Do not buy Temptations Cat Treats, They are slowly killing your cats & Whiskas is not doing anything

2Cats4everLoved · Mar 30, 2016

Donutte said:
I think someone mentioned something very profound the other day, albeit about humans. Someone asked why people are getting cancer so much these days. And the answer is - people are living longer. Well, pets are living longer these days too. CKD is a great example, as that is typically an older cat disease. When they get it as younger cats, it's usually polycystic kidney disease, which is genetic. That was the case with my first kidney cat most likely, as he was pretty young when he died.

Also, add in the fact we have the internet now, whereas we didn't really 20 years ago. We are hearing about things all the time now where we wouldn't before, and we're hearing about it a lot. I never knew anyone else that had a cat with kidney disease until I came here. And then I found out someone I know how a cat with that not long after that - albeit, I found out via the internet.

Anne said:
Very true!

Also, people provide better healthcare for their cats. With more cats being seen by vets, you get more diagnoses of illness. Cats who 30-40 years ago would have just been a bit sick and died, are now seen by a professional and given a name for their illness.

I'm personally finding that cat's are dying younger in their teens than years ago. All my cats growing up well lived into their 20's and were outdoor cats, no particular foods, indoor/outdoor and got the expected regulated shots to meet our towns regulations. Theywore flea collars during the warm months.Very interesting thoughts on the matter.

I do agree about the interweb regarding information being at our finger tips and while things may seem worse, it's just that we've never heard of it before.

I've made a living off of Pharma (all of them) and the profit margin in alarming, that goes for humans products as well. While people are living longer "in USA" they are not as healthy as generations before, that's a fact.

Still makes me wonder. though that's a topic not for this thread...

Bottom line is: You need to pay attention to your loving kitty, nothing is fool proof. Give treats and have fun, just in moderation.

donutte · Mar 30, 2016

2Cats4everLoved said:
I'm personally finding that cat's are dying younger in their teens than years ago. All my cats growing up well lived into their 20's and were outdoor cats, no particular foods, indoor/outdoor and got the expected regulated shots to meet our towns regulations. Theywore flea collars during the warm months.Very interesting thoughts on the matter.

I do agree about the interweb regarding information being at our finger tips and while things may seem worse, it's just that we've never heard of it before.
I've made a living off of Pharma (all of them) and the profit margin in alarming, that goes for humans products as well. While people are living longer "in USA" they are not as healthy as generations before, that's a fact.

Still makes me wonder. though that's a topic not for this thread...

Back when I was a kid, if our cats made to 14, they were REALLY old. I'd venture to say the median age our cats lived to then was maybe 12. Now, it seems pretty young still. Even 16 (the age Lucky was) seemed young, although that seems to be more the median in our household these days. I'm sure there are statistics out there for the average house cat. And I think you need to tell us exactly what you've done with your cats that so many lived to 20 and beyond! I think we have one cat that MAY have been 20 when he died; we don't really know how old he was when we got him, but he was definitely an adult and we had him for over 18 years. He ate a dry-food diet of something that would probably be considered horrible now (I forget what we fed before Science Diet). In other words, the same thing as all the other cats. I was still little when he died but I don't think we gave many treats back then. The occasional can of food was considered their treat back then!

Bottom line is: You need to pay attention to your loving kitty, nothing is fool proof. Give treats and have fun, just in moderation.

Absolutely, 100% agree. And do not dismiss things! Even something as simple as a change in personality can signal something is wrong. If your gut is telling you something is wrong, or if you even feel the need to post a question here, there's a good chance you should take your cat to the vet. Which is why I like this site so much because that's exactly the advice people will get.

I still would not say that Temptations will cause issues in all cats though (which is what the OP was stating - and I notice has not since posted!). I'm sure there are always going to be individual cases where "X" treat/food causes bad things for "Y" cat. To me, it's the same as folks going online and telling the world they shouldn't take a medication (that might actually help a lot of people) because they had a bad side effect. People and cats are all individual, with individual make-ups.

bonepicker · Mar 30, 2016

2Cats4everLoved said:
partly

I'm personally finding that cat's are dying younger in their teens than years ago. All my cats growing up well lived into their 20's and were outdoor cats, no particular foods, indoor/outdoor and got the expected regulated shots to meet our towns regulations. Theywore flea collars during the warm months.Very interesting thoughts on the matter.

I do agree about the interweb regarding information being at our finger tips and while things may seem worse, it's just that we've never heard of it before.
I've made a living off of Pharma (all of them) and the profit margin in alarming, that goes for humans products as well. While people are living longer "in USA" they are not as healthy as generations before, that's a fact.

Still makes me wonder. though that's a topic not for this thread...

Bottom line is: You need to pay attention to your loving kitty, nothing is fool proof. Give treats and have fun, just in moderation.

I too have had older cats that went out in the past, if cars, disease, or other animals don't kill your cat, they lead the perfect life sunshine, exercise, live prey. We never vaccinated back then either. I think a fat house cat is safer but sometimes not as healthy! Just my opinion![emoji]128062[/emoji][emoji]10084[/emoji]️[emoji]128062[/emoji][emoji]128576[/emoji]

Anne · Mar 30, 2016

bonepicker said:
I too have had older cats that went out in the past, if cars, disease, or other animals don't kill your cat, they lead the perfect life sunshine, exercise, live prey. We never vaccinated back then either. I think a fat house cat is safer but sometimes not as healthy! Just my opinion![emoji]128062[/emoji][emoji]10084[/emoji]️[emoji]128062[/emoji][emoji]128576[/emoji]

I tend to agree that living outside could very possibly be a healthier (though more dangerous) lifestyle for cats. Simply getting more exercise makes a huge difference in the health of humans, so it's very likely the same is true of cats. Indoors-only is safer but possibly has potential health risks due to it being a more sedentary lifestyle.

2Cats4everLoved said:
Bottom line is: You need to pay attention to your loving kitty, nothing is fool proof. Give treats and have fun, just in moderation.

Absolutely!

NewYork1303 · Mar 30, 2016

Its definitely not as simple as one thing causes another thing. There are way too many factors to kidney disease to blame Temptations alone for causing them.

I do think too many treats could be a problem in the case of many cats. One of my friends goes through several bags of cat treats a month. For our house, we have the same bag of Temptations that we bought last year since we feed them barely any at all, just since my 3 year old cat won't eat anything else. We're thinking of tossing the bag and buying a fresh one soon since the treats in it are going to expire. I don't see how anyone could prove that giving a cat one or two of Temptations treats a day would cause kidney disease. There are simply too many factors.

tarasgirl06 · Mar 30, 2016

A lot of wisdom in your comment! One thing I believe, whether or not it's "proven" in western medicinal circles, is that an all-meat diet wears out the kidneys faster, whether you're an obligate carnivore or not.

bob4393 · Aug 16, 2016

CJ67 said:
Anyone who owns a cat, if you are giving them Temptations Cat Treats PLEASE STOP IMMEDIATELY! It is causing kidney and renal failure, Some cats are affected by it right away, some it takes years of eating them, none the less they have connected this treat to renal failure, Look it up in consumer affairs website and you will see all those that lost their pets or has their pets and a ton of vet debt!

bob4393 · Aug 16, 2016

My cat nearly died from. Temptations. She was shaking and could bearly breath. We stop giving her the treats and over the next four days she recovered. What I just disribed came after about two months of coughing when she would run thru the house. Now with out the treats no cough. And she runs like a nut thru the house with the new kitten we have.

donutte · Aug 16, 2016

bob4393 said:
My cat nearly died from. Temptations. She was shaking and could bearly breath. We stop giving her the treats and over the next four days she recovered. What I just disribed came after about two months of coughing when she would run thru the house. Now with out the treats no cough. And she runs like a nut thru the house with the new kitten we have.

I'm sorry your kitty went through that. I can't say whether or not it was because of the Temptations - if you think it was, then it may have been. But it's not fair to make a blanket statement like that based on that. A lot of cats eat these without issue. More often than not, actually. It sounds like your cat possibly had an allergy, in which case, it's definitely not fair to make a blanket statement.

If you feel your kitty does better without them, by all means, don't feed them to her. Mine eat them without issue, but they are only given one or two every other day.

oldgloryrags88 · Aug 19, 2016

I've been giving my cats Temptations for years as a treat only obviously. Like 1-3 times a week and only 1-3 treats. I don't really give any treats anymore.

donutte · Aug 20, 2016

oldgloryrags88 said:
I've been giving my cats Temptations for years as a treat only obviously. Like 1-3 times a week and only 1-3 treats. I don't really give any treats anymore.

I give treats mainly because I pill my senior girl with a pill pocket with a Temptation stuck on top, and my boys will go nuts if I don't give them a treat too.

laura mae · Aug 20, 2016

What's the evidence of cause and effect? Disease emerges for many reasons and unfortunately can manifest at coincidental times. What is the supposed ingredient that would cause the issue? That would be much more helpful.

cocobutterfly · Aug 20, 2016

I also can't scientifically verify just exactly how Temptations ruin the health of cats. I can only say that for our current cat, Temptations and Greenies gave her explosive diarrhea, so we had to put an end to that immediately.

Since tossing those treats, we've been giving her Nature's Variety mini raw mixers and Stella & Chewy's freeze dried bites as treats, and she hasn't had diarrhea again.

moggiegirl · Aug 22, 2016

Temptations is a junk food treat. I buy freeze dried meat treats, chicken, chicken hearts. Lamb liver, turkey, freeze dried raw.

justice · Sep 15, 2016

If every complaint about this treat was diversified, it would suggest there's no correlation. If you understand anything about statistics, you should realize that when EVERY single complaint says, "I think Temptations caused Kidney Failure", you would be an idiot to ignore the correlation. As an owner of a website that claims to offer help and guidance, you should be more careful about respecting other people's life-threatening concerns. My Neighbour's cat became a Temptations addict, and he didn't develop any cardiac problems, lung issues, or anything else... he did develop kidney disease. Do not feed these to your cat!!!

Ladewyn · Sep 15, 2016

Justice said:
If every complaint about this treat was diversified, it would suggest there's no correlation. If you understand anything about statistics, you should realize that when EVERY single complaint says, "I think Temptations caused Kidney Failure", you would be an idiot to ignore the correlation. As an owner of a website that claims to offer help and guidance, you should be more careful about respecting other people's life-threatening concerns. My Neighbour's cat became a Temptations addict, and he didn't develop any cardiac problems, lung issues, or anything else... he did develop kidney disease. Do not feed these to your cat!!!

It's perfectly reasonable to ignore a bunch of laypersons saying they 'think' temptations caused kidney disease. Because firstly, you'd need a very significant number of people making that claim, which nobody's provided a source for, and secondly, even if there's a correlation, correlation dies not equal causation, which is a very basic but important foundation of statistical analysis.
Anne isn't being disrespectful to anyone's concerns, she's just saying that you shouldn't be making claims like this without evidence.

Kat0121 · Sep 15, 2016

Aldewyne said:
It's perfectly reasonable to ignore a bunch of laypersons saying they 'think' temptations caused kidney disease. Because firstly, you'd need a very significant number of people making that claim, which nobody's provided a source for, and secondly, even if there's a correlation, correlation dies not equal causation, which is a very basic but important foundation of statistical analysis.
Anne isn't being disrespectful to anyone's concerns, she's just saying that you shouldn't be making claims like this without evidence.

Agreed plus I'd like to add that it is not the place for anyone here to tell anyone else what to and not to feed their cat. Everyone has to decide for his/herself what is best for their pet. I do feed Temptations but very rarely. If I bought a small bag today, it would last us at least a couple of months- I have 3 cats. I prefer to give them other treats such as Pure Bites or plain cooked meats.

We're here to offer advice, suggestions and support- not to tell people what to do or judge them for their choices.

kytna · Sep 26, 2016

I hope this isn't true. I've been giving my cat a big handful of Temptations treats when i wake up in the morning and before i go to sleep at night. For the last 2 years i think. And he is perfectly healthy. Other then that he eats only Meow mix. Nothing else in kibble. He eats boiled pieces of chicken sometimes and loves licking the cream off my fingers from a cream filled snack. Which he only gets a little bit of. But he looks forward to his big handful of Temptation snacks. He goes through a big 7 dollar container of them in a month. Now i'm worried. Is this Temptations treat rumor just a rumor? I really hope so. My cat seems normal.

donutte · Sep 26, 2016

Kytna said:
I hope this isn't true. I've been giving my cat a big handful of Temptations treats when i wake up in the morning and before i go to sleep at night. For the last 2 years i think. And he is perfectly healthy. Other then that he eats only Meow mix. Nothing else in kibble. He eats boiled pieces of chicken sometimes and loves licking the cream off my fingers from a cream filled snack. Which he only gets a little bit of. But he looks forward to his big handful of Temptation snacks. He goes through a big 7 dollar container of them in a month. Now i'm worried. Is this Temptations treat rumor just a rumor? I really hope so. My cat seems normal.

I think someone above said it best when they said "correlation does not equal causation". So many cats that have never had Temptations in their lives get CKD or other issues. Giving a cat Temptations will not cause them to get sick, exceptions for allergies of course. It's probably best that any treat be given in moderation - but that could be said of Temptations or the most expensive treat in the world.

tarasgirl06 · Sep 26, 2016

So did mine, until they weren't. Personally, when it comes to my loved ones' health I would always want to be safe instead of sorry. And there are so many other kinds of treats out there! Just sayin'.

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