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My two did fine on either side of the sliding door.  Yet once inside, it was game on!  Cats are so territorial and my resident cat owned it all.  He was not happy about sharing.  Then the new guy wanted all the territory.  I had to do what felt like back flips to get them adjusted.  Yet my feral boy had been living outside on his own for over 1.5 years.  He was a bully with other cats, but became very sweet with my family.  He still runs and hides with loud noises and little things still set him off, but he is so happy inside the house.  Once inside, he never ever tried to get out the door. 

You always can test the waters and see how things go.  I tried that with my two.  All went well for a week and then the storm came crashing down.  Yet we regrouped and started very slow intros. 

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Oh that is so smart!!! Are those curtain rods?
Since it took like you said a very very very long time for them to accept each other, was the feral kept in the room for that time? I'm concerned because I will be moving to Wisconsin for 1 year at the end of August to finish my residency and my fiancé will stay back with the cats. I have been in charge of the socialization process and I'm not sure how he would manage cats who hate each other. I mean worst case I take Oskar with me for that year...

 

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They are cheap tension rods!  I used the baby gate in the door way for extra protection.  The screen was pretty flimsy, but it worked well. 

My two were both headstrong males.  You have a year and that should be plenty of time.  My feral boy had a room of his own for about one year.  But after about 6-9 months he was out during the day while we were home.  If we left the house, into his room he went and he also stayed in his room at night.  By 9 months, we could leave both boys out alone during the day, but the feral boys still wanted to be in his room at night.  It was as though he needed alone time!  By the year mark, the cats were out 24/7.  The coexisted, but basically ignored each other.  Then after 3 months of being out together, they started to play.  They are now good buddies. 

I would be sure your fiancee is also involved in some of the socialization and introductions.  Oskar needs to get used to him.  I usually start with food rewards.  Also be sure that when you are working with her that you sit on the floor.  Don't loom over her.  Also watch direct eye contact.  That often freaks cats out.  Keep your gaze down or look over the top of her head.  Offer yummy treats something extra special like stinky fish or plain cooked chicken.  Get your fiancee involved by having him sit and offer her food! 

I am sure that a year will be plenty of time.  She seems like a very laid back kitty. 

I think the thing that I learned the most about introducing my two was to not set lofty goals.  Just allow things to happen.  When  you set goals and they don't work, you become frustrated and panicky.  Just know the steps you need to take, but don't set a time limit.  That is what causes stress.  The cats pick up on the stress and then you have a set back.  Remaining calm yourself is so very important!
 
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They are cheap tension rods!  I used the baby gate in the door way for extra protection.  The screen was pretty flimsy, but it worked well. 

My two were both headstrong males.  You have a year and that should be plenty of time.  My feral boy had a room of his own for about one year.  But after about 6-9 months he was out during the day while we were home.  If we left the house, into his room he went and he also stayed in his room at night.  By 9 months, we could leave both boys out alone during the day, but the feral boys still wanted to be in his room at night.  It was as though he needed alone time!  By the year mark, the cats were out 24/7.  The coexisted, but basically ignored each other.  Then after 3 months of being out together, they started to play.  They are now good buddies. 

I would be sure your fiancee is also involved in some of the socialization and introductions.  Oskar needs to get used to him.  I usually start with food rewards.  Also be sure that when you are working with her that you sit on the floor.  Don't loom over her.  Also watch direct eye contact.  That often freaks cats out.  Keep your gaze down or look over the top of her head.  Offer yummy treats something extra special like stinky fish or plain cooked chicken.  Get your fiancee involved by having him sit and offer her food! 

I am sure that a year will be plenty of time.  She seems like a very laid back kitty. 

I think the thing that I learned the most about introducing my two was to not set lofty goals.  Just allow things to happen.  When  you set goals and they don't work, you become frustrated and panicky.  Just know the steps you need to take, but don't set a time limit.  That is what causes stress.  The cats pick up on the stress and then you have a set back.  Remaining calm yourself is so very important!
I'm always on the floor with her and when she catches me looking at her I close my eyes and she blinks back. I'm starting with introducing the fiancé. Yesterday I made him just lay on the couch for the entire time she was upstairs at night so she can just get used to him in the room. Next is sitting up and then I'll have him start sitting on the floor trying to play with her and feeding her. She is a very relaxed kitty in fact. We thought that when we eventually do sight visits we'll just start with 1 cat to avoid overwhelming her. What do you think? Bad idea? I worry about my female resident cat because she was here first and although Catsby seems to be alpha, Uszka has occasionally shown dominant behaviors when Oskar was still outside (i.e., jumping up the screen door).
 

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Yes, starting with one cat is much less intimidating.  I would start with the cat that is the most relaxed. 

Have you seen the Jackson Galaxy video on introducing cats?  I found it really helpful. 

 
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Yes, starting with one cat is much less intimidating.  I would start with the cat that is the most relaxed. 

Have you seen the Jackson Galaxy video on introducing cats?  I found it really helpful. 
Oh yes! When we brought Catsby in we followed all recommendations and had great success! Obviously took a while for Uszka to accept and now love Catsby but we will do exactly the same thing.

I just ordered the spirit essence Peacemaker just to get them ready for sight visits. I'm still debating who to introduce first. Catsby is 11 months old and very very playful to the point of annoying Uszka (1.5 years old) but initially he's generally reserved. Total sweetheart tho. Uszka is the classic anxious cat. Easily startled but also very very sweet. However, as I mentioned earlier, she has jumped up the screen a few times to show Oskar who's the boss I think. Last summer they were good buddies through the screen door but after the winter things seem to have changed. I THINK I'll start with Catsby and see how things go.
 
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Yes, starting with one cat is much less intimidating.  I would start with the cat that is the most relaxed. 

Have you seen the Jackson Galaxy video on introducing cats?  I found it really helpful. 
I think we are ready for the first sight visit/feeding date with Catsby. While Oskar seemed to feel more relaxed in her room initially, she's becoming more agitated in there (meowing and pacing). When upstairs, she does NOT pace or meow at night (weird?) but during the day she still paces (no meows tho) around the porch door for about 15 minutes until plopping down and relaxing. Last night she was especially snuggly (see video but please don't judge my dirty scrubs haha) and discovered how awesome head and chin scratches are! 

Anything I should look out for? I've only introduced cats once, and Catsby was an itty bitty 4 week old nugget, which made things much easier. Catsby has been in her room while she was out today and didn't seem to mind, I have fed Oskar off of a cloth that I rubbed all over Catsby's face, and Catsby has been playing with all of the toys she rubbed against and licked so I guess scent wise they know each other.  

Thanks SO much for your advice, ShadowsRescue! 

 

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Wow!!  She is doing so so well!!

What you want to watch for is any growling, hissing, biting, tail swishing, posturing or ears going flat.  These are all signs of agitation.  I like to start the sessions very very short.  If possible have you on one side with Oskar and your fiancee on the other side with Catsby.  Offer yummy treats rewards to both.  You want them to associate good things with the other and food is usually the way to their heart.  Keep the sessions short so that you can always end on a positive note.  Sometimes this is hard and not possible.  I would aim for 5 minutes or less for the first visit.  Then gradually increase.  If there is any hissing, growling, posturing, etc..  Just stop the session.  Don't get upset.  Just close the door and go about your business and then try again another time, but do a shorter visit.

I like to do many short visits throughout the day if possible.  It gives more exposure than one longer visit. 

Oskar is so lucky to have you and be inside where she will have 24/7 love and happiness!!
 
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Wow!!  She is doing so so well!!

What you want to watch for is any growling, hissing, biting, tail swishing, posturing or ears going flat.  These are all signs of agitation.  I like to start the sessions very very short.  If possible have you on one side with Oskar and your fiancee on the other side with Catsby.  Offer yummy treats rewards to both.  You want them to associate good things with the other and food is usually the way to their heart.  Keep the sessions short so that you can always end on a positive note.  Sometimes this is hard and not possible.  I would aim for 5 minutes or less for the first visit.  Then gradually increase.  If there is any hissing, growling, posturing, etc..  Just stop the session.  Don't get upset.  Just close the door and go about your business and then try again another time, but do a shorter visit.

I like to do many short visits throughout the day if possible.  It gives more exposure than one longer visit. 


Oskar is so lucky to have you and be inside where she will have 24/7 love and happiness!!
First sight visit didn't go so well and I think it was partially my fault. I have several questions.

We set up the stacked baby gates on the upper level because she's been somewhat more agitated in her room and always just wants to go upstairs. I think that was my big mistake. I should have put them at her door, right?

What happened was this: fiancé was with Catsby on one side and I was on the other. Both cats had a plate of tuna on either side about 5 feet away on either side. While Catsby gobbled it up, Oskar completely avoided going by the gates and seemed far more agitated. God my heart hurt when I saw her in distress. It's the last thing I want to cause. After Cataby was finished he just sat by the gate and looked all curious, ears forward, sniffing at the gate waiting for her to come close. When she finally went past, she got a somewhat puffy tail, hissed, and rushed downstairs.

Maybe it's just too soon. Maybe I should try again in a week. How would I know if she's ready for sight visits?

I can't even begin to describe how awful I feel about scaring her and how worried I am that I may have ruined what we have achieved over the last week. Am I catastrophizing? I didn't by any means expect to have them be immediate BFFs, tho at least I thought I could get her to eat her favorite treat in the same room as Cataby. Understandably, when she's scared she doesn't care about food.
 

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What you described is perfectly normal for a first sight visit.  Did you by chance start with scent swapping first?  If not, dont' do any more sight visits and do the scent swapping.  Take a clean wash cloth or towel and rub Oskar all over with it.  Be sure to get under her chin and on the pads of her feet if you can.  Scent glands are located there.  Then take this towel out to your other cats.  Just set it down on the floor and walk away.  Allow them to explore it on their own.

Next take 2 more wash clothes or towels and rub your other cats scents on the wash clothes.  Do each cat separately.  Take the wash clothes into Oskar's room and set them down.  Just see what happens.  Next take the wash cloth you wiped Oskar down with and rub the scent all over the other two cats.  This is called scent mixing.  Do the same with the two wash clothes in Oskar's room.  Just lightly rub the 2 towels on her.  Try doing this every day for the next 3-5 days.

I would skip sight visits right now.  Stick with scent swapping.

Also the most important step is for you to remain calm.  If you are freaking out and worried all the time, the cats will pick up on this.  They will think something is wrong.  You really have to just let things happen and not worry so much about a time line.  If something goes wrong, just close the doors, walk away and know that you can try again the next day. 

Most cats do learn to co exist.  As for being bff's, that times time.  Cats have different personalities just like people.  But the majority of cats will learn to live in the same house with each other without tearing each other apart. 
 
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What you described is perfectly normal for a first sight visit.  Did you by chance start with scent swapping first?  If not, dont' do any more sight visits and do the scent swapping.  Take a clean wash cloth or towel and rub Oskar all over with it.  Be sure to get under her chin and on the pads of her feet if you can.  Scent glands are located there.  Then take this towel out to your other cats.  Just set it down on the floor and walk away.  Allow them to explore it on their own.

Next take 2 more wash clothes or towels and rub your other cats scents on the wash clothes.  Do each cat separately.  Take the wash clothes into Oskar's room and set them down.  Just see what happens.  Next take the wash cloth you wiped Oskar down with and rub the scent all over the other two cats.  This is called scent mixing.  Do the same with the two wash clothes in Oskar's room.  Just lightly rub the 2 towels on her.  Try doing this every day for the next 3-5 days.

I would skip sight visits right now.  Stick with scent swapping.


Also the most important step is for you to remain calm.  If you are freaking out and worried all the time, the cats will pick up on this.  They will think something is wrong.  You really have to just let things happen and not worry so much about a time line.  If something goes wrong, just close the doors, walk away and know that you can try again the next day. 

Most cats do learn to co exist.  As for being bff's, that times time.  Cats have different personalities just like people.  But the majority of cats will learn to live in the same house with each other without tearing each other apart. 
I did wipe my 2 cats down (mostly facial area) and fed Oskar treats off of those cloths. However, Oskar won't let me wipe her down. All I was able to do was place it on the windowsill where she lays down and give that to my 2 cats to eat treats off of. Scent exchange may be hard given that I can't touch her with those cloths but I will continue feeding her off of those for now.

As for where the next sight visit should happen, would you recommend at her room?

Thanks so much for your support. This is harder on me than I anticipated. I just want the best for Oskar and hate to see her agitated.
 

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When you start up sight visits again, definitely do them from her room. Use the double stacked baby gates.  You might even start with the double stacked gates and a blanket or sheet over them.  This allows the cats to sniff and smell without seeing each other.  Then you can gradually raise the sheet.  Remember to start with just a few minutes.  You might want to not use a bowl of food, but instead just offer each cat a piece of tuna.  You want this to be brief and positive.  You can do the sight visits more than once a day as long as they are going well.

Since you can't wipe Oskar down, you also could place a towel in a specific place she sleeps.  If she won't sleep on it then under her food is ok too.  You also could put a large towel on the floor and play with her on it.  You really want there to be scent swapping first?  What have the other cats done with her scent?  You want to see them actively sniffing.  Since it is just under her food bowl, they may mostly smell food.  Try to get her to sit or lay on a towel.  Since you can scratch the top of her head, you could wear a cloth glove and scratch her head and try to get under her chin.  That would be great to use for your other cats to sniff. 
 
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When you start up sight visits again, definitely do them from her room. Use the double stacked baby gates.  You might even start with the double stacked gates and a blanket or sheet over them.  This allows the cats to sniff and smell without seeing each other.  Then you can gradually raise the sheet.  Remember to start with just a few minutes.  You might want to not use a bowl of food, but instead just offer each cat a piece of tuna.  You want this to be brief and positive.  You can do the sight visits more than once a day as long as they are going well.

Since you can't wipe Oskar down, you also could place a towel in a specific place she sleeps.  If she won't sleep on it then under her food is ok too.  You also could put a large towel on the floor and play with her on it.  You really want there to be scent swapping first?  What have the other cats done with her scent?  You want to see them actively sniffing.  Since it is just under her food bowl, they may mostly smell food.  Try to get her to sit or lay on a towel.  Since you can scratch the top of her head, you could wear a cloth glove and scratch her head and try to get under her chin.  That would be great to use for your other cats to sniff. 
The blanket was definitely my next step. AND I need to try the scent swapping for sure. Her smell is all over the house already because when she's upstairs she rubs against everything and loves rolling around on the carpet and toys. The blanket she had been using for a week on the windowsill I exchanged with the other 2s blanket they've been using on the couch upstairs. Additionally the cloths I rubbed all over my 2 are refreshed daily and in addition to first letting her smell them and then putting treats on them I also play with her in those. Lastly, I also placed a cloth in the spot where she sleeps. Overall, all cats are very interested in smelling and don't show any signs of agitation. I remember when I did that after brining Catsby in, Uszka would growl and hiss at everything that smelled like him. Not seeing that right now. In fact, mine actually seem to miss her. The first thing we did every morning was to open the porch door and say hi to Oskar through the screen. They still run there and look where she is or when I ask them where Oskar is at they always run to the porch door.
 
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The last few days have been going really well but it's time for some new advice regarding Oskar. She comes out at least 3x per day and while she previously only seemed truly at ease during the evening let out, she now loves to play during the day as well. We play for about 2 hours per day to the point of panting. Of course she still goes to the porch door and let's out a sad meow here and there but for the most part she quickly comes back into the living room to play and roll around. She's become very snuggly too and is overall adjusting quite well. Sight visits with Catsby are also going great! No hissing, no growling. They eat a couple feed away from the gate without a blanket and afterwards he sits patiently for her to come sniff. However, what I've noticed is that during her let outs, if I don't play with her she reverts back to pacing and meowing. I love playing with her but I also want her to get used to just hanging out while I do work (I am SO behind on my work as a result). Should I just let her do her thing from time to time?
 

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The last few days have been going really well but it's time for some new advice regarding Oskar. She comes out at least 3x per day and while she previously only seemed truly at ease during the evening let out, she now loves to play during the day as well. We play for about 2 hours per day to the point of panting. Of course she still goes to the porch door and let's out a sad meow here and there but for the most part she quickly comes back into the living room to play and roll around. She's become very snuggly too and is overall adjusting quite well. Sight visits with Catsby are also going great! No hissing, no growling. They eat a couple feed away from the gate without a blanket and afterwards he sits patiently for her to come sniff. However, what I've noticed is that during her let outs, if I don't play with her she reverts back to pacing and meowing. I love playing with her but I also want her to get used to just hanging out while I do work (I am SO behind on my work as a result). Should I just let her do her thing from time to time?
I am so glad things are going to well.  She definitely is settling in.  As for playing with her, one tip is that after a play session, offer her a small meal or special snack.  This is part of the hunt, catch, kill, eat, groom, sleep philosophy from Jackson Galaxy.  You play with the cat so they can hunt, catch and kill.  Next you offer some special to satisfy the eat.  The cat may then groom him/herself and then take a nap.  You can offer a meal after playing or just a small snack.  Then let her go about her business.  You might have some interactive toys that she can play with herself.  Just tell she that she is now an indoor kitty and that she will always be safe.  Then just let her be.  If she seems agitated and paces, you might try taking her back to her room and see if she relaxes there.  She might be too overwhelmed with the larger space.  Just try a few things and see how she reacts.  She definitely needs to learn to have "chill" time.
 
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I am so glad things are going to well.  She definitely is settling in.  As for playing with her, one tip is that after a play session, offer her a small meal or special snack.  This is part of the hunt, catch, kill, eat, groom, sleep philosophy from Jackson Galaxy.  You play with the cat so they can hunt, catch and kill.  Next you offer some special to satisfy the eat.  The cat may then groom him/herself and then take a nap.  You can offer a meal after playing or just a small snack.  Then let her go about her business.  You might have some interactive toys that she can play with herself.  Just tell she that she is now an indoor kitty and that she will always be safe.  Then just let her be.  If she seems agitated and paces, you might try taking her back to her room and see if she relaxes there.  She might be too overwhelmed with the larger space.  Just try a few things and see how she reacts.  She definitely needs to learn to have "chill" time.
She does the same thing in her room. Very happy outgoing kitty as long as I interact with her, whether play or snuggling. As soon as I stop she starts meowing and pacing. I have one toy the cats can play by themselves but she's already bored of it (the ball thingy that goes around in circles). Any good interactive toys you'd recommend? I mean I get it. She's in her room for 20h per day so she just has so much energy and is super excited to play. But for instance right now I am SO exhausted but I have to do another let out before bed, which would be fine if I could relax. I will definitely try offering treats during play sessions in hopes that will help her chill a bit.
 

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Have you tried any catnip toys?  Also small toy mice.  Does she have a perch to look outside?  Maybe you can put a birdfeeder by her window for some entertainment.

I assume that while she is playing with you, it takes her mind off of being confused.  Once left to her own devices, she doesn't know what to do.  Maybe pick her up and try to place her next to yo u or on your lap.  Also what about brushing her?  She might like that and find it calming. 

Also when you give her special treats, but sure it is at the end of the session.  This will signify that play time is over as well as satisfy her from her play session.  Giving them throughout the session may just rev her up. 
 
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She's got it all. Catnip (she loves the Goodnip Mice Dream), perch, bird feeder outside (tho those silly bird still need to realize there is on) etc. She's not really into balls or toy mice but likes being brushed for a minute to so. I just ordered some barttery operated toys that should come tomorrow. Let's she what she thinks about those. As for picking her up, that's still a no go. Ive also been unsuccessful that luring her up onto the cat tree that's by a window or o to a couch that's by a window. She literally doesn't jump up on anything when she's let out. In her room she does tho.
 
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Hi there!
I ran into 2 questions on my journey to helping Oskar adjust:

1. Sight visits are going very very well even with my other cat now included. All 3 eat up their food without any problems on each side of the gates and occasionally come and sniff each other without hissing or any other sign of being upset. However, Oskar is not really interested in my other 2 cats, while they wait eagerly at the gate for her to stop by. Back when I did this with introducing Catsby to Uszka, I actually waited until I saw play behaviors from both, which may have been overkill but I wanted to be safe. I realize that that may never happen with Oskar so now I wonder when do I know it would be safe to try a gate-less intro with one of my cats (probably Catsby first). I worry about Catsby wanting to interact with her while she is not really interested, which may end in a fight due to him "annoying" her. He's a true sweetheart but my other cat is a push-over and he never learned to just leave someone alone.

2. Oskar doesn't jump on anything when let out. Not on the couch, not the chairs by the porch window, not the cat tree. I think she would feel less agitated with vertical space but I'm having a hard time showing her. I can't pick her up and most of my toys/treat attempts to coax her up have been unsuccessful? She DOES have very short legs (kinda like a Munchkin but not as short) and I've seen her fall off when trying to jump on the bed in her room, so maybe that's it? I just got her a not-so-high cat tree with lower levels to jump on and then work herself up to the top, which will come tomorrow and be in her room to absorb her scent. Then in a couple weeks I'll try base camp expansion with that. Any other suggestions?
 

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Hi there!
I ran into 2 questions on my journey to helping Oskar adjust:

1. Sight visits are going very very well even with my other cat now included. All 3 eat up their food without any problems on each side of the gates and occasionally come and sniff each other without hissing or any other sign of being upset. However, Oskar is not really interested in my other 2 cats, while they wait eagerly at the gate for her to stop by. Back when I did this with introducing Catsby to Uszka, I actually waited until I saw play behaviors from both, which may have been overkill but I wanted to be safe. I realize that that may never happen with Oskar so now I wonder when do I know it would be safe to try a gate-less intro with one of my cats (probably Catsby first). I worry about Catsby wanting to interact with her while she is not really interested, which may end in a fight due to him "annoying" her. He's a true sweetheart but my other cat is a push-over and he never learned to just leave someone alone.

2. Oskar doesn't jump on anything when let out. Not on the couch, not the chairs by the porch window, not the cat tree. I think she would feel less agitated with vertical space but I'm having a hard time showing her. I can't pick her up and most of my toys/treat attempts to coax her up have been unsuccessful? She DOES have very short legs (kinda like a Munchkin but not as short) and I've seen her fall off when trying to jump on the bed in her room, so maybe that's it? I just got her a not-so-high cat tree with lower levels to jump on and then work herself up to the top, which will come tomorrow and be in her room to absorb her scent. Then in a couple weeks I'll try base camp expansion with that. Any other suggestions?
You can always try allowing Catsby to see Oskar.  Just be close by.  If things get out of hand, just usher Catsby calmly out of the room and you will know it is too soon.  It doesn't hurt to try.  Maybe once Oskar realizes Catsby wants to be friends, she will feel more at ease.

As for Oskar not jumping, my boy Marvin who I brought inside also rarely jumps.  He has short legs too and is just not confident in jumping.  Some cats are just not jumpers.  Jackson Galaxy says that there are bush dwellers and tree dwellers.  It is good to have cats that are both.  My Marvin prefers to hide in low spots while my other inside cat is definitely a tree dweller.  He loves it up high.  What are your other two cats?  It helps to have a mixture.  Oskar may never want to get up on furniture.  My Marvin will now occasionally get up on our couch and bed, but nothing any higher.  He would never get on the counter or one of the higher cat trees.  I have bought low (about 30") cat trees for him.  We call them apartments!  He is very happy having one low to the ground, but it took a good many months for him to learn it was ok to get on them.  Some catnip helped!
 
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You can always try allowing Catsby to see Oskar.  Just be close by.  If things get out of hand, just usher Catsby calmly out of the room and you will know it is too soon.  It doesn't hurt to try.  Maybe once Oskar realizes Catsby wants to be friends, she will feel more at ease.

As for Oskar not jumping, my boy Marvin who I brought inside also rarely jumps.  He has short legs too and is just not confident in jumping.  Some cats are just not jumpers.  Jackson Galaxy says that there are bush dwellers and tree dwellers.  It is good to have cats that are both.  My Marvin prefers to hide in low spots while my other inside cat is definitely a tree dweller.  He loves it up high.  What are your other two cats?  It helps to have a mixture.  Oskar may never want to get up on furniture.  My Marvin will now occasionally get up on our couch and bed, but nothing any higher.  He would never get on the counter or one of the higher cat trees.  I have bought low (about 30") cat trees for him.  We call them apartments!  He is very happy having one low to the ground, but it took a good many months for him to learn it was ok to get on them.  Some catnip helped!
Hi ShadowsRescue! Thanks so much for your support through this difficult time. You're a godsend!

So I think maybe gate-less intro with Catsby may not be a good idea yet. I've been doing 2-4 sight visits a day (always in conjunction with food) and everything is fine while their eat but I now have observed some hissing. While Catbsy is still the love nugget he is waiting at the gate for her to come close, when Oskar did the last 2 times, she hissed at him. I assume as long as there is hissing, it's not a good idea, right?

On a side note, Oskar loves her new low cat tree :)

 
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