitten was unfortunately hit by a car a month ago. That leaves one more cat, and the subject of this long post. My fiance and I have decided to call her Selina (after Selina Kyle from Batman) since she's black like catwoman. She was always the most friendly out of the bunch and would come up and eat the food I offered at my feet from day one. I've been able to pet her and can even pick her up, although she doesn't like it much and tries to jump out after a couple moments. Because of her level of friendliness, I thought she must have belong to someone at some point and was just a stray, and not feral. I tried to cut down feeding her to once every other day in hopes that maybe she would find someone else that would give her food more often, but that was naive of me to think so since she's been sticking around.
About a month ago, she got a wound on the left-back side, an abscess from what my friend's sister said (she's a vet). I spent the next few weeks cleaning the wound twice a day with an antiseptic spray and cottonballs while feeding her. She didn't seem to mind that I was cleaning up her wound while she was eating, just occasionally giving me this "what are you doing??" look. I would also mix in some propolis powder one a day in some canned food since I've read that its a good natural antibiotic that can also be given to cats in reduced amounts (I was giving ~1/4 to 1/3 of a 550mg capsule). She's all better now, and in the process we've bonded a lot more as a result, which makes the next thing much more difficult to deal with.
Last Monday, I got yet another email from the landlord asking for the third time to stop feeding the cats since the neighbors complained to him again about it. The weather is getting warmer and the smell from cat feces will get worse is what he said. I worry about how much longer I can keep this up of feeding her outside until the landlord or neighbors decide to take a more direct move against this and trap them and take them to the shelter. We all know with near absolute certainty that she would be euthanized, and she deserves better. Even if I managed to be completely like a ninja and feed her without detection, there will come a day that I move out, and she would still keep coming wondering where I went, and who knows what will happen then. I'd like to avoid that, so my options as I saw it were: 1) Find a friend that would be willing to adopt her. I don't have any friends that are able to adopt her now, so this isn't feasible. 2) Find a No-kill shelter to take her in. Since it's the middle of kitten season, all the no-kill shelters in my area (I even checked with places over 2hrs away) are fully booked. I did find one place that would take her in, but they wanted $2500 to take her since she's black, and no one adopts black cats. Sounds like a scam to me, and others on yelp had similar experiences. 3) Take her in myself and try to make an indoor cat out of her.
After spending 3 straight days of worrying, stressing, researching my options, and having probably my first ever anxiety attack, we've decided that we're going to try and take her in and make her an indoor exclusive cat. I've found a number of different articles online about it, most of them with helpful information on what to do, but none of them have anything on what to expect from the cat, timelines, etc. While I know each cat is different, I haven't found many detailed experiences on how that went, so I wanted to document something here. I'm hoping that this will be possible with Selina because she has been coming inside the past few weeks when I've coaxed her with some food. She's usually pretty relaxed when coming inside, although she's careful to make sure that her exit route to the outside is clear. There were a couple of times that I've closed the door behind her to gauge her reaction. As soon as the door has closed, she started to get nervous, trying to find a way outside and meowing constantly. The longest I've done this was about 30min, and her paws were starting to sweat as well (I have dark tiles for the floor). However, when I let her back outside, she makes a quick dash for it, but then quickly comes around and lets me pet her again, like nothing had happened. I was half expecting her to go ballistic and crazy when the doors closed, but based of her reaction, I thought that we may have a chance at converting her.
I spent yesterday getting all of the supplies that I would need to start this journey on transforming Selina from an outdoor cat to an indoor cat. I bought a simple litter box from target and filled it with Cat Attract litter, Comfort Zone Feliway defuser and spray, a 24" cat carrier (to take her to the vet in), some toys (plastic ball with bell inside and feather wand), scratching post, brush and some cat food (dry and wet). I also found a cardboard box and cut an entrance in the front and back for her to go in. I placed all of this inside my bathroom, which is quite small, but larger than a cage. Our apartment is only a 1 bedroom room place, and my fiance wants the bedroom to be a cat-free zone, so the bathroom is the only room available. It has two entrances into it, one from the bedroom, and one from the kitchen. I made sure my fiance and I had taken a shower last night since I won't want us to stress her out anymore with us using the shower with her in the room. We can always take showers at our parents place which isn't too far away although toilet use will be unavoidable. I hope the toilet flushing won't be too stressful for her because there are limits to how accommodating we can be.
And now this story has caught up to today. I had made an appointment with a local vet to have her checked out and to get her shots done. Selina always hangs around in the mornings waiting for food, and I got her to come inside to eat some dry food. I tried to get her to go into the carrier, but she wasn't falling for it, even after I sprayed the feliway inside. After she had finished almost all of it, I burrito wrapped her in a towel and put her inside. It was a bit difficult, but once I had wrapped her, she didn't fight super hard to get out. She started to meow continuously to be let out, and I tried to sooth her by telling her it was alright. I put her in my car, with a towel covering the carrier and drove us down to the vet, which is less than 5min away. Once I got there, I started to fill out paperwork and we were taken into the examination room in about 15 min. Selina was just sitting inside her carrier, occasionally meowing to be let out. And the nurse came in and I explained everything I could about Selina to her, including her behavior and that she was a sweet cat and I could pet and pick her up. The nurse then said that she was just going to take her back and get her weight.
The experience was a complete disaster. When she went to take her out of the carrier, she went crazy. She was jumping all over the room, jumping up the walls, jumping on the sink and hissed at the nurse when she was backed into a corner. I was so afraid that everyone was going to come out of that room hurt. The nurse calmly said "Looks like we won't be taking her weight" and tried to catch her to put her back into the carrier. We had to get a net to catch her before we could put her back in. After we got Selina back in and put the carrier on the table, we waited for the vet to examine her. When the vet came in and tried to get out, she wasn't going to come out again, so they took the carrier apart and tried to look at her from above. The nurse was holding her down by the neck and the vet went to go take a closer look, and round 2 of Selina's craziness started again. At this point the vet told me that she wouldn't be able to examine her unless we got her sedated. Unfortunately this being a Saturday, they have shortened hours and Selina wouldn't recover soon enough for me to take her home, and they're closed on Sunday's. I wholeheartedly agreed with her since trying to do so otherwise would be dangerous to the vet personnel and the cat. We managed to get her to go back into her cage by bringing to cage to her in the corner and pushing it towards her until she got in. Once in, they gave me an estimate on how much the sedation and everything else will cost. They didn't charge me at all for the visit today, despite the time that I took and trouble that I caused them. They're very good people and I will definitely be going back to them.
I brought Selina home and put her carrier in the bathroom that I had setup for her. It took her a few moments to crawl out of it, but she was more calm, albeit scared and stressed. She decided to hide in the corner in front of the sink. She had calmed down a lot compared to the visit to the vet, but was still uncomfortable and stressed. She would still let met pet her and was meowing to be let out. I played some classical music from my phone while we both tried to take a nap in the bathroom, Selina resting in the order and me using the toilet to rest my head on. Over the course of the day I went in and spent about 30min each time with her petting. The second time I walked in, she was resting in the litter box, I'm guessing that Cat Attract litter doing its thing. I just hope that she'll actually use the box for its intended purpose.
Even as the day comes to a close, we had a bit of progress. After dinner, my fiance went in and spent about 30min just brushing her. She said that she was actually really relaxed, and was sprawling out on the floor, and even let her brush her stomach, which I consider great progress. She was also starting to explore the bathroom a bit while my fiance continued to brush her. This was most unexpected considering how things were going earlier in the day. I can only hope that things will continue to progress even more in the coming days. My plan is to slowly expand her access to the apartment in the coming weeks. The first expansion will be into the laundry room area (also small) that leads into the kitchen, but I have made a cardboard wall to restrict access to the kitchen. Then I'll expand to the entire kitchen. After that, will be the whole living/dining room area, which I may try to partition off with more cardboard if possible. As I expand her access to the apartment, I plan on getting a second litter box so she's never too far away from one.
And that's about where I'm at as of this moment. She still hasn't used the litter box yet. She's probably holding it in until she can't hold it anymore. If she goes outside of the box, I plan on putting it back into the box. She also hasn't eaten yet, but I'll leave some dry & half a can of fresh wet food overnight (separate dishes) hoping that she'll eat one of those. She has plenty of water right now. I anticipate that if she refrains from eating/drinking for awhile, I may have to get some chicken soup/stock for her to drink. Hoping that things don't get to that point. I just plan on taking this one day at a time and hope that she will make the adjustment to living indoors. I know I have her begging to get outside again to look forward to, but I'll let my future-self worry about that.
If you've made it through all of that, thank you very much for reading. If you have any advice, or any info on what else I can expect from her, please don't hesitate to share. I've had cats all my life growing up, but never had to make and outdoor cat into an indoor cat, so this is new to me and I'd like to make this transition as smooth as possible. Thank you again,
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