Black kitten no longer black. Smoke?

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One of my kittens, Archie, was born completely sleek, silky and jet black. However, today at 17 days old he's gotten fluffy and started to show smoky shading around his eyes, mouth, chest and paws. Is this a normal development for a solid black coat or could he end up smoked or shaded or bi-coloured? In the litter we also have a golden ticked tabby and a blue ticked tabby, so there's strong fancy colouring in his genes. Just curious! Would also be useful to be able to accurately describe what he is when describing him to his potential new owner.

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This is the other boy of the litter, you can see his tabby face and ticked fur!

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I've sent plenty photos :) I just want to be able to give an accurate description of his coat type. She originally picked him out because he appeared a solid black but now I don't know what he is, haha. I'm also really curious because he seems to be getting more grey by the day and it's really strange!
 
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redbowlingball said:
 
I've sent plenty photos :) I just want to be able to give an accurate description of his coat type. She originally picked him out because he appeared a solid black but now I don't know what he is, haha. I'm also really curious because he seems to be getting more grey by the day and it's really strange!
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Im baffled me too, thais is why I hadnt answered earlier.   At this moment he seemst to be smoke, as you yourself suggested.

But when you say he seems to become gray and that is strange -  Im not sure this is THAT strange:  a littermate seems to be grey and white.

So the dilutation gene is in the batch - and may possibly be with him too.   This would mean, it comes into action first now.  I wasnt aware this is possible, but but but.

These of us whom live long enough will see!

Another kitten seems to be a ticked tabby, you say.  Do I see right, is the mom a ticked tabby?   At least one of the parents should be - ticked tabby is dominant.
 
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The mum is a ticked tabby, this is Skye - 

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Skye's own mother, Bonny, was a ticked tabby too. This is her as a kitten and adult -

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So our other boy, Ruaidh, is a throwback to his grandma, but he seems to have stronger markings on his face, paws and tail.

Here's the rest of the litter, if it helps!

Our little blue and white girl, Bonnie. She is odd - blue and white patches, tabby face and tabby stripes on her blue patches.

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This is Ruaidh, the golden ticked tabby. Such a heartbreaker.

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This is Merida, our blue and white bicolour girl.

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And this is Isla, who is the spitting image of Skye, a blue ticked tabby.

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I love them all so much, I don't want to give any of them up, haha. 
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You know what?   It struck my he is possibly not going to be a smoke, nor even diluted - ie blue.   He is perhaps going to become tuxedo, ie getting white spots going...

White spots showing up very late sounds more probable than dilutation gene showing up late.

Anyways, we will see. The only problem is if you had already promised them to new owners, and the new owner insists on blackies.

The mommies seems to be purebred scottish fold?

So perhaps also the kittens?
 
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You know what?   It struck my he is possibly not going to be a smoke, nor even diluted - ie blue.   He is perhaps going to become tuxedo, ie getting white spots going...

White spots showing up very late sounds more probable than dilutation gene showing up late.

Anyways, we will see. The only problem is if you had already promised them to new owners, and the new owner insists on blackies.

The mommies seems to be purebred scottish fold?

So perhaps also the kittens?
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That may also be a possibility! This is exciting! I'll update as time goes on :) I'm planning on keeping one of the litter but haven't decided which one yet, so I may end up keeping him. The person who was interested in him also loves Ruaidh and understands that I've yet to make my choice of the litter, so it will work out.

Skye is a Scottish Fold and the kittens dad was a lovely Ragdoll, so some kittens may turn out to be folds and some may not. Hopefully I'll know this week or next! Either way I'm currently beating off potential owners with a stick, haha. I don't want to promise any kittens until I've chosen my little keeper (or two).
 
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I managed to get another photo. This will be easier once they're a bit bigger! You can see where the colour change is happening, around his chest and down over his belly. I think it's paler when I part the fur but can't quite tell if the white hair is separate from the black or if the ends are tipped with black.

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I suddenly got to think on a fever coat.  But as I know, they  are born with fever coats, who disappear with time.  They dont get fever coats later on. Especielly not without any fever raging...

But you saw the parallell thread?  Where a black kitten suddenly got a long white "scar"  across the whole skull...

The littermate has a funny  Mohawk on the head.  :)
 
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The other kitten looks to have "silver" characteristics so your black may well be a smoke (they are the result of the same gene).  It's hard to tell at this age though.
 
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Gorgeous babies [emoji]128525[/emoji][emoji]128149[/emoji]
 
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Those paw pads don't look blackest black to me, so he may be a smoke. Mingo has decidedly black paw pads, and there's not a white or gray hair on him.
 
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They are so adorable!  Unusual mix, Ragdoll and Scottish Fold.  It reminds me of when we had accidental ABYLAYANS, when my himalayan female was taken to a show by someone else who was showing abyssinians and I guess some hanky panky happened in the motel room.  I was not expecting this, thinking she had been bred by my himmy male, but when they were born, there was no doubt about it, a whole litter of little pet Abylayans.
 
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The Abylayans looked a lot like your ticked tabby kitten above in the picture with your black smoke.  The had short hair, ticked coats, and the only major change was that they didn't have the deep reddish tone of their Aby father, instead they were muted and wild looking.  Very sweet dispositions.  I adopted them all to friends.
 
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