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I rarely do twitter, it's kind of annoying to me but I can send a message. Anyone else want to join in and do the same?
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Australian plans to kill 2 million feral cats - petition
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Ok, question. I went to twitter and remembered something. My tweets are protected. Can I still tweet to others who don't follow me? Or will they not see it?
Well that is one country that will not see a red cent from me. I was thinking about visiting one day but now, no way in .......#$@#*^*^
All the news on it I can find is from last year, the most recent in October. Any recent updates? Did they start the killing already? Did they re-think it due to the uproar?
I wrote to the Austrailian embassy in Canada, they need to know that there are thousands of animal advocates that will not set foot in their country if they follow through with this.
I thought it had been shouted out of existence last year.
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No one answered my question. It's off topic but not really because the point is, if this petition is still current, can I tweet about this to someone who doesn't follow me if my tweets are protected?
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I think if your tweets are protected you have to manually allow people who are not on your list of followers. I practically never use twitter though so you should probably double check that!
https://support.twitter.com/articles/14016?lang=en
As an Australian citizen this will backfire on the government in some way. Too many outdoor cats are going to be collateral. Then people will just continue to dump unwanted cats and the problem continues. There is barely any support in terms of desexing programs and one shelter in Sydney was so over capacity they gave away adult cats for free.
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Google News shows a couple of more recent articles , like http://www.odt.co.nz/news/world/australia/370653/australia-cull-millions-feral-cats.
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They still are not addressing the REASON for their overpopulation. It's not the cats fault that irresponsible owners dump them or refuse to get them spayed/neutered! Australia's "solution" to this problem is like spaying air freshener in a smoke-filled room! Put out the fire first!! Then the odor goes away. The problem is PEOPLE, not cats. Who will be able to make them see this?
Ginny I hear this sound outside last night. I thought there was an injured dog in our yard. Nope it's a female cat in heat. What a voice she has. Where did she come from ? I'm putting my money on my relatives next door. And that's where it ran when I banged on the screen door.
Once again the people who fill the shelters face few consequences while the rest of us are trying to instill real value to the lives and welfare of our companion animals.
I simply don't have the funds to fix this one. AC will do nothing. I can set a trap and take her to a shelter. You know those places that have animals stacked like cordwood because of ignorant savages like THE PEOPLE NEXT DOOR.
Australia just like the US is failing to address the source of the problem. Even when AC writes the tickets offenders like THE PEOPLE NEXT DOOR get a pass on the fines for economic reasons. We wouldn't want to impose any financial hardship on them for their ignorant behavior.
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Funny, do most governments suffer from poor critical thinking skills? Must be so. Do they truly want to know how to SOLVE the problem or are they scared that it might cost more than they've got? I'd say $3.6 Million is a whole bunch of money and a lot of good could be done with that to help the problem, but NOT the way they are going to do it.
I don't recall an overpopulation problem back in the 60's when I was a little girl. Yet we had a female kitty, never spayed, had at least several litters of kittens that I remember before she mysteriously "ran away", or at least that was what my folks told me
Maybe there was a problem and I was just too young to know about it. But back then, there was no leash law. EVERYONE'S pets stayed outdoors. They came in only for special occasions or extreme weather and then only into the garage. We'd sneak our other cat Corky into the house sometimes. At least that's how my neighborhood did it.
I don't recall an overpopulation problem back in the 60's when I was a little girl. Yet we had a female kitty, never spayed, had at least several litters of kittens that I remember before she mysteriously "ran away", or at least that was what my folks told me
Maybe there was a problem and I was just too young to know about it. But back then, there was no leash law. EVERYONE'S pets stayed outdoors. They came in only for special occasions or extreme weather and then only into the garage. We'd sneak our other cat Corky into the house sometimes. At least that's how my neighborhood did it.
In the 60s excess animals were disposed of. Old farm journals would recommend disposing of all but the toms in a litter of kittens. Purebred dogs that did not make the grade were disposed of. Pet quality was a marketing game to foist inferior specimens on the middle classes that wanted the luxury of owning a purebred. The old methods were pretty brutal but effective. With S/N now common you would think the animal population would be under control or at the very least declining.
Funny, do most governments suffer from poor critical thinking skills? Must be so. Do they truly want to know how to SOLVE the problem or are they scared that it might cost more than they've got? I'd say $3.6 Million is a whole bunch of money and a lot of good could be done with that to help the problem, but NOT the way they are going to do it.
I don't recall an overpopulation problem back in the 60's when I was a little girl. Yet we had a female kitty, never spayed, had at least several litters of kittens that I remember before she mysteriously "ran away", or at least that was what my folks told me
Maybe there was a problem and I was just too young to know about it. But back then, there was no leash law. EVERYONE'S pets stayed outdoors. They came in only for special occasions or extreme weather and then only into the garage. We'd sneak our other cat Corky into the house sometimes. At least that's how my neighborhood did it.
In the Anne of Green Gables series, they mention drowning kittens on almost every other page . As Aunt Josephine says, "kittens must be drowned, I admit, or the world would be overrun". In The Swiss Family Robinson (book, not movie), their dogs have puppies and it said they kept 2 pups "to console the mother dog" and the rest of the puppies "disappeared to that place that all puppies disappear to". The same is true of almost all kids' books written in the 1800s. . .I'm not sure why they felt it was a good idea to reference killing kittens and puppies in kids' books, maybe trying to desensitize and prepare them for the cruel realities of adult life? Or it was just such a part of their daily life that they felt it was no more disturbing than eating dinner?
Back in the 70s, when they started to have shelters (I guess they were called pounds back then) report on how many animals they killed, the numbers were well over 20 million (in the US). And that's only the shelters that reported.
Purebred dog people call it "bucketing" or "dunking". I imagine they wouldn't bother making cutesy euphemisms if it wasn't common, or at least used to be.
And, well, I hate to break it to anyone who hasn't figured it out yet, but when parents told kids that a pet "ran away" or "went to live on a farm". . .yeah, no, that wasn't true.
So yeah, it depends on what you consider "overpopulation". If you just mean a lot of cats (or whatever), then, sure, killing a lot of them certainly fixes overpopulation! If you consider "overpopulation" to be negative consequences due to population size (after all, a large population isn't a bad thing if there are enough resources for everyone), then overpopulation was much much worse in times past.
. As Aunt Josephine says, "kittens must be drowned, I admit, or the world would be overrun". In The Swiss Family Robinson (book, not movie), their dogs have puppies and it said they kept 2 pups "to console the mother dog" and the rest of the puppies "disappeared to that place that all puppies disappear to". The same is true of almost all kids' books written in the 1800s. . .I'm not sure why they felt it was a good idea to reference killing kittens and puppies in kids' books, maybe trying to desensitize and prepare them for the cruel realities of adult life? Or it was just such a part of their daily life that they felt it was no more disturbing than eating dinner?Back in the 70s, when they started to have shelters (I guess they were called pounds back then) report on how many animals they killed, the numbers were well over 20 million (in the US). And that's only the shelters that reported.
Purebred dog people call it "bucketing" or "dunking". I imagine they wouldn't bother making cutesy euphemisms if it wasn't common, or at least used to be.
And, well, I hate to break it to anyone who hasn't figured it out yet, but when parents told kids that a pet "ran away" or "went to live on a farm". . .yeah, no, that wasn't true.
So yeah, it depends on what you consider "overpopulation". If you just mean a lot of cats (or whatever), then, sure, killing a lot of them certainly fixes overpopulation! If you consider "overpopulation" to be negative consequences due to population size (after all, a large population isn't a bad thing if there are enough resources for everyone), then overpopulation was much much worse in times past.
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I'd say it is effective! How many more would there be without it?
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Prior to the mid century, it was pretty uncommon to spay a female and the usual solution was to drown the kittens and puppies. Now that spaying and fixing are commonplace and much safer for the animals, solutions such as drowning are no longer needed or desired.
As far as Australia and the planned massacre, what ever happened to the rabbit problem? Wouldn't colonies of cats help keep rabbit populations in check? I couldn't live with myself if I was part of such a program.
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As far as Australia and the planned massacre, what ever happened to the rabbit problem? Wouldn't colonies of cats help keep rabbit populations in check? I couldn't live with myself if I was part of such a program.
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Austalia is an isolated island with little marsupials, mammals, frogs, reptiles, birds etc found only here that haven't adapted to introduced predators like the European Red Fox and cats. Making native species already under threat from human actions much easier prey than rabbits. I don't recall even hearing of anyone's cats bringing home or catching rabbits.
Even neutered ferals/strays are going to hunt. Are they approaching the issue wrong? Yes but feral cats are a huge problem for the native species found only in Australia.
Even neutered ferals/strays are going to hunt. Are they approaching the issue wrong? Yes but feral cats are a huge problem for the native species found only in Australia.
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Twitter accounts you could contact include:
https://twitter.com/greghuntmp
https://twitter.com/tscommissioner
https://twitter.com/envirogov
Emails include: [email protected]
[email protected]
Greg Hunt can also be contacted through his site: http://www.greghunt.com.au/Contact/ContactGreg.aspx
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https://twitter.com/greghuntmp
https://twitter.com/tscommissioner
https://twitter.com/envirogov
Emails include: [email protected]
[email protected]
Greg Hunt can also be contacted through his site: http://www.greghunt.com.au/Contact/ContactGreg.aspx
