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Hello,
A short history...(ignore if you like but helps get a better insight in the problems Im facing)
In april 2015 a mother cat came to our place with 4 little kittens, about 1 month old each. We decided to feed them cause we thought they were going to starve. 2 of them disappeared with their mother and are completely feral, they pass by sometimes but the other 2 we kept feeding, taking inside during day, petting etc, so they are not 100% feral I guess.
In february of this year one of them disappeared, the other went into heat in front of our eyes. We caught her having intercourse but she didn't get pregnant. Because of other health issues, we realized she is naturally sterile. This is not her only issue (she is blind in one eye and hasnt grown enough) so we are going to take her to the vet this month and see what can be done. We cannot take her in anymore, she goes into heat, fails to get pregnant and goes into heat again, been doing this since february so soon as we manage to catch her she's going to the vet. She only eats and runs away. Poor kitty.
The other who disappeared came back and only 1 week before birth we realized she was pregnant. She gave birth inside our house, and because other cats, especially males tried to take her babies twice (they came inside, one even grabbed a baby with his mouth but I managed to pick him up and take him out without the baby), we decided to keep her in. We bought her a litter box and other equipment. She is staying in the corridor at the moment with her kitties, cause we have no spare rooms and we do not feel confident to sleep with her having access to our beds, yet. Whenever she has to go and do her business she asks us to open the door, goes somewhere and comes back 10 to 15 minutes after. She only used the litterbox thrice. Her kittens are 11 days old, so only used it thrice in 11 days.
The problem today...(do you think she's in heat from the below symptoms? And can I get her spayed if she is nursing + in heat if she is?)
Today when I opened the door for her to go out I felt some strong cat smell. She came back a bit late, like 40 minutes after going out. Then 1 hour later she asked to go out again, went out and inspected the terrain. Then I lured her in with food and closed the door but she is not eating, not even tuna. Less than an hour ago she asked to go out again, this time rubbing against me, her eye pupils are inflated more than usually, and she sits like she usually doesnt and raises her back a bit when being pet, I think she is in heat again, but she is not calling for males like I've seen the other cat doing when she was in heat. She is still nursing the babies though. I did call a vet (first time ever, never thought the day would come) and he said he can't do anything until the kittens are weaned. And if she is in heat, I am going to have serious trouble with her. Should I lock her in the bathroom with her kittens and food when we go to work? Her litterbox is already there. There is a high chance she is going to escape when we open the door if we don't lock her somewhere. This is way too stressful. How long should I expect this potential heat to last (if she is in it)? And now that she has used the litter box thrice, can I expect her to keep using it? The main problem is when she can't go out she will hold it until she no longer can then use the litter box, I don't know why. The vet told me the litter I was purchasing was the best sand for a cat in training cause it has no scent, and it really does look like real dirt. It actually is almost dirt. She hasn't done her business for 8 hours now but because of the heat symptoms we are not letting her out. Maybe she isnt in heat, but idk how to check for sure. I don't want to find out like last time. I hope she will use the litter box soon.
The future...
Our initial plan was to adopt the 2 sisters (nursing cat and her sister), but now we have 3 new kittens in our hands. Found a home for 1 of the babies, and still got 2 that need a home. I've contacted 7 animal shelters, nobody could do anything - they have the same problems as we do. Should I spay the mother when the time comes and let her live outside like she used to until 11 days ago and only feed her when she comes, so in short let her live with her sister outside and adopt her 2 kittens? What would you do in this scenario?
I live in a small country in eastern Europe and pets are not loved here sadly. And it's not like we have a lot of money to spend for them, so my choices are limited. It is the main reason why these cats have never been to the vet, we have finally decided to pay for her spaying then we will see, but she is making it hard by going to heat this soon. I expected her not to at least until mid june...I hope she isn't in heat, I don't know what I would do with another 3-4 kittens.
Thanks in advance, sorry for the long post. The cute cats I used to feed are making my head hurt from excess stress now, and I believe it's not worth it. That's why I'm asking for advice. Thank you.
A short history...(ignore if you like but helps get a better insight in the problems Im facing)
In april 2015 a mother cat came to our place with 4 little kittens, about 1 month old each. We decided to feed them cause we thought they were going to starve. 2 of them disappeared with their mother and are completely feral, they pass by sometimes but the other 2 we kept feeding, taking inside during day, petting etc, so they are not 100% feral I guess.
In february of this year one of them disappeared, the other went into heat in front of our eyes. We caught her having intercourse but she didn't get pregnant. Because of other health issues, we realized she is naturally sterile. This is not her only issue (she is blind in one eye and hasnt grown enough) so we are going to take her to the vet this month and see what can be done. We cannot take her in anymore, she goes into heat, fails to get pregnant and goes into heat again, been doing this since february so soon as we manage to catch her she's going to the vet. She only eats and runs away. Poor kitty.
The other who disappeared came back and only 1 week before birth we realized she was pregnant. She gave birth inside our house, and because other cats, especially males tried to take her babies twice (they came inside, one even grabbed a baby with his mouth but I managed to pick him up and take him out without the baby), we decided to keep her in. We bought her a litter box and other equipment. She is staying in the corridor at the moment with her kitties, cause we have no spare rooms and we do not feel confident to sleep with her having access to our beds, yet. Whenever she has to go and do her business she asks us to open the door, goes somewhere and comes back 10 to 15 minutes after. She only used the litterbox thrice. Her kittens are 11 days old, so only used it thrice in 11 days.
The problem today...(do you think she's in heat from the below symptoms? And can I get her spayed if she is nursing + in heat if she is?)
Today when I opened the door for her to go out I felt some strong cat smell. She came back a bit late, like 40 minutes after going out. Then 1 hour later she asked to go out again, went out and inspected the terrain. Then I lured her in with food and closed the door but she is not eating, not even tuna. Less than an hour ago she asked to go out again, this time rubbing against me, her eye pupils are inflated more than usually, and she sits like she usually doesnt and raises her back a bit when being pet, I think she is in heat again, but she is not calling for males like I've seen the other cat doing when she was in heat. She is still nursing the babies though. I did call a vet (first time ever, never thought the day would come) and he said he can't do anything until the kittens are weaned. And if she is in heat, I am going to have serious trouble with her. Should I lock her in the bathroom with her kittens and food when we go to work? Her litterbox is already there. There is a high chance she is going to escape when we open the door if we don't lock her somewhere. This is way too stressful. How long should I expect this potential heat to last (if she is in it)? And now that she has used the litter box thrice, can I expect her to keep using it? The main problem is when she can't go out she will hold it until she no longer can then use the litter box, I don't know why. The vet told me the litter I was purchasing was the best sand for a cat in training cause it has no scent, and it really does look like real dirt. It actually is almost dirt. She hasn't done her business for 8 hours now but because of the heat symptoms we are not letting her out. Maybe she isnt in heat, but idk how to check for sure. I don't want to find out like last time. I hope she will use the litter box soon.
The future...
Our initial plan was to adopt the 2 sisters (nursing cat and her sister), but now we have 3 new kittens in our hands. Found a home for 1 of the babies, and still got 2 that need a home. I've contacted 7 animal shelters, nobody could do anything - they have the same problems as we do. Should I spay the mother when the time comes and let her live outside like she used to until 11 days ago and only feed her when she comes, so in short let her live with her sister outside and adopt her 2 kittens? What would you do in this scenario?
I live in a small country in eastern Europe and pets are not loved here sadly. And it's not like we have a lot of money to spend for them, so my choices are limited. It is the main reason why these cats have never been to the vet, we have finally decided to pay for her spaying then we will see, but she is making it hard by going to heat this soon. I expected her not to at least until mid june...I hope she isn't in heat, I don't know what I would do with another 3-4 kittens.
Thanks in advance, sorry for the long post. The cute cats I used to feed are making my head hurt from excess stress now, and I believe it's not worth it. That's why I'm asking for advice. Thank you.