My kitten stopped self grooming!!Need help!!

Ok,so as its obvious from my name ,i have just got a new kitten,i have never had one before so thats why i concerned that much,my mum did have one but she says she never faced my kitten's problem in hers so i really need help for this[emoji]128543[/emoji]
So my kitten is about 56 days old (nearly 2 months) and since the first day i brought him home(43 days old) he has been really clean and always self groomed but now just suddenly ,he started grooming every part of his body except his toilet parts and whenever i lean his nose down to it to let him smell his bad toilet scent he refuses much more to lick himself, he can even lick his legs but never does down,
So thats really tempting me alot cos' i know he's a clean cat and a really smart one and he actually sleeps on my bed so i wouldnt like to see cat pope crumbles on my bed ,do i?!! So please , i really need help cos' my mum just got angry from his bad habbit and she wants to return him back to where we bought him from!
Urgent help please!
As soon as possible!

Welcome!

Your kitten was taken too young from its mother and did not entirely learn how to be a cat. Now you have to teach him! You can help him by wiping him a few times a day on him tummy and genitals with a warm, damp cloth. That should get him all cleaned up and give him a reminder.

It doesn't help to get frustrated because he's really just a baby - he needed 2-6 more weeks with mom and his litter mates, ideally. Where did you get him?

Have you been able to take him to a vet for vaccines and deworming?

Wanted to add, I'm not blaming you at all, but this does create some extra work and extra need for patience.

Thanks talkingpeanut
Well i've thought about wiping him myself but wouldn't that let him get used to that,i mean wouldn't that teach him that someone should always do that for him? Mmm..and he was actually a gift from my aunt and i dont know anything but that somehow she knew a woman with a pregnant cat and asked her to give her one of her kittens and the woman said she could take him after 40 days to be able to have him young.
Mmm..my mum says that siamese kittens are kinda smarter than other kinds and thats why she got worried about his frequent changes that happen to his habits like playing aggressively and eating "alot" of meat and forgetting to self groom and his like for sleeping on the bathroom ceramics and biting and scratching too much.
But thanks so much ,you've actually calmed me down so much and i 'll start by trying to wipe him myself and i'll do my best to use your advice[emoji]128522[/emoji]

Nope!  Kittens learn by mom teaching them.  Your kitten doesn't have a mom anymore, so you have to teach him.  Siamese do tend to be smart, but you still have a baby who is still learning.  And of course there is still variety in any breed.  It also doesn't sound like you have a purebred.

All kittens play aggressively.  You want to play with him a lot, several times a day until he is totally tired and worn out.  Ideally you use a wand toy or a laser, something that puts distance between your body and the toy.  Never let him play with your hands.  If he starts to go for your hands, give him a toy to go for instead.  You can also say ouch and walk away.  NEVER hit your kitten.  He needs to learn limits like he would from his litter mates.  

Do you have a scratching post for him?

Kittens also need constant access to food.  He should have kitten kibble down for him 24/7 and then 4 or so meals of wet kitten food throughout the day.  He is a tiny guy with a tiny tummy and he should never have to be hungry.

Like I said, you'll need to schedule a vet check up for this week too.

In the future, you want kittens to stay with their litters for 10-12 weeks.  Let us know if you have any other questions!

Well,first of all,
no, i havent given him any vaccines yet but i have taken him to a vet before(17 days ago) and the doctor said it was still early,i just dont know when the right time is,she just told me it wasn't at that time
Second of all,
I don't have a scratching post for him but i do get scratched, like alot , should i post that ,i mean i dont think its much of a big deal, i know he's young
Oh and lastly, we dont think either that he's of a purebred, we think he's mixed with the shirazi breed
Well, he is surely a tiny guy but he's "hyperactive" like a puppy!

NewkittenH said:

Well,first of all,
no, i havent given him any vaccines yet but i have taken him to a vet before(17 days ago) and the doctor said it was still early,i just dont know when the right time is,she just told me it wasn't at that time
Second of all,
I don't have a scratching post for him but i do get scratched, like alot , should i post that ,i mean i dont think its much of a big deal, i know he's young
Oh and lastly, we dont think either that he's of a purebred, we think he's mixed with the shirazi breed
Well, he is surely a tiny guy but he's "hyperactive" like a puppy!

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Kittens get their first vaccines at 8 weeks, so now is right about when you'll need to take him back to the vet.  it's very important that you do this on time so his immunity develops properly.

Getting a scratching post is a great idea.  You want to show him that it's the right place to scratch so that furniture and people don't look so appealing.  You are going to get scratched, but you should take every single opportunity as a learning opportunity.  He is so young and learning every second.  He will learn from repetition, and you don't want him to learn bad habits.  You are his only mom and siblings now.

Keep asking questions!  We'd love to see pictures.

You can call the vet and ask when they would like to begin seeing him again. He needs to weigh 2 pounds to begin his shots.

Talkingpeanut
Oops sorry now i get it "a scratching post" ok its actually a really great idea ,i'll make sure to get him one
Thanks for the help
Sarthur2
Thank you , i'll call the vet and ask first to make sure.
Thanks

Sorry but can i ask if anyone knows a name of a good book maybe for cats or specifically training siamese kittens
I would really use the help to get to know more about their daily routines and feelings and their stuff
My kitten has totally gotten out of control , i mean if i'm gonna be his mum how should i teach him that i'm not actually a cat like him and i shouldn't get scratched
He's turned crazy now by time ,he no longer plays without biting and scratching that leads to serious blood
At first when we wanted to pat on him we knew the right time was after he had just woken up from a nap, that would be a perfect time to smooth fun kitten time before he turns all beasty and starts biting but now, i mean , i can no longer pat on him without getting a severe scratch and pain!!I know he's still young for this, thats why i hate sitting beside him reading or sleeping cos' i know he's gonna be up for my eyes or face and attacking my arms
Is that what real cats do??!!I'm really considered because i still love him with all those scratches and bites that he gives me and i'm really working hard to get him "fixed" back into a real kitten not a furious cat!!
I know i'm asking alot but its just, i cant control him anymore, and everyday he's getting worse and his scratches are harder to avoid!)![emoji]128547[/emoji]

Can you tell us how you are playing with him?

It sounds like a free for all. You must set limits immediately. Do not allow your kitten to play with your hands, feet, or any other body part. Say "no" firmly and disengage. Say "ow" very firmly. Walk away.

This is a normal phase that kittens go through, because they do not know any better, especially when they have no mom cat to teach them.

It's best to use a toy on a string or stick to engage him until he is tired. If necessary, a gentle scruffing by the neck along with a firm "no" helps. Also hissing at him will work wonders. Literally, hiss, when he engages in bad behavior. That is what mom would do. He will get the message quickly.

Keep your body off-limits in the meantime, while re-directing through toys and hissing, and your kitten will learn quickly!

Let us know how it goes!

It would be a good idea to trim your kittens claws.
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Well,at first when we first brought him he was too quiet and always sleepy amd so polite and liked to sneak on to the bed and sleep right next to us at night and i felt that it was nice as he didn't ever harm us, then day by day he started getting smartly stubborn and would do what he wants , he would pee or pope anywhere and refuse to sleep anywhere but our beds or under the treadmill and still playing with him was fine , we used to tickle him or like put our hands above him where he would try to jump or stand up atleast for a second or 2 or bring him toys which he never actually showed any interest in.
When he started growing up too fast to jumping higher and aggressively trying to bite everything like crazily even if it was metal and would turn mad if it doesn't break with him ,he started going for our legs dangling from the bed and the bed sheets and robes,and though it was the time when we were able to teach him to pee in his litterbox , yet he still forgets his litterbox place when he enters my moms room maybe because it has alot of hiding places , we'd only know he wants to pee when he's quiet or scratching the ground as if it was sand to cover his pee
All that time we tried giving him toys but he wouldn't like them, we tried balls ,cat teasers and he would actually leave the object dangling from the string and go for the string or the plastic stick itself through my hands, we tried blankets he would go crazy for but then just hide from,and we tried playing with our hands without touching him he would only try to catch our hands until he gets tired
But all those toys he would get bored of them so quickly even the most effective ones which is the ball, he would go crazy for it and then just leave it after less than a minute exactly and look for us around the house to go for our feets
I know it might seem like we taught him to play with our hands but we only started playing with our hands with him when he always slept out of boredom of the other toys so we felt sorry for him as he didn't like playing alone, i even tried teaching him to sit and stand up and things like that and praising him by treats but he wouldn't do anything but go for the treat in my hands or even if there isnt any treat he would still bite it of its odour,
We tried using sounds to stop him like clapping, hissing, shouting,..but he wouldn't stop and we tried splashing water he would hide and jump again , he doesnt always listen to our call for him he only comes when he sees our fingers down on the ground ready for his attack, when we enter a room an leave him outside he goes to the door and meows forever or even knocks the garbage to the floor so we'd let him enter
For his food he goes for the meat and likes to go for our plates even if our plate's food is the same as his,
When he gets that he's done something wrong and thats when we scream from his scratch he runs to hide in the reception and can stay there for a whole day until we'd bring him back in
For now he only seeks for the cold ceramic spots even if it is in the bathroom to sleep on or goes for my pillows
He tried running out of the house before when the door was opened and ran for the milk of a stray cat outside the house, he scratches the beds and the chairs so hard and when we hold him too long to calm him down he acts as if he got calm and as we put him down he tirns crazier and starts meowing, scratching and biting even harder and i don't know what that is but he starts putting one leg up and side pounces and when someone tries holding him he rolls on the floors ,jumps and runs everywhere and his only medication at that time is locking ourselves in our rooms and leaving him outside until he sleeps under the reception table and when we bring him back in he starts it all back again.
I don't know what that is but i guess we've tried everything and i even get surprised that pet dogs don't even do that nor stray cats, stray cats are even politer when it comes to passing down the street, they surely don't attack my feet
I really am trying hard but i cant seem able to touch anymore he's always either sleeping or biting and attacking
Sorry for being that long but my mum thinks we totally should change him for a girl that is much calmer and pure siamese breed but i just feel sorry for him for somehow i know i did all what i had but still i think he's young to let him go
Lastly i just seem amazed at how avoiding his scratches might actually let us have 7 rooms in the house yet he owns all when we're locked at 3!!!

Ok, that is a lot of helpful information.  Thank you for writing it all out.  How old are you?

When you first brought your kitten home he was very, very young and traumatized.  How he acted was not a reflection of his personality.  He is now acting like a normal, hyper kitten.  You need to start setting boundaries like he would be learning from mom and his litter mates.  He is acting no differently than any other kitten would - a girl would be exactly the same and so would a pure bred Siamese.  The only way a kitten would be better behaved would be if it stayed with its family for the proper 12-16 weeks.  You do not have a bad kitten.  You have a kitten.

That is not the situation here, so here is what you can do:

@Red Top Rescue  Can you weigh in with how you trained your foster?

Never, ever play with your hands.  Carry a toy with you at all times that is around the size of your kitten.  If the kitten needs to play, you introduce the toy as an alternate for a playmate.  You can also use wand toys and lasers.  Only toys that create distance between your body and the toy.

If he attacks, the kitten gets a time out.  He can go in another room for ten minutes or so, or you go in another room.  You do not scream, you do not hit, you not spray him, you do not pay attention, but you walk away.  I agree that trimming nails would be a good idea.

How often are you feeding him?

He should not be allowed outside at all!  This is very dangerous!  

I think he is being overstimulated right now, but is also bored.  He needs more constructive, active play time.  He also needs to not be allowed so much run of the house.  Set him up in a room or two with lots of fun things to do.  Tire him out with play several times a day - really wipe him out.  Allow him to have constant access to food.  No access to outside.