Vet says unusual muscle creatine for how wasted he appears. Ideas?

Grim has been eating rubber squinkie type toys. For I don't know how long.

He has a burning rubber smelling stool that is almost liquid every other day. Has regurgitated 5 of the things; partially digested.

He's losing weight and vet says not getting nutrients from what he eats.

Kidney and white count fine. Have yet to test pancreas.

The only unusual thing was that she said his creatine levels (relating to his muscles if I understand) are highly unusual for a cat who appears to be wasting away. So much so she had to check the to see that the lab wasn't in error.


It's possible my roommate was intentionally feeding him human food (and seriously poisoned him without realizing it was more than me being anal about my cats) and my roommate's daughter may have been feeding Grim the toys for a few weeks. She starting saying, "meow meow meow meow meow. eat the baby" with a grin on her face and the toys are of little babies in diapers, some of them. She's 12. I took Grim out of that house. It's not outside the realm of possibility my roommate was poisoning Grim by other means either. He hates my cat & tells him he's gonna die all the time.

Has anyone had experience with this before?

Any idea what might be going on that's preventing him from getting nutrients?

(by the by, that was a verbally and emotionally abusive relationship I was in & I have left & am someone safe with Grim now)

 

Thank heavens you were able to get yourself and Grim out of that house!  It sounds like a nightmare for both of you. The daughter at 12 years old sounds like a budding sadist feeding a cat plastic toys and the roommate (her father?) sounds like he's not much better.  Maybe even worse.  I get really angry when I hear stories like this.   

I don't know what might be preventing Grim from getting nutrients but wondered if he is being treated for the diarrhea?  It might help to add a tablespoon of canned pumpkin (no spices) to his food .  Ask your vet first though, because this is a very unusual situation.  Has the vet suggesting adding any supplements to offset all the nutrients Grim is losing?

What kind of tests did the vet do?  I'm wondering if Grim still has something stuck internally that might show up in x-rays or an ultrasound.  

I'm really sorry you and Grim have had such a horrible experience.    Fingers crossed that Grim recovers soon.    

I'm horrified at this. Your roommate and her daughter are clearly sociopaths. I don't have any advice beyond what has been said, but is there any way you can get a security camera for your room for your own safety? Or to catch them saying something you can use to prove your cat was poisoned deliberately?

Can your vet report these nut jobs to local law enforcement?

Thank you. Yes, it's good to be out of that toxic environment! I just hope I got out in enough time to save my baby.

The vet hasn't suggested supplements at this point. The diarreahea is periodic; the rest of his stools are either healthy or extremely plump & have rubber toy bits in them. Somehow, it seems, he knows when he's going to have a poo with rubber bits in it, because only then does he not poop in the litter box and turns right around to eat it. 

The vet told me to increase his food to 2  5.5 oz cans of wet food each day. I'm working up to that.

I had been feeding 1/4 can in the am & 1/3 can in the pm. Anymore than that and he was throwing up all the food and not getting any nutrition. I feel like I should have caught on to his being sick sooner. Being around him everyday as he's losing weight I didn't notice it was happening until I realized how light he was when I picked him up and after that I just kept worrying as he kept losing weight. It took time to get money together for the vet.

Now I'm up to 1/4 am 1/3 mid day and 1/2 pm.

He's got an appointment to get his pancreas tested March 17th. I'll ask her specifically what she has tested & get that written down.

Yes, my roommate and his daughter are not healthy individuals. He's extremely psychologically disturbed (not realizing things he's just done & blaming me), angry and anti-social. She maybe is...off. I'd thought her talk of hurting, killing people, setting things on fire, lying, and her habit of wanting to be stealing every time we go anywhere were just her following the bad example her dad sets for her. Maybe by now the damage is done & she's just as disturbed as he is. It's likely that she saw how much that cat upset her and sought to eliminate our fighting. We would get into fights about needing to spend money on a covered trash can for the kitchen & a nice trash can was all she got her dad for Christmas last year.

He only has her every other weekend as is. Probably should not have her at all, I guess. Her mom is checked out on weed all the time and expresses no affection for the girl. They live with her grandma.

The person I'm staying with doesn't understand what my cats mean to me. He is confused by my being upset thinking that Grim might die. Cuz life would be easier and I'd spend less money on cat food. He thinks the pooping outside the litter box is a behavioral thing & Grim is pooping out of spite cuz this new guy is in my life. New guy in my life will never be more than just a friend. My kitties are my children!

 

Did they xray the bowels? If the vomiting is because of too much food=its possible one of those foreign objects is the cause-it may need time to finally work its way out-you did the right thing getting out...I used to have an ex whose daughter was similiar to that girl but not as bad at least I never caught her in the act-hence why I left with whatever I could shove in my car in 2003. I don't regret it. Being alone is not the worse thing in the world.

The canned pumpkin is in the baking lane-you can try either pumpkin or squash-as long as nothing else in the mix-I have had success with plain ol babyfood squash-the squash and pumpkin are in the same family=both have fiber-it stops diareah and constipation-I have a cat who will lick it off my finger but forget about in a dish.

Hoping that things calm down enough=the vomiting could be from stress in a toxic environment-its possible kitties get PTSD just like people=please take care of yourself-you will feel like you have to constantly run but now you are safe=took me a few months to realize this...sending you hugs

{e-hugs} thank you

Baby food! What a great idea.

His bowel has not been x-rayed yet. I'm not sure my vet is taking me seriously when I suggest people who lived with me may have made Grim sick on purpose. I didn't want to believe it myself.

You went through a similar situation, it sounds like. Sociopaths sometimes just seem to be shy depressed people at first.

No one deserves to live in fear. It didn't really occur to me that Grim could have PTSD. There were a few times my roommate got violent with him, so I'd been worried about damage physically from it, but didn't even think of the toll it was taking on him emotionally.

Grim's behavior changed for the worse after my roommate brought his dog into the apartment then for months refused to listen to me about there being proper ways to integrate a dog into a cat house. If he'd of just been compliant about always having his dog on a leash when walking him from his room to go out then this may never have happened.

Grim has been a stressed out mess ever since the dog arrived & my roommate just blamed me for messing up my cat. Grim needs to be by my face almost constantly, and hunts out my hands to rub and press his chin on a lot of the time. He purrs a ton & I'm pretty sure it's out of stress & fear. The chin tamping thing seems to make his stomach upset, so even if I wanted to let him soak my clothes in his drool I can't.

It equates to me feeling like I'm always rejecting his affection. But, I know..it's not affection at this point. It's like compulsion.

I should be getting to a nice place where they love cats soon. I hope that loving energy directed at us both begins to undo the damage of having hate blasted at us for so long. Cats are so sensitive to energy & I'm sure he's picking up on how distressed I have been, had been, in that terrible apartment.

I'm completely out of that place now. I have to go back a few more times to get the rest of my things. Even tho he doesn't value his daughter, he'd still get even with me if I messed with his custody. I've been considering it though. Thinking maybe there's time for this kid to turn out alright. Oh i just realized hed be pissed about paying child support & getting  nothing out of it.

What does he get out of it anyway? She doesn't see what a mess he is, unlike the rest of the world. She wants to be just like her dad.

It really might be worthwhile for Grim to have an x-ray to make sure nothing is stuck internally.  Since he's still pooping bits out, there's obviously something still in there that shouldn't be present.  Poor little guy.  The two of you must feel such a sense of relief to be in a safe place now.  It's a bit unfortunate that the person you're staying with right now doesn't understand your deep concern for Grim but it is also that person's loss.  Having a close bond with a cat is a very meaningful experience and people who don't have that, are missing out on something very special.  I'm glad you'll be moving soon to a place where cats are loved as they should be!  

The more you write about your old situation, the worse it sounds.  The things you describe the 12 year old daughter saying are pretty horrifying.  She's obviously very disturbed and needs help.  I think the world around her needs for her to get help as well.  I'm not sure what can be done about it though.  As long as she admires a parent who behaves the same way, she is not going to see the need for change.  The main thing is that you and Grim have made your escape and are safe now.  Healing for both of you will take some time.   Best wishes and vibes for both of you.    

I'll mention x ray to the vet when I see her next Thursday.

Thanks for the good vibes. <3 your words brought a smile to my face. Bonding with cats is a truly precious experience. I'm so lucky to have my kitty babies. I don't know what I'd do without Miso and Grim. <3

Those rubber parts are probably interfering with the absorption of nutrients. The baby food meats would be wonderful for him as they are 100% meat and have no fillers. Poor guy, he needs all he can get.

You were wise to get away from those people. They would have drug you down with them, and no telling what the cats would suffer. Good luck to you and Grim.

Grim wouldn't stop meowing last night, so I had to put him in a kennel for 2.5 hours to get sleep.

He pooped and it was smeared all over, so I'm not sure if he ate the toy prize out of it or just stepped on as he wallowed around in distress.

He had a sink bath this morning. I know I always feel better when I'm clean so I hope that improves his mood.

Along that line of good healing things i do for me, I took him out in his cage & we sat in the sun breathing good fresh air.

His guts are making very very loud squish sounds. Like playing with gak or slime in its container. It reminded me of when I get backed up scary bad from my pain medications. And pushing on my guts helps me clear blockages so maybe it'd help him?

So I began to firmly massage any soft part he'd let me reach. I did that for an hour & he belched a handful for times, but no gas and no trip to the litter box.

His guts are noisier than ever now, but he's actually the calmest I've seen him in a week & is sleeping in my lap now.

I took video to capture the sounds.

My vet isn't in today, so I left her a message asking if we are sure there's no obstuction and did he get x-rays?

That was very insightful of you to think of the massage.  It obviously was exactly what he needed - it must have relieved some of the discomfort he's feeling.  Has he been making the gurgling sounds all along?  Poor guy.  I am furious at  that 12 year old demon-in-training for causing such pain to little Grim.  

It might be a good idea to send the vet the video you made.   I'm wondering if Grim needs something for pain?  

She told me that the high muscle creatine is an idication of abuse.

I cut beef out of his diet & started giving him synacore once a day & the poop issues have cleared up. He's pooping solid and not eating it.

$233 later (once again it's a blessing I'm homeless cuz of that abusive sitch)

He's gained a pound in a week, so that's good. He was dehydrated at his appointment yesterday & needed fluids. I've been adding water to his wet food at all three meals, so that was diconcerting.

The vet had a hard time getting blood from him, but managed to. It'll be a week before his pancreatic results are back.

He's still starved for my affection and attention. That fact is what makes me think he's gonna die and he knows it.

But then it occurred to me that he's making me smell like him by rubbing and drooling on me constantly. So, maybe it's just a stress/anxiety response from the living situation we just got out of of & he's not doing it cuz he knows he doesn't have much time left.

So that's what I'm holding onto. He's making me smell unmistakably familiar and that comforts him. Like how some cats sleep in their litter box in adoption shelters. (i hate when anyone calls a cat stupid for doing that)

 

That's so sad. Poor kitty. It's great he's found someone who is kind to hom and will take care of him.

It just breaks my heart that little Grim was mistreated so badly.  I think you're right that his drooling and constant affection are part of him recovering from the abuse he endured and showing you his love and gratitude.   It sounds like he is improving and feeling better which is such wonderful news.     Please keep letting us know how this little guy does.  Fingers crossed that you find your own place to live, soon.