Emergency! Sick kitten! Cannot see a Vet!

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And I'm not sure if I mentioned it above, but her tongue is now 100% okay! I checked it this morning and it's back to normal (no white or red bits), so I'm stopping the homeopathic medicine :-) I will give her a rest from medicine today, and start the amoxicillin tomorrow! We'll need a new syringe too, because the other one got broken :-( It's a 1cc syringe so it should be easy to measure out the dose. Could I mix the dose of the suspension into some of her soup and feed it to her that way? Or won't it work? If I get the capsule I'll sprinkle some onto her chicken and feed it to her in the morning (she's more hungry in the morning and eats p much everything I give her!). Or would it be better if I give her her food and then after that give her a squirt of the suspension? Would it irritate her throat/mouth?
Please don't delay on starting the antibiotics. Your kitten is very sick and needs treatment.
 
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I'm not delaying anything, I was asking about the correct dosage so I don't over-dose her. Mum is the one who's didn't get the medicine yesterday, I can't really buy the myself (if it had been my choice she would have been on them the moment I heard that she had an URI). Thankfully Mum's gone to get the antibiotics now, though she's going to be getting the capsule form, more than likely -- she doesn't want to waste the suspension :-/

Will what I said earlier work? We're going to dilute the capsule so that 0.2ml contains 4mg of the antibiotic. Would this work?
 

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I think dissolving the capsules like that is less precise than using the suspension. But if you shake it well before each use it should be OK. I've done it before. I think it tastes really bad though. The suspension is usually flavored.
 

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I'm not delaying anything, I was asking about the correct dosage so I don't over-dose her. Mum is the one who's didn't get the medicine yesterday, I can't really buy the myself (if it had been my choice she would have been on them the moment I heard that she had an URI). Thankfully Mum's gone to get the antibiotics now, though she's going to be getting the capsule form, more than likely -- she doesn't want to waste the suspension :-/

Will what I said earlier work? We're going to dilute the capsule so that 0.2ml contains 4mg of the antibiotic. Would this work?
It doesn't sound like enough liquid to dissolve the powder.  I think she could take 1 ml.  I used to crush Nat's phenobarb pill and then sprinkle it onto a clean sheet of paper folded in the middle.  I put the powder in the fold so I could more easily pour it into the syringe.  It's not the most accurate way to do things, but in your case it'll have to do.  
 

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Okay thanks for the information.

This kitten is pretty sick actually, I do see inner lid showing in the pic also.

Anemia is only helped with a blood transfusion which surely is out of the question, or time, allowing time while getting good nutrition for his cells to rebuild themselves.

I suspect with the URI and mouth ulcer that he has calicivirus, which easily turns into pneumonia and pneumonia can kill a kitten, he def needs antibiotics ASAP started.

TWICE  a day, it lasts 12 hours so as close to dosing every 12 hours as possible.

When dosing, try to get it as far back in the throat as possible, less taste means less fighting it, spitting it out, etc. All the drama!

The black tarry poop is very concerning......please post pic.

Tarry black poop may be blood, that is how it looks.

No fleas makes me question why the anemia, which could be due to internal bleeding.

Gosh this kitten needs a good vet!..........

Antibiotics and good nutrition are critical, I highly suggest high calorie, high protein, grain free canned cat food.
 

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I'm not delaying anything, I was asking about the correct dosage so I don't over-dose her. Mum is the one who's didn't get the medicine yesterday, I can't really buy the myself (if it had been my choice she would have been on them the moment I heard that she had an URI). Thankfully Mum's gone to get the antibiotics now, though she's going to be getting the capsule form, more than likely -- she doesn't want to waste the suspension :-/

Will what I said earlier work? We're going to dilute the capsule so that 0.2ml contains 4mg of the antibiotic. Would this work?
You said you were going to start the antibiotics tomorrow to give her a break. Are you able to start today?
 
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Also, out of curiosity, what makes you say that he has anemia? Is there any way I can check that his anemia is getting better? He's rather active, still purrs and walks around and mewls at the door because he wants to see my other cats. He isn't running around or actively playing though. He only has interest in snuggles and having his stomach rubbed. And his gums and tongue are pink and moist, aren't anemic cats gums/tongue white? Also could the anemia be nutritional, seeing as he hasn't been eating for roughly 3 days before I got him? Sorry for all the questions omg

Also, regarding the cat food, we can't get canned over here, it's extremely rare. I'm feeding him chicken breast, chicken heads (he loves eating the tongues??), liver, kidneys, lungs and buffalo's milk. I tried him on kibble but he doesn't seem to realise that it's food.
 
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It doesn't sound like enough liquid to dissolve the powder.  I think she could take 1 ml.  I used to crush Nat's phenobarb pill and then sprinkle it onto a clean sheet of paper folded in the middle.  I put the powder in the fold so I could more easily pour it into the syringe.  It's not the most accurate way to do things, but in your case it'll have to do.  
Yes, it wasn't enough! I had to use 12ml to dissolve the 250mg capsule. It dissolved after about 5 minutes of stirring. It kind of looked like milk once I was done? Very white and smelt kind of? Idk, sweet? She didn't seem to mind it, though, and took it like a pro. I gave it to her mixed with soup and let her have some soup on her own, afterwards.

Oh and I forgot to ask but how long does it take for the antibiotics to kick in? Will I see an improvement straight away or?
 
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Also, I have some pictures!

These were from yesterday and the day before yesterday!








And these are some from today (after one dose of antibiotics, the next one is due tonight! Also excuse the blob on his nose, that's his snot. It's more yellowy in real life, I have no idea what the camera did to it)






 

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He looks better and better.   Apparently still weak and sick, no running around 10 weeks kittens. But the overall looks arent as desperate now.  Tx to your good care!

He has a funny looks.  Alike the friendly dragon in The NeverEnding Story...

Prob he will be a look alike to a semilonghaired Oriental.   Although I suspect most cats looks so in the countrywhere you are.  Most shorthairs of course.
 
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He looks better and better.   Apparently still weak and sick, no running around 10 weeks kittens. But the overall looks arent as desperate now.  Tx to your good care!

He has a funny looks.  Alike the friendly dragon in The NeverEnding Story...

Prob he will be a look alike to a semilonghaired Oriental.   Although I suspect most cats looks so in the countrywhere you are.  Most shorthairs of course.
Yes! I'm very pleased with how much he's improved, even if it is only a little :-) His fur is starting to get smoother too, I've found a brush that I'm using to get rid of some of his loose hairs.

Omg I just had to google it, and he does look like that dragon, doesn't he! He even has a strange 'smile' that he does, I'll try and catch a picture of it, it's so cute!! And yes most of the cats look like that over here. My Indie has very large eyes and a very defined jaw and long neck, as well as very 'noodly' legs. It's like he's in the awkward teenager stage of his life!

Also, the scabs have all fallen off! As far as I can see there is still white gloopy stuff in her ear but I'm just going to let it be. I'm also stopping her from scratching at it whenever she tries to. Fingers crossed the antibiotics start kicking in soon!

Also she still hasn't pooped! Would it be alright if I soak her rear end in warm water to see if that helps her go?
 

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Hi from over here in America! I read through your whole thread and wanted to wish you well! I definitely think your kitten needs antibiotics for the ear infection, but it probably won't have an effect on the URI. Most URIs are caused by viruses and antibiotics have no effect on viruses. I have nursed three of my adult cats through URIs at home. I gave them some Pulsatilla in their food just to help them feel better along with some Lysine treats. The thing with URIs is, you have to watch that the infection doesn't cause pneumonia, as that is what is really serious and this is why antibiotics are sometimes given (and as he is a kitten it's probably best and he needs it for his ears as well anyways.)  What I did was put my head on their tummies to listen to their lungs. If the URI recurs when he is older, antibiotics probably won't be necessary, but he also shouldn't be as sick as the first time.

Also, amoxicillin can have side effects including nausea, not eating, vomiting, and diarrhea. Hopefully he won't have any, but you might have to syringe feed him if he does. I had to do this with one of my kitties a little while ago. My kitty also had some constipation and I used Miralax which is Polyethylene glycol 3350. I don't know if you have it in Pakistan, but maybe keep it in mind if he still hasn't gone.

Good luck with him and your school work and tests as well, hope he's all better very soon
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Yes! I'm very pleased with how much he's improved, even if it is only a little :-) His fur is starting to get smoother too, I've found a brush that I'm using to get rid of some of his loose hairs.

Omg I just had to google it, and he does look like that dragon, doesn't he! He even has a strange 'smile' that he does, I'll try and catch a picture of it, it's so cute!! And yes most of the cats look like that over here. My Indie has very large eyes and a very defined jaw and long neck, as well as very 'noodly' legs. It's like he's in the awkward teenager stage of his life!

Also, the scabs have all fallen off! As far as I can see there is still white gloopy stuff in her ear but I'm just going to let it be. I'm also stopping her from scratching at it whenever she tries to. Fingers crossed the antibiotics start kicking in soon!

Also she still hasn't pooped! Would it be alright if I soak her rear end in warm water to see if that helps her go?
Yes, its a good idea.  In fact, there are several tricks to help stimulate, with submergint the end part and tummy in warm (but not hot ) water.   Also, tap her with your foreginger while you do it.

Just be sure she doesnt get chilled, no draugh, warm and cozy, perhaps even a heat pad,  and dry off.

I will NOW go to a little short leave, I dont know If I have access to internet there.  Im back next tuesday.   But all the others are here.  :)
 
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Hi from over here in America! I read through your whole thread and wanted to wish you well! I definitely think your kitten needs antibiotics for the ear infection, but it probably won't have an effect on the URI. Most URIs are caused by viruses and antibiotics have no effect on viruses. I have nursed three of my adult cats through URIs at home. I gave them some Pulsatilla in their food just to help them feel better along with some Lysine treats. The thing with URIs is, you have to watch that the infection doesn't cause pneumonia, as that is what is really serious and this is why antibiotics are sometimes given (and as he is a kitten it's probably best and he needs it for his ears as well anyways.)  What I did was put my head on their tummies to listen to their lungs. If the URI recurs when he is older, antibiotics probably won't be necessary, but he also shouldn't be as sick as the first time.

Also, amoxicillin can have side effects including nausea, not eating, vomiting, and diarrhea. Hopefully he won't have any, but you might have to syringe feed him if he does. I had to do this with one of my kitties a little while ago. My kitty also had some constipation and I used Miralax which is Polyethylene glycol 3350. I don't know if you have it in Pakistan, but maybe keep it in mind if he still hasn't gone.

Good luck with him and your school work and tests as well, hope he's all better very soon
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Hello! The only improvement I've seen so far with the ears is that all his scabs have fallen off, but then again I've only given him one dose so far! The white pus-stuff is still there unfortunately, but it's less than when I last saw it without the scabs (about two days ago) Could it be his body is naturally healing itself as well? I will still keep giving him the antibiotics to help him get better!

I've heard of Lysine, I'll see if I can get some, though I doubt it, Mum couldn't seem to find any when she last went to the medical store.

And about checking his chest for breathing, I actually have a proper doctor's stethoscope that Mum got me a while back so I used that! His chest isn't wheezing at all, thank God! He's only sneezing and has yellowy/green snot? I'm not sure if yellow/green snot is a sign of a bacterial infection, but I THINK I read somewhere that it is?

I will keep Miralax in mind! I'll first soak her in warm water and see if that works, if not I'll see if I can find some constipation medicine that is alright for cats :-)

And thankyou! My exams are in roughly two weeks now :-) I'm hoping to become a vet once they're out of the way!
 
Yes, its a good idea.  In fact, there are several tricks to help stimulate, with submergint the end part and tummy in warm (but not hot ) water.   Also, tap her with your foreginger while you do it.

Just be sure she doesnt get chilled, no draugh, warm and cozy, perhaps even a heat pad,  and dry off.

I will NOW go to a little short leave, I dont know If I have access to internet there.  Im back next tuesday.   But all the others are here.  :)
Oh yes regarding warmth how would I go about making a rice-sock? Would I just put rice in a sock and put it in the microwave? How long do they normally stay warm for? I will do the soaking thing tonight once I come back from tuition if he still hasn't gone by then!

Also he's peeing about every 2-4 hours, is this normal? He is drinking A LOT of the soup because he is only about 90% okay with eating the chicken (he gets full with 2 pieces then laps up lots of his soup). His pee is also very light, so I'm guessing he's not dehydrated and that I shouldn't be worrying too much about his pee?
 
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Okay so I soaked her bottom in water and still no poops! :-( Her stomach is nice and soft though and there's no prominent lumps, so could it just be because she hasn't really had much solids and her body's taking the time to digest it?

Another thing, I spotted this black 'gunky stuff around her back paws. What could this be and how should I go about removing it? It seems to be stuck rather firmly to to the base of her fur!

 

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Have you given her any water to drink? Cats like water.
Has she washed herself? It doesn't look like she has.
Good luck with your A levels. What university do you want to go to?
 

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I'm guessing you've already done this but I just have to ask.  Have you stimulated her to go poo with a warm wet cotton ball?  She's not eating much but still she must go.  She may need a sliver of pediatric glycerine suppository to help her go.  Also is she eating real cat food now?  I don't think she'll get completely better if she doesn't.  
 

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Hello! The only improvement I've seen so far with the ears is that all his scabs have fallen off, but then again I've only given him one dose so far! The white pus-stuff is still there unfortunately, but it's less than when I last saw it without the scabs (about two days ago) Could it be his body is naturally healing itself as well? I will still keep giving him the antibiotics to help him get better!

I've heard of Lysine, I'll see if I can get some, though I doubt it, Mum couldn't seem to find any when she last went to the medical store.

And about checking his chest for breathing, I actually have a proper doctor's stethoscope that Mum got me a while back so I used that! His chest isn't wheezing at all, thank God! He's only sneezing and has yellowy/green snot? I'm not sure if yellow/green snot is a sign of a bacterial infection, but I THINK I read somewhere that it is?

I will keep Miralax in mind! I'll first soak her in warm water and see if that works, if not I'll see if I can find some constipation medicine that is alright for cats :-)

And thankyou! My exams are in roughly two weeks now :-) I'm hoping to become a vet once they're out of the way!
Your welcome, wow,
I think you would be a fantastic vet! It's okay if you can't find Lysine, it just thought that it helps boost their immune systems to help prevent a possible recurrence of the URI. My kitties also had yellowish snot when sneezing, I don't know what the color of it means though. That's neat that you have an actual stethoscope. Just make sure he (is he a boy? or are you not sure yet? sometimes your say she
) gets his amoxicillin twice a day, my kitty recently got a course of it and needed to take it for two weeks. 

You could probably use baby wipes or a washcloth with a little soap to rub the gunk off his feet.
 
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Have you given her any water to drink? Cats like water.
Has she washed herself? It doesn't look like she has.
Good luck with your A levels. What university do you want to go to?
Yes! She has water to drink all the time, and I replace it every 24 hours or so, sometimes less if she spills it or drinks it so that she can't reach it anymore.

And she's JUST started to was herself, she's doing it right now as we speak!

Thankyou! And I'm hoping to get into Nottingham Vet, either that or Liverpool! I'll be doing zoology or psychology at Manchester if I don't get into vet school, but fingers-crossed I'll get the grades!
 
I'm guessing you've already done this but I just have to ask.  Have you stimulated her to go poo with a warm wet cotton ball?  She's not eating much but still she must go.  She may need a sliver of pediatric glycerine suppository to help her go.  Also is she eating real cat food now?  I don't think she'll get completely better if she doesn't.  
Yeah, I tried stimulating her the first few days she wasn't pooping. And oki I will look into seeing if I can find it over here! And no she isn't, she isn't even nibbling the kibble :-( I think she should be alright on the diet I'm feeding her now though, my other cats are striving on it!
 
Your welcome, wow,
I think you would be a fantastic vet! It's okay if you can't find Lysine, it just thought that it helps boost their immune systems to help prevent a possible recurrence of the URI. My kitties also had yellowish snot when sneezing, I don't know what the color of it means though. That's neat that you have an actual stethoscope. Just make sure he (is he a boy? or are you not sure yet? sometimes your say she
) gets his amoxicillin twice a day, my kitty recently got a course of it and needed to take it for two weeks. 

You could probably use baby wipes or a washcloth with a little soap to rub the gunk off his feet.
Thankyou! And we couldn't find Lysine, no :-(  I'll have to look into the snot-colour thing again, haha, I think it means the body's fighting an infection but I'm not too sure! And I'm not to sure on his/her sex lmao, I checked and I thinnnk it's a female, but his butt's a little too fluffy to see for certain. And yup I'm giving her it every 12 hours, her nose is starting to dry up too and her snot's a little less runny. She's also sneezing less and I think she can smell her food better because she's starting to eat more :-)

And okay I will do! :-)

Also she STILL hasn't done a poop yet :-( Mum's going to get her some MiraLAX today, I read up on the dosage and found that she needs 1/8 of a teaspoon every day? Would this interfere with her amoxicillin? If I give her amoxicillin in the morning should I give her the MiraLAX during her afternoon meal? Also how long would it take to see her poop? :-)
 

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Originally Posted by indie-n-button  

Thankyou! And we couldn't find Lysine, no :-(  I'll have to look into the snot-colour thing again, haha, I think it means the body's fighting an infection but I'm not too sure! And I'm not to sure on his/her sex lmao, I checked and I thinnnk it's a female, but his butt's a little too fluffy to see for certain. And yup I'm giving her it every 12 hours, her nose is starting to dry up too and her snot's a little less runny. She's also sneezing less and I think she can smell her food better because she's starting to eat more :-)

And okay I will do! :-)

Also she STILL hasn't done a poop yet :-( Mum's going to get her some MiraLAX today, I read up on the dosage and found that she needs 1/8 of a teaspoon every day? Would this interfere with her amoxicillin? If I give her amoxicillin in the morning should I give her the MiraLAX during her afternoon meal? Also how long would it take to see her poop? :-)
1/8th sounds good, my kitty went a few hours after I gave it to him. Then he threw up a little, which I read isn't uncommon from the straining. Then his poop got soft when I gave it to him the next day, so I stopped giving it to him. Nothing comes up during a search that says you shouldn't give Miralax and amoxicillin at the same time, but I always don't like to give so many meds at once. But, it's been a while since she went, so maybe give her the Miralax at least an hour after the amox if possible? Glad that her URI is getting better and that she's eating more
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