Please help!--kitten w/ recurring diarrhea despite many visits to vet, changes in diet, and medicati

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My 15 year old cat Has had diarrhea for 3 months the gave medicine which did nothing. For the last 3 days I have had him on raw meat purchased at the pet store. No diarrhea. Maybe you should try this.
 

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I also wanted to add that Madison had poo that smelled sooo awful and was losing weight. The raw meat diet is So far working great. I hope this helps.
 
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Thank you @lmgerig, @Punkysmom, and @GraceTheCat!

Thanks for asking @LisaHE!  Monty has still been gassy this week, so I put him back on the Hills ID wet mixed with Hills ID dry.  Unfortunately, he started to become a little more leaky on that diet, so I switched it back to Hills ID wet mixed with Royal Canin High Fiber dry.  He's even leakier now, but I think it probably is temporary, due to there being a change in his food.  His bowel movements are definitely still more on the solid side though.  Its just that when he passes gas, and believe me, he's a fart monster, he has some leakage.

But, other than his GI issues, Monty seems to be doing well.  His ears look cleaner, so I think the antibiotic ear drops are working.  He's due to go back to the vet not this weekend, but next.  Hopefully all will be well by then, and he can get neutered the following weekend.  

Today Panda (the dog) had a bone and Monty was trying to play with her.  All of the sudden I heard some snarling and saw Monty run.  I caught Monty and picked him up to see if he was alright and almost had a major freak out (instant crying) because I thought Panda had bit Monty in the eye (he had his right eye closed).  But, I think he actually had it closed to protect himself in the event she had been able to bite him (his eye looks totally fine).  Lesson learned though--if one pet has a treat, the other animal needs to be in another room until the treat is gone.

@lmg1959, I have considered putting him on raw food, but I'm still really uncomfortable with it.  I will be bringing the idea up to our vet in a week though, if Monty's GI issues haven't gotten better.  I'm really hoping we don't have to go on a raw diet.
 
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Just wanted to mention...
We have a Bengal mix in our rescue. I was talking with someone who's friend is an avid Bengal lover/owner (has had several, including early generations.) I mentioned that our boy had a sensitive digestive system that required a specific diet (he's on Nature's Variety Instinct canned only...his body does not tolerate dry food at all) and the girl I was speaking to stated that all of her friend's Bengals had the same exact issues.

Our boy would likely do well on raw, but initial attempts with a frozen raw diet didn't go over well with him as far as taste was concerned. His GI tract tolerated it very well. He was my first step into the world of raw and home-cooked and I, like you, was very nervous about it. However, I did a lot of research and was VERY lucky that my vets were open to the idea. Most vets do not support the idea of raw (homemade or commercial) or home prepared diets. But, my vets knew the amount of research I put into these things (and they know my stance of prescription foods on a whole and why...) so, they supported whatever decision I made.

I say this because it does appear that, because they are closer to their wild ancestor, that Bengals and other hybrids may need a diet that more closely mimics the wild diet.

Just something to consider.
 

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I'm not sure if this will work but it worked on mine, I just started putting fiber in her diet. I started adding chia seeds (you should soak them in water for 1 hour first so they turn into a gel consistency) and it worked within 2 days!
 

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I was uncomfortable about putting Madison on raw diet as well but I was so desperate. His diarrhea was so bad and lost so much weight. He was starving to death. Could feel all his bones. I let the food soften a bit then mix it in with some Blue wilderness. Best wishes.
 

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Just wanted to mention...
We have a Bengal mix in our rescue. I was talking with someone who's friend is an avid Bengal lover/owner (has had several, including early generations.) I mentioned that our boy had a sensitive digestive system that required a specific diet (he's on Nature's Variety Instinct canned only...his body does not tolerate dry food at all) and the girl I was speaking to stated that all of her friend's Bengals had the same exact issues.

Our boy would likely do well on raw, but initial attempts with a frozen raw diet didn't go over well with him as far as taste was concerned. His GI tract tolerated it very well. He was my first step into the world of raw and home-cooked and I, like you, was very nervous about it. However, I did a lot of research and was VERY lucky that my vets were open to the idea. Most vets do not support the idea of raw (homemade or commercial) or home prepared diets. But, my vets knew the amount of research I put into these things (and they know my stance of prescription foods on a whole and why...) so, they supported whatever decision I made.

I say this because it does appear that, because they are closer to their wild ancestor, that Bengals and other hybrids may need a diet that more closely mimics the wild diet.

Just something to consider.
CatPack, you summed this up so well, both in terms of breed-specific health issues (something we're dealing with, too, with two Siamese mixes) and the nervousness. My mother's a former dietitian who worked a lot in food service, so I grew up fearing bacteria in meat.
(Except in hamburgers with reddish-pink middles...)

As for vets, our vet is okay with raw food if it's processed for bacteria (which makes me feel better about feeding it, too) or made with meat that comes from a trusted supplier. And, of course, handled properly and balanced properly if it's homemade. Now that Rad Cat's poultry flavors are treated for bacteria I'll feel okay telling her we feed that! Some of the Primal flavors we feed are also treated; Stella & Chewy's and Nature's Variety treats at least some foods, too, I'm not sure how many. I'm also enjoying (!) feeding homecooked food that I make with EZcomplete: the cats just love it and there's absolutely no filler in that stuff.

Most important, anjayenunciates, is that I hope you're able to figure out what's bothering young Monty's digestive system and can resolve it fairly easily once you get to the root of the problem. And, if you do have to feed him raw food, just know that there are lots of other people, like @lmg1959 and me, too, who didn't feel particularly comfortable with it when they started.
 

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I would try a commercial raw food diet that uses pascalization to kill bacterial, like Nature's Variety Raw. He is a beautiful little guy, I hope he gets better soon 
 
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Thank you everyone!  I'm going to talk to the vet today about it actually.

Monty is being given Tresaderm drops in his ears (4 drops every 12 hours) for his ear infection.  I'm noticing the drops tend to cause the fur under his ears to matt, and he's losing some hair because of it.  Have any of you had this issue?
 

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Thank you everyone!  I'm going to talk to the vet today about it actually.

Monty is being given Tresaderm drops in his ears (4 drops every 12 hours) for his ear infection.  I'm noticing the drops tend to cause the fur under his ears to matt, and he's losing some hair because of it.  Have any of you had this issue?
I seem to remember hair loss from eardrops with one of my kitties who had severe mites. Took an age to get rid of them.
Don't start worrying unnecessarily now okay? Hugs.
 
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Thank you @Stewball  and everyone else for your advice and reassurance!

Little Monty's GI system seems to be doing better (much less gas), but his ears are definitely losing hair from the ear drops.  He has a visit set for the vet this upcoming weekend (pre-check for getting neutered).

However, he is quite the cuddler this evening. :) <3

 

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Thank you @Stewball
 and everyone else for your advice and reassurance!

Little Monty's GI system seems to be doing better (much less gas), but his ears are definitely losing hair from the ear drops.  He has a visit set for the vet this upcoming weekend (pre-check for getting neutered).

However, he is quite the cuddler this evening. :)
What a beautiful video. Lucky girl. My cats aren't affectionate at all with me!
 

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What a sweet cat! I'm glad to hear he's less gassy now!
 
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Monty update!

Unfortunately, Monty's ears are still not entirely better.  Apparently, the first time he had an ear infection, there was so much bacteria that it wasn't quantifiable (both ears).  The second visit, he was at a level 2 (this means they saw 2 distinct groups of bacteria on the slide after having done an ear swab) in the right ear only.  Yesterday, because Monty has still been scratching his ears, another swab was done and, sure enough, he is now at a level 1 in both ears.  So, though his ears are doing better, we now have to continue the ear drops 2x a day, 2 drops per ear AND clean his ears out daily for a week.  The vet thinks the hair loss is more so self-inflicted by scratching, and has advised us to have him wear a "cone of shame" to prevent him from scratching.  I don't want him to have to wear it for 3 weeks though (see below).

Monty is being fixed next weekend and, according to the vet, they do not suture male cat scrotums after their neuter.  We were advised to purchase paper litter to avoid contamination of the wound post-surgery, which we have done.  But, I am worried about the neuter now, knowing Monty's poo isn't completely solid still (he has one solid bowel movement, then a liquidy one 2-5 minutes later), though he has been better and keeping himself clean lately.  However, if Monty has on the cone of shame for 2 weeks post-neuter, I am worried he won't be able to keep his bum clean enough--what if he is leaky and it infects his scrotum?  The vet didn't seem too concerned but I sure am.  



 
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