Please help!--kitten w/ recurring diarrhea.

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Hello, all! This is my first post here. 

I adopted two kittens on Feb. 12 who were born at the beginning of December. They had been with mom and siblings at a foster's for several weeks, but they'd come from an animal shelter before that. They were both fixed, given initial shots, and dewormed before I got them. Their names are Alfie and Beatrice—Alfie was the largest in the litter and Beatrice was the smallest. 

They've now been with me two months now and they have yet to have a solid bowel movement. They've never acted sick and they both enjoy eating (especially tiny Bea!) and playing. But I can't get the diarrhea under control.

In a nutshell, after they'd been with me for two weeks, Beatrice started leaking diarrhea. We went into the vet and they tested positive for coccidia. They both (and their 17 year old kitty sister Lucy) went on a round of Ponazuril. On followup coccidia was gone but Beatrice tested positive for tapeworms, so everyone got a dose of Profender. On the next visit fecal tests were clear but they were given a second dose of Profender to be safe and five days of Panacur because they still had diarrhea. That was two weeks ago. I've also been giving them Probiotics for two weeks now.

I feed the cats super high quality grain free wet food. Lucy (the 17 year old cat) will only eat dry food, so the kittens do get into her grain-free dry kibble. I've switch among brands (I use Weruva mostly) and this weekend I bought frozen raw food because I read that's great for intestinal problems, but they won't touch it. So I have mixed their food around a lot recently. 

Last night Beatrice left a spot of diarrhea on me for the first time in a while and she is now leaving her runny poo uncovered in the litterbox. The smell continues to be terrible. I don't know what to do. I have already spent a small fortune at the vet as well as on cat food. The vet said the next step would be a more sophisticated test to look at parasites and other GI problems (I think they've been doing flotation tests?) and that test on its own is $240. I'm between jobs and foolishly did not anticipate these long-running bills. The vet  wanted me to feed the kittens Prescription Diet kitten food, which I'm not doing because of grains in the ingredients. So, diet-wise I'm doing my own thing but neither my diet solutions or the vet's medications have stopped the problem. I feel like I am just throwing money I don't have out the window. 

It scares me that, although she's a feisty, rambunctious kitten, tiny Beatrice is the one having more problems. Yesterday she started sneezing and I'm now giving her L-Lysine, but I'm scared that I'm losing a battle for her health. I dropped off a Beatrice stool sample at the vet on Friday and it was negative, but then the diarrhea flared up again.

Anyway...I'm at a loss. I've tried everything and I don't know if I should just be patient or suck it up and go into the vet again. Any suggestions, comments, or insight are appreciated!
 
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@beth0612  , Hi & welcome to TCS. I'm sorry to hear your kitties are going through this. Your best bet would be to start your own thread on this, so you can get advice from others there.  I'm sure a mod can help you if you need help with that.   

On your kitties, I understand being between jobs & finances being limited because of this. I have been there in the past with kitty issues too. I also hate Rx food ingredients, & hate to use them. However, as the member who started this thread, & I have even been through w/ another issue. Sometimes, as much as we hate it, it's the only option to get them better & back to normal "for the time being." Sometimes, you just can't avoid it, & will be cheaper in the big picture to just go this route. as soon as things are normal for some time, & their systems are better, & calmed down for a while, THEN, you can wien back to a healthier food by slowly transitioning them.  I went through that w/ my past kitty for cystitis. In the end I HAD to do the Rx food. Then, after a year, I found a natural wet food that was made to be like a urinary formula, but natural, & he ate that for the rest of his life. ( I also ran it by his vet & showed her the ingredients first. We did an ultrasound a month later, & no crystals were found!) 
 

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Hello, all! This is my first post here and I'm apologize if I'm highjacking the thread but my problem is pretty identical to the original poster's, so I thought I'd post here.

I adopted two kittens on Feb. 12 who were born at the beginning of December. They had been with mom and siblings at a foster's for several weeks, but they'd come from an animal shelter before that. They were both fixed, given initial shots, and dewormed before I got them. Their names are Alfie and Beatrice—Alfie was the largest in the litter and Beatrice was the smallest. 

They've now been with me two months now and they have yet to have a solid bowel movement. They've never acted sick and they both enjoy eating (especially tiny Bea!) and playing. But I can't get the diarrhea under control.

In a nutshell, after they'd been with me for two weeks, Beatrice started leaking diarrhea. We went into the vet and they tested positive for coccidia. They both (and their 17 year old kitty sister Lucy) went on a round of Ponazuril. On followup coccidia was gone but Beatrice tested positive for tapeworms, so everyone got a dose of Profender. On the next visit fecal tests were clear but they were given a second dose of Profender to be safe and five days of Panacur because they still had diarrhea. That was two weeks ago. I've also been giving them Probiotics for two weeks now.

I feed the cats super high quality grain free wet food. Lucy (the 17 year old cat) will only eat dry food, so the kittens do get into her grain-free dry kibble. I've switch among brands (I use Weruva mostly) and this weekend I bought frozen raw food because I read that's great for intestinal problems, but they won't touch it. So I have mixed their food around a lot recently. 

Last night Beatrice left a spot of diarrhea on me for the first time in a while and she is now leaving her runny poo uncovered in the litterbox. The smell continues to be terrible. I don't know what to do. I have already spent a small fortune at the vet as well as on cat food. The vet said the next step would be a more sophisticated test to look at parasites and other GI problems (I think they've been doing flotation tests?) and that test on its own is $240. I'm between jobs and foolishly did not anticipate these long-running bills. The vet  wanted me to feed the kittens Prescription Diet kitten food, which I'm not doing because of grains in the ingredients. So, diet-wise I'm doing my own thing but neither my diet solutions or the vet's medications have stopped the problem. I feel like I am just throwing money I don't have out the window. 

It scares me that, although she's a feisty, rambunctious kitten, tiny Beatrice is the one having more problems. Yesterday she started sneezing and I'm now giving her L-Lysine, but I'm scared that I'm losing a battle for her health. I dropped off a Beatrice stool sample at the vet on Friday and it was negative, but then the diarrhea flared up again.

Anyway...I'm at a loss. I've tried everything and I don't know if I should just be patient or suck it up and go into the vet again. Any suggestions, comments, or insight are appreciated!
 
@beth0612  , Hi & welcome to TCS. I'm sorry to hear your kitties are going through this. Your best bet would be to start your own thread on this, so you can get advice from others there.  I'm sure a mod can help you if you need help with that.   

On your kitties, I understand being between jobs & finances being limited because of this. I have been there in the past with kitty issues too. I also hate Rx food ingredients, & hate to use them. However, as the member who started this thread, & I have even been through w/ another issue. Sometimes, as much as we hate it, it's the only option to get them better & back to normal "for the time being." Sometimes, you just can't avoid it, & will be cheaper in the big picture to just go this route. as soon as things are normal for some time, & their systems are better, & calmed down for a while, THEN, you can wien back to a healthier food by slowly transitioning them.  I went through that w/ my past kitty for cystitis. In the end I HAD to do the Rx food. Then, after a year, I found a natural wet food that was made to be like a urinary formula, but natural, & he ate that for the rest of his life. ( I also ran it by his vet & showed her the ingredients first. We did an ultrasound a month later, & no crystals were found!) 
Hi @beth0612! I am so  sorry to hear you are going through something similar as to what we've been through with Monty.  I have been a nervous wreck worrying over Monty--I can't imagine how stressful it must be to worry about multiple pets with the same problem--I wouldn't wish the stress on anyone!  I also do have to say though, kudos for you for sticking with them despite their GI issues.  It is extremely frustrating to be patient in this type of situation; you are rising high above the pack when it comes to being accountable and responsible with your pets.

Like @Angels mommy  said, starting your own specific thread will probably lend you more individualized advice as to how to help.  I will definitely be following your thread myself since we are experiencing such similar issues with our pets, and I promise I will comment with any advice or suggestions that have helped with my Monty--we're all a team here at TCS after all.

Also, as@Angels mommy  said, you probably should try the Rx food for your cats.  I was SO hesitant to put Monty on wet Rx food in the first place (my dog, who has a sensitive stomach, has been on dry food for her entire life with no issues, and I wanted to prevent the pets eating each other's food) but, at the end of the day, I decided to take the plunge and give Monty the Rx food after all.  I am so glad I did too--we are now on 1/4 cup wet and 1/4 cup dry Rx food instead of all wet with considerably solid poos, and we only had him on the all Rx wet food for about a week or so.  Think of the Rx and wet food as temporary fixes until you can find something affordable and appropriate for your fur babies in the long run!  To cut costs, I only bought a week's worth of cans at a time, and got a Banfield (veterinary chain usually in Petsmart) wellness plan for Monty ($35/mo), which covers office visits (free), and discounts medication and other veterinary services considerably, every visit.
 
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Thanks, @Angels mommy  and @anjayenunciates!

I realized I misspoke--the vet wanted me to feed the kittens Science Diet kitten food, which I call prescription diet for some reason. They wouldn't eat it, which is how I got off and running on the grain-free and raw diets. The vet *did* recommend a prescription diet for 17 year old Lucy, but she wouldn't eat that, either, so I'm dealing with a house full of particular eaters.

I started a new thread in the health forum with most of my original post and pictures:

http://www.thecatsite.com/t/317645/chronic-diarrhea-in-kittens

Thanks for your help!
 
 

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Keep them on probiotics. Here's a list of human grade ones you can buy and the dosing for kittens. Kittens have VERY sensitive digestive systems so on top of the other issues the foods may be triggering it too. All my kittens get probiotics daily. 

http://www.ibdkitties.net/probiotics/
 
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