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I have tried the frozen dinner thing-nope. its because they have noodles or veggies or gravy. He doesnt like frozen food..I dont know how he fended for himself before me. He never cooked and only ran a microwave...our first date or when i went to his house-i was starving-i am a pig and will eat anythign I dont care and he had no chips or anything for food other than a couple of cans of noodle soup which he will not eat-if i make pasta it has to be angel hair and not cooked...he doesnt like slimy noodles- me-I LOVE pasta-alone, with sauce. I dont care!! :) I have gotten him to eat chili but only if they are small beans. So I wanted to make corned beef and he says he isnt in the mood...grrr...ok so for now-he lives on subrolls and peanut butter then fruit. He loves fruit but he wants to loose weight so i told him to stick to protein and run far away from fruit since its a simple carb and will not give you much energy...lets see oh jars of peanuts and cashews and crackers sometimes..oranges and grapes and apples..i have gotten him those fruit dishes with all cut up..i dont know how he does it-he reminds me of a dessert cat-he doesnt eat much and never thirsty. me I drink about 2 gallons of water a day=I have to harp on him to drink at least 32 ounces...men!

Yeah if we go to someones house he pretty much only eats a roll and butter and meat. loves potatoes..so thats it in a nutshell..the other thing is he lives on herseys choc bars for 40 years...he used to eat 4 to 8 a day of almond choc bars..then he stopped..oh ice cream..so he has a super sweet tooth and I gained weight when we got together..before it was rice and veg and chic or turkey for years..i loved chips but i didnt eat sweets..i dont bake because he will pig out eat the entire pie/cake etc then ask me to not bake...i have tried for 13 years to bake him a birthday cake-this year I am going to try to find something light and airy like angel food-which I love.

I realize I enabled him-I am my mothers daughter and mom used to cater to dads food wants..so I am slowly changing it...The crockpot is going to be running this weekend. I will put it together at night and cook it overnight then he can pick away at it. probably beef or chicken...
Sorry, but your husband is playing you big time!  We teach people how to treat us, and he slowly twisted you up to his way, and you bent willingly.

He won't eat frozen foods? Bull!  He says he won't, because he knows it's been frozen.

I have a friend that is married to someone equally as picky as your husband.  He refused to eat frozen foods. He refused to eat leftovers either, so she was going to the grocery store every single day to shop for that day's meal.  When she had a baby she packed up the newborn and carted it off to the grocery store with her every single day, no matter what the weather so she could buy food to cook for her picky husband.

She could never take advantage of sales or specials.

I lived in the same building and I told her to buy what she wanted and use my freezer to freeze it and to let me know a couple days in advance what she wanted thawed and I would take it out of the freezer for her.  She did that.

You know what? He had no clue that he had been eating foods that were frozen.

Freezing is one of the best ways to preserve food. Fruits and veggies are picked at their peak of freshness and frozen. Same with canned items.  Canned at peak freshness.

In my opinion what you should do is start cooking and freezing foods for yourself, and leave him to fend for himself when it comes to food; both shopping for it and cooking it.  I'll bet it doesn't take him a week to come around and start being less picky and demanding.
 
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I like the ideas. But I never said he won't eat left overs. He just won't eat caserole stuff. When I say he won't eat frozen I mean those mass production meals. I don't mind them. I have a freezer full of them for him and I started taking them to work these weeks as he wasn't eating them. Believe me. If I could figure out how to be single again without hurting anyone I would.

He doesn't cook. And I've stopped cooking for him as much. I never got to the grocery store this weekend for the crock pot but I have some meat to make pasta with.

I've come down with a nasty cold so I've spent the past two days in bed eating junk. I even put some canned goods on the counter for him and I...

I don't know if I can deal with frozen meals like that-sandwiches in the freeser?? Won't the bread get soggy if its with the fillings? I would have to keep it all separate. I have cut back on daily trips to the store. The past week only stopped twice.

And backed off on buying him candy and other junk...yesterday he went to walmart and bought his own candy :) so yep we will try to make some changes.

I don't mind cooking potatoes for him and rice for me. He will figure it out.
 

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I don't know if I can deal with frozen meals like that-sandwiches in the freeser?? Won't the bread get soggy if its with the fillings? I would have to keep it all separate. I have cut back on daily trips to the store. The past week only stopped twice.

 
Nope the sandwiches are absolutely fine.  Just let them thaw naturally and add the fresh veggies just before you eat it.  I've been freezing meat sandwiches in advance for years.  It makes making lunch for work so much easier.   If you like Peanut Butter and Jam, you can even freeze those types of sandwiches.

When you work 12.5 hour shifts like I was at one point, you have to take 3 meals with you, and when you are up at 5:30 am, at work for 7 am, home by 8:30 pm, who has time to make breakfast, lunch and dinner the next day?  You want to unwind, shower and sleep.  But you have to make food to take or it will cost you $40 in the cafeteria for 3 meals.  When you have most of it ready to go in the freezer, it's a matter of grabbing it and putting together odds and ends like fresh fruit and dairy.  Three meals ready to go in less than 10 minutes.
 
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I'll bet it doesn't take him a week to come around and start being less picky and demanding.
I wouldn't bet on that. Like I said, my dad will (and has!) starve if there is nothing he'll eat. I mean, he'd probably eat something if he were literally dying of starvation. . .maybe. . .but probably only just enough to keep from dying. When he was a kid his parents tried to make him sit at the table until he ate his food. . .he once sat there for 3 days, night and day, until the food rotted enough that his parents had to get rid of it. There's a certain level of pickiness that isn't curable, I think.

Haha, when I saw this comic I thought of this thread :tongue2:
http://www.bugmartini.com/comic/taste-not-want-not/
 

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@Willowy  - You are right about that. My ex wasn't exactly a picky eater; he just didn't like to eat. I've seen him easily go 24 hours without eating. He never liked anything I cooked. After we were divorced, he ate mostly steak and potatoes in restaurants. He died two years ago from a host of serious conditions, but the first cause of death listed on his death certificate was malnutrition.
 

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My niece posted a cool idea on FB: on weekends, she assembles everything she needs for a crockpot meal in a freezer bag. at night (or after she gets home from work) she puts it in the fridge and in the morning plops in the crockpot. This includes things like stuffed green peppers. she puts the sauce on and lets the crockpot do all the work. For things like chili she'll precook the beef and put it in a bag with the spices, peppers and onions and beans, just throw in in the crockpot with a can of tomatoes and tomato sauce. If I had a family it would be wonderful.
 

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@foxxycat  thank you for this thread I am learning a lot. I am a stay at home mom and try to cook 3 times a day. Sometimes I rely on frozen meals but they are not always the healthiest because of the sodium and stuff.

@Natalie_ca  thank you for the link it has given me some Ideas. I like buying in bulk at the meat market and at the produce stands but I have to throw so much away. 

To the others that are picky eaters and textures you have given me insight on my daughter a little. I want to help her so bad. I get so frustrated at times. She will eat something for a while then she is done. I even took her bottle hoping she would start eating. It has been almost a week and she is not budging on the food. She asks me for something to eat but refuses anything with any texture. If she accidentally gets something in her mouth she throws up.  She is two. What I am scared of is her therapist has talked about putting her in the hospital and with holding anything until she starts eating. I find that to be cruel to her and me. 
 

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@foxxycat  thank you for this thread I am learning a lot. I am a stay at home mom and try to cook 3 times a day. Sometimes I rely on frozen meals but they are not always the healthiest because of the sodium and stuff.

@Natalie_ca  thank you for the link it has given me some Ideas. I like buying in bulk at the meat market and at the produce stands but I have to throw so much away. 

To the others that are picky eaters and textures you have given me insight on my daughter a little. I want to help her so bad. I get so frustrated at times. She will eat something for a while then she is done. I even took her bottle hoping she would start eating. It has been almost a week and she is not budging on the food. She asks me for something to eat but refuses anything with any texture. If she accidentally gets something in her mouth she throws up.  She is two. What I am scared of is her therapist has talked about putting her in the hospital and with holding anything until she starts eating. I find that to be cruel to her and me. 
Not only would I not listen to that therapist, I would run in the other direction and find another.  If your daughter is autistic, or a little different or has speech issues, look for a support group in your area and find out what other parents have had success with.
 

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SO what do you guys do with fussy eaters other than tell them to suck it up and eat?
Wow. The problem is, if all he is willing to eat is meat, I don't see how you can change that. You have a choice ... make 2 separate meals (which is not cost effective) ... make a healthy meal for yourself and let your significant other fend for himself ... or give in and make what he wants.

I ended a relationship because of something like this. A woman (I will call her Lori which is not her real name) was a former colleague whom I met whilst at work. Lori described herself as a  fussy eater and would only eat fast food items ... burgers, fried chicken, tacos, and pizza. The side dishes she'd eat were limited to fries (chips) and onion rings. I privately thought of her as spoiled rotten and suspected that as an only child she had been over indulged by her doting parents.

One day she collapsed at work and had to be rushed to the hospital. The doctor diagnosed her with an acute vitamin deficiency. The only vegetables she was getting came from the lettuce, tomatos, onion, and pickles on her hamburgers. The doctor told her in no uncertain terms that she needed to adjust her diet because she was overweight and had an acute vitamin and mineral deficiency.

I picked her up from the hospital and to cheer her up, I offered to take her to dinner. Where did she want to go? We went to Pizza Hut where she gorged on pepperoni pizza. She refused to get anything from the salad bar because she said she hated salad. She wouldn't even try a pizza with bell peppers or onions. When I reminded her of what the doctor had said, she started to tear up and she told me to back off because she was having a really bad day.

A few days later, Lori came over to my home for dinner. I had made her one of my favorite meals ... slow roasted prime rib with au jus ... a loaded baked potato ... a garden salad with Ranch dressing ... and a freshly baked apple pie.

Lori complained about the prime rib and told me that it tasted like a pork chop. She asked if we could just go to McDonald's. I glared at her and told her that I had spent a lot of time and money with the production of this meal and the least she could do was to make an effort to eat it. She refused to eat the baked potato because it hadn't been deep fried. She wouldn't touch the salad. When she saw the pie, she burst into tears (which is not the reaction most people have with regards to my food. She told me that she was REALLY HUNGRY and asked if we could PLEASE go to McDonald's. I told her to go but she'd have to go on her own. I walked her to the door and after she stepped outside, I closed the door and locked it.

Left unsaid were the thoughts that anyone who was too foolish to adjust her diet after having collapsed at work because of acute vitamin and mineral deficiencies was someone I did care to have in my life. I refused to enable her bad habits and since I had no wish to watch her long spiral towards self destruction, I ended our friendship.

I apologize if this is not the supportive advice you wanted to hear ... but as the AA says, the first step towards recovery is admitting that you have a problem. If your SO only likes meat and doesn't see a problem with this, your choices are really very limited.

I wish you well.

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Wow. The problem is, if all he is willing to eat is meat, I don't see how you can change that. You have a choice ... make 2 separate meals (which is not cost effective) ... make a healthy meal for yourself and let your significant other fend for himself ... or give in and make what he wants.

I ended a relationship because of something like this. A woman (I will call her Lori which is not her real name) was a former colleague whom I met whilst at work. Lori described herself as a  fussy eater and would only eat fast food items ... burgers, fried chicken, tacos, and pizza. The side dishes she'd eat were limited to fries (chips) and onion rings. I privately thought of her as spoiled rotten and suspected that as an only child she had been over indulged by her doting parents.

One day she collapsed at work and had to be rushed to the hospital. The doctor diagnosed her with an acute vitamin deficiency. The only vegetables she was getting came from the lettuce, tomatos, onion, and pickles on her hamburgers. The doctor told her in no uncertain terms that she needed to adjust her diet because she was overweight and had an acute vitamin and mineral deficiency.

I picked her up from the hospital and to cheer her up, I offered to take her to dinner. Where did she want to go? We went to Pizza Hut where she gorged on pepperoni pizza. She refused to get anything from the salad bar because she said she hated salad. She wouldn't even try a pizza with bell peppers or onions. When I reminded her of what the doctor had said, she started to tear up and she told me to back off because she was having a really bad day.

A few days later, Lori came over to my home for dinner. I had made her one of my favorite meals ... slow roasted prime rib with au jus ... a loaded baked potato ... a garden salad with Ranch dressing ... and a freshly baked apple pie.

Lori complained about the prime rib and told me that it tasted like a pork chop. She asked if we could just go to McDonald's. I glared at her and told her that I had spent a lot of time and money with the production of this meal and the least she could do was to make an effort to eat it. She refused to eat the baked potato because it hadn't been deep fried. She wouldn't touch the salad. When she saw the pie, she burst into tears (which is not the reaction most people have with regards to my food. She told me that she was REALLY HUNGRY and asked if we could PLEASE go to McDonald's. I told her to go but she'd have to go on her own. I walked her to the door and after she stepped outside, I closed the door and locked it.

Left unsaid were the thoughts that anyone who was too foolish to adjust her diet after having collapsed at work because of acute vitamin and mineral deficiencies was someone I did care to have in my life. I refused to enable her bad habits and since I had no wish to watch her long spiral towards self destruction, I ended our friendship.

I apologize if this is not the supportive advice you wanted to hear ... but as the AA says, the first step towards recovery is admitting that you have a problem. If your SO only likes meat and doesn't see a problem with this, your choices are really very limited.

I wish you well.

David
Thank you David=yep I purchased only fruit and salad this week. and one small bag of candy. hahaha!! I told him he has to buy his own junk :)

I think you did the right thing with your lady friend. I am almost as bad as her but not that bad.

I would never demand someone take me to mcdonalds. I would just go on my way home rather than force someone to do my bidding.

I think the boyfriend is relieved that I am trying to make healthier choices. He has always been a follower which frankly ticks me off but of course I have a choice. stay or tell em to go. So I just try to be gentle and firm. No more codependancy in this house. I bought lunchmeat and bread then told him he can make a sandwiche if he is hungry :)
 
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There's a certain level of pickiness that isn't curable, I think.
 
I don't agree with that at all.   What you describe sounds more like manipulation than anything.   Like the little kid holding their breath until they turn blue and die in order to get their way.

I was engaged to an abusive, master manipulator who threatened to kill himself each time I tried to leave.  The last time I left he was stringing a rope over the beams of the garage,  yelling at me that he was going to hang himself.  Normally I would have stopped and went back. But this time I stopped,  looked at him, and turned around and kept right on walking.  He didn't kill himself and to my knowledge is still alive today.

You say your Dad is so picky that he would refuse to eat if there was nothing that he liked available?  Then in my home he would starve, or learn to fend for himself so far as buying food, preparing it and washing up after cooking.  The fact that your Mom hasn't done that to him means that he's successfully been able to manipulate her into believing that he will allow himself to starve to death.
 

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Thank you David=yep I purchased only fruit and salad this week. and one small bag of candy. hahaha!! I told him he has to buy his own junk :)

I think the boyfriend is relieved that I am trying to make healthier choices. He has always been a follower which frankly ticks me off but of course I have a choice. stay or tell em to go. So I just try to be gentle and firm. No more codependancy in this house. I bought lunchmeat and bread then told him he can make a sandwiche if he is hungry :)
Good for you for not being an enabler :)  

If he is as picky as you say, then it's only fair and right that he learn to fend for himself instead of you having to adjust your way of eating to suit him.
 
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Originally Posted by DC1346  
Haha I forgot that yogert has protein=he loves plain strawberry or peach flavored. He hates the new trendy greek style. He likes it creamy=so yes it must be a texture thing.

Last night he made a sandwiche!!


I buy that salad in a bag with croutons and dressing=-made this then chopped half a head of broccolli and mix er up,. then he ate half of the bowl then got himself a ham sandwiche..no cheese..no mustard


I think we both are picky=but when we go out he almost always has a blt, hamburger no cheese or fried/broiled fish or steak with baked potatoe or fries..and sometimes he will eat the steam veggies...

the other day he asked for canned french style beans..yuck...well i bought the store brand..he says I dont like these..I said I am not paying $1.25 a can of beans and said he can buy his own..lol. he gives me cash for groceries and this week I felt good that I bought oranges apples grapes bananas brocoli pepper and onions..so I told him to make a veggie sandwiche and apple slices...the look on his face..hahaha.

I bought rye bread instead of other bread and I think he likes it..he ate it so hey we will get there...I work and he is retired and every now and then I say to him it would be nice if he cooked for a change..I just have to get better at asking for help..I am one of those people who stews but doesnt ask for help...so I know I have to speak up but part of me is scared-not sure why. He would never speak disrespectful to me. Actually he is one of those quiet passive agressive types and doesn't see it...I have pointed it out to him a few times..and tell him i cant read his mind and if he doesnt use his lips to tell me what he wants then he has no business getting pissed off at me. Which he has never verbally said anything rude so its hard to know..sometimes people who are quiet all the time scare the crap out of me more than someone who is always vocal...this funny thing about communication...
 

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Haha I forgot that yogert has protein=he loves plain strawberry or peach flavored. He hates the new trendy greek style. He likes it creamy=so yes it must be a texture thing.

Last night he made a sandwiche!!


I buy that salad in a bag with croutons and dressing=-made this then chopped half a head of broccolli and mix er up,. then he ate half of the bowl then got himself a ham sandwiche..no cheese..no mustard


I bought rye bread instead of other bread and I think he likes it..he ate it so hey we will get there...I work and he is retired and every now and then I say to him it would be nice if he cooked for a change..
Wow!  He ate a salad? So has he been holding out on you all these years regarding what he will or will not eat? This opens a lot more possibilities if he's willing to eat anything else beyond meat, meat, and more meat. And the salad had broccoli in it? So now I have to ask ... what about a Chinese beef with broccoli? Would he eat that? What about cream of broccoli soup which BTW can be naturally thickened with mashed potatoes. 

That's strange about the green beans. I think that most canned vegetables are disgusting because they're over cooked, so I have to ask ... is there really THAT MUCH DIFFERENCE between a store brand and this brand name that he wanted? How was he going to eat the green beans ... just reheated? Or was he going to jazz them up, tossing them perhaps with some just fried bacon? 

As far as his cooking goes ... does he know how to cook? I once had a friend whose skill level was close to that of being able to burn water. Not everyone can cook, though as they say in the Disney movie, Ratatouille, everyone has the ability to LEARN. Sadly my friend had no interest in learning since it was far easier to pop by my place when he got hungry. We lost touch after I moved away. I sometimes wonder what he did to fend for himself after I left. 
 

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You say your Dad is so picky that he would refuse to eat if there was nothing that he liked available? Then in my home he would starve, or learn to fend for himself so far as buying food, preparing it and washing up after cooking. The fact that your Mom hasn't done that to him means that he's successfully been able to manipulate her into believing that he will allow himself to starve to death.
Oh, yes, he'll fend for himself. . .as in going to Burger King :tongue2:. He would never buy food, prepare it, and cook it. Maybe canned Dinty Moore beef stew or canned spaghetti, but nothing that needs preparing. If my mom were to die or leave he would live on restaurant food and canned food. But my mom feels bad about him eating so much fast food/canned food. She's such a MOM. I agree that I wouldn't have catered to him for the last 40 years but she made her own choices.

I guess the fact that he would lose so much weight whenever he went to sea makes me think it's not curable. . .he just wouldn't eat the mess food at all. He would take a case of Cup O' Noodle with him, and gorge himself on rice dishes whenever they got shore leave, but he absolutely would not eat mess food. If the Navy, and spending weeks at sea, can't cure a picky eater, I don't know who could!

I should point out that he's not neurotypical. Not diagnosed with anything (he hates doctors) but probably Asperger's/high-functioning autism. Or something. But definitely not neurotyp.

There's also the issue of trying to tell someone, particularly an adult, what they should/shouldn't put in their own body. Bodily autonomy and all.

Foxxycat---I'm glad you found something he likes! Hopefully the 2 of you can figure it out.
 
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oh you have to hear what he used to make for lunches..
  He made what I call pickle salad=Broccoli, red/yellow pepper, pickles, olives (he loves olives-GROSS) sprinkles shredded cheese sometimes- 


but usually pickle juice from the jar-and they have to be those baby petite dills..I used to cut up carrots and sometimes he will eat carrots..but he would leave it out at room temperature and let the pickle juice get into the broccoli...God I thought it was gross..but nope for the past 10 years we worked together-thats what he eats..I got him to add some other veggies like cucumber, zucchini or something else and he normally wont eat it unless he is starving..basically he is someone who eats what he wants to eat but no he does not cook.  


someone above mentioned about canned spaghetti or take out-that's him. Beefaroni (UGH its not good like it used to be) or candy bars or ice cream..did i say ice cream? oh English muffins burnt in the toaster with butter and peanut butter-oh he wont eat eggs unless burnt to a crisp...god this man is very picky...so I just laugh now..

breakfast out at a restaurant he orders a veggie omelet which usually is only onion pepper and mushroom and maybe broccoli if they add it and no cheese-he tells them to burn it.

me i want two eggs over easy a toasted English muff with butter and bacon and ham-I dip my bread in the eggs with lots of black pepper on them-he wont touch my eggs :)

and NO he WOULD NOT EAT cooked veggies. I had cream of broc soup from this restaurant that was to die for...nope. He only eats seafood chowder or clam chowder..with potatoes and onions..no carrots or other gross veggies lol Which is kind of two faced because he eats veggies in an omelet but he absolutely will not eat peas, carrots, squash, sweet potatoe, or anything in that family. no zuccini no summer squash BUT I can live with that..I have started working on ideas for dinners where I can make a base then add what I want in my dish-Kind of keep the mushy stuff seperate...I pretty much cook boring food.

Heres what we made the past two months when I actually cook:

chicken/pork shake n bake and baked tator

sausage tomato sauce and angel hair w onion (lots of these) mush and at the very end add peppers-parm cheese and sauce.

Meat pie with mashed potatoes, corn and hamburg with lots of onions and peppers and mushrooms

Baked haddock with Ritz crackers and lots of butter

Tossed Salad as long as no peas or carrots=greek dressing/croutons/cheese

hamburgers on grill

Steak/Chicken/other meat on grill with or without marinate/barbecue sauce

my version of grilled potatoes-Tin foil and oil/garlic/herbs and sliced cooked potatoes=wrap up tight in tin foil and cook right on grill=make them crispy=oh my are they GOOD

Corn on the cob=he doesnt like it with butter/salt like I do

Basicly anything with potatoes and meat and light on the gravy-

Turkey from the store=the cooked breast or legs-he loves these

hot dogs and baked beans with two onions chopped=-if you put the chopped onion and butter in a heavy crockery bowl and nuke for 5 minutes they come out nice and soft-then add hot dog and beans and nuke again for  7 to 8 minutes or whatever.

Lasagne=cook meat and onion/butter then add to jar sauce and simmer with thyme/rosemarry or other herbs-yum. add egg/ricotta cheese and make the layers-I dont cook the noodles=he doesnt like slimey noodles so I just make this in a deep 4" baking dish.

OH forgot=Scallop potatos=slice them then take can of cream of chix soup=in bowl add more water with soup=add to container then layer potatoe slices=then more sauce-shredded extra sharp chedder=cover with more potatoe=do this again=then make sure that dish has an inch of space on the sides otherwise it boils and make mess=at the end I add a whole package of chedder shreds=we cook for 2 hours=he wants the cheese burnt=it comes out really good...this is his favorite thing=i added bacon pieces once=yummy

If we order out its usually meat and potatoe

I love stir fry type dishes-I eat the veggies and leave him the meat-he will eat the meat. I think its because his mother made him eat peas and squash types=and yes its about control-he controls what he eats..I am always trying different things and he will sniff it and go yuck..its kind of funny.

for awhile he was eating pickled garlic-I dont care for garlic. but he also doesnt mind spicy food anymore-when we first got together 13 yrs ago he couldnt eat buffalo chicken wings-now he can handle it.

Me I LOVE thai food and Indian food. Curry. Pepper. Whatever..so I bought that noodle thing Pad thai with peanut sauce and those linguini type noodles with shrimp and chicken-its sweet and spicy-he actually loves it=so I will close out with I need to suck it up and cook better meals. and not worry about him and his eating. we are from two different generations and he needs to eat better to stay healthy=we have had some deaths in his family in the past 5 yrs and I think he is waking up finally and trying to be healthier, we will see how it goes.
 
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