Rescues: are they too picky?

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Our no-kill shelter turns down about 50% of potential adopters. I personally probably turn down closer to 75%. IMO, that's not being too picky given the amount of love, time, money and sometimes heartache we've invested in the cats or kittens (there are very few dogs). We love those animals and want them to have long happy lives with a good "match".

The people most likely to be turned down are those looking for indoor/outdoor cats. The rule of thumb is that people have to live at least 150 meters (164 yards) from a busy street. It's not easy to meet that requirement given the population density in this area. People lie about it all the time, too - they apparently aren't aware that we check out distances using Google Maps, and even if that looks okay, somebody drives to their address and takes a look at traffic, the number of parked cars on their street, whether there's a bus or truck route nearby, the number of dogs being walked, etc.. One very unpleasant aspect of shelter work is having to scan, and sometimes photograph, cats that have been run over by cars so that their owners don't spend weeks, months or years wondering what happened to them. Do that often enough and you're very choosy about location.

Granny's 85 years old and has her heart set on a kitten, or maybe the one-year-old? The 7-year-old is way too old? The daughter/son/niece/grandson will take the cat if she dies? How about if I show you J., E. or T.? They're all senior cats whose owners died and who have poor adoption chances because they have to compete with the cute kittens. It's too bad that the relative who promised to take them wasted no time before dumping them here - no time, not enough room, the new dog attacks cats, etc..

Kids should grow up with pets, I absolutely agree. Your sons and daughters are adorable and boisterous. We've got a number of cats that love the kids who come to visit here and would make great companions for them. Oh, you've fallen in love with the timid little calico who jumps at her own shadow? Sorry.

Your little girls' hearts are going to be broken if they don't get the Golden Retriever? He's great with kids. Who's going to walk him? Oh, your 8 or 10-year-old will be completely responsible for that? It'll be good for them to get the exercise, and you don't have the time yourself? There's just one little problem - I'm 5'6" tall, weigh 123 lbs., have plenty of experience with large dogs up to and including Saint Bernards and Great Danes, take that dog for a walk most mornings, and can barely hold him when he sees a bird, horse, cat, etc.! Sorry.

You're looking for a pair of kittens to be indoor-only cats? Perfect! You live on the third floor and have a balcony - you'll be securing that so that the cats won't fall and get hurt? No? Your last cat never fell or lunged for a passing bird, so it's unnecessary? Sorry. Here's some literature on high-rise syndrome and how to secure a balcony. You're welcome to come back once that's done.

One of your cats died and you'd love to have C. as a companion for your other cat - she looks just like the one that died. The trouble is that C. doesn't get along with other cats at all, but I can show you some other tabbies that do. Oh, it has to be C.? Sorry.

I could go on and on. There are also people who came in looking for an adult "beginners'" cat and ended up with two kittens, the 60-year-old who wanted a certain 10-year-old cat but adopted a 2-year-old because the former rejected her and the latter absolutely wanted to go home with her, the woman who took a pair of semi-feral siblings, figuring the male was friendly and the female needed a home even if she wanted no contact, and ended up with the female following her around the house, sleeping with her, cuddling on her lap every night.
I'm ok with applications. I actually enjoy filling them out in some cases. I remember when adopting Penelopy, one of the questions was "how much do you expect to spend per year on your cat?" I had four choices - $50, 100, 150, 200. I'm someone that probably spent a couple grand on my cats last year (at least) so I found $200 laughable, and $50 insane. I have to wonder what they do with those ones.

Like I said, especially with what the one shelter I know of is going through (and why), I understand their being picky. I was a bit surprised they needed a board vote to adopt to someone with four or more pets. Perhaps they've been burned in that department before. 

I've actually been curious what your reply to this would be, since I know you work in a shelter. It was definitely insightful.
 
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Donutte, those amounts are really funny. I can easily spend $100 per month just on cat food!
 

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I spend close to $200/month if nothing goes wrong. :/ I have two cats and one is on 100% commercial raw. He geta diarrhea on canned and dry. >
 
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Goodness, $200 a year is less than $20 a month. Even with cheap food and litter, I don't see how anyone could keep it that low, vet costs would definitely rule that out. I wonder if it's a trick question---they want people to say "um, I think there's something wrong with this question. . ." :D
 
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Anyway, back to the original post, I had a few additional thoughts. I don't have any problem with rescues and shelters having standards as to whom they will adopt to. That's completely understandable and I was anxious to hear that the adoptive family for my foster kitten would keep her as an indoor only cat, so I certainly understand investing hard in animals and wanting them to go to responsible homes.

On the other hand, I think that rescues should make sure to consider the whole of a person, rather than zeroing in on certain questions and declaring certain answers right or wrong.

My rescue that I foster from certainly could've rejected me as a foster on several counts. I have several pieces of information that are technically black marks.

My indoor cat who never tries to escape only gets rabies shots and no other types of shots. At the time of application, I also had an indoor/outdoor cat. I explained that that was the case because I had tried and had been unable to transition him to indoor only. He now is an "indoor unless he manages to sneak by us" cat. 


I also have a tiny house and not much space at all, really.

However, the foster coordinator had the sense to look at the big picture, rather than disqualify me on small details, and told me that they wanted me to foster for them.They got me a foster a few days later and we've been fostering almost continuously ever since. 

Due to the size and layout of our house and the number of cats that we have, literally every bedroom has a litterbox in it. We have 3 cats most of the time (2 residents and usually have a foster at any given time) and 4 litterboxes in under 900 square feet. I scoop the boxes a minimum of 2x per day and my house smells fine, despite the amount of cats in the square footage.

The point is, that most people are imperfect. There will always be pieces of information about almost anyone that could count against them. Rather than having a "right" or "wrong" answer to each question, rescues and shelters should dialog with people and find out what their story is. There's lots of people who would do fine fostering or adopting an animal who don't have a completely "perfect" record in every way.
 
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crazy4strays crazy4strays It's not "perfect" we look for, but "suitable for that particular animal". The application asks whether people own or rent, and whether they have the landlord's permission if the latter. My husband and I have some rentals and have sometimes been asked to give written permission when our tenants have applied to adopt pets. I find that reasonable. There are boxes to check regarding other pets, ages of any children ,indoor or outdoor and employment status, plus questions like what people intend to do when they're away on vacation, are hospitalized or otherwise incapacitated. They have to show legal ID. Not being employed outside the home isn't going to immediately disqualify anybody. Some pets are unsuitable to be left alone for long hours. The interview is far more important and is done as a "chat" while showing them around and watching them interact with the animals. Part of it is you telling them about the animal(s) they're interested in - likes and dislikes, little quirks, any history you know. It's not 3rd degree.

All shelters are no kill here, and an "unadoptable" animal will have its home there till it dies of old age. Except in the quarantine section, there aren't cages at our shelter. That obviously has an impact on the adoption policy. A large overcrowded shelter with cages is going to be more under pressure to adopt out its inhabitants as soon as possible

There are differences within the shelter, too. I'm there most days of the week and directly involved in day-to-day care, so I know the individuals better than somebody who's only there one or two days a week. I'm far more apt to say I don't believe a certain match will work out (or vice versa). The shelter head always seems to know somebody's boss, neighbor, etc., and has been doing this for so long that sometimes it's the second or third time people have adopted through her. That affects her decisions. None of us want the pet to go through the stress of adjusting to a new home only to be returned.

The shelter doesn't turn over title to the pet until a follow-up is done. That may be because a kitten hasn't been neutered yet, or simply because there's some doubt that the resident pet will accept the new one. Pets with chronic health problems may have "permanent foster" status so that the vet bills are covered by the shelter rather than the adopter. It's not black and white.

The pet's status as a surrender or stray plays a big role. Unless there are definite indications that the animal was abandoned, e.g., witnesses, it's in a box, a "found" animal is held for six weeks before being introduced to the public. According to federal law, the owner has six months to claim the pet, provided he or she pays all expenses incurred. Therefore, the adopter can't be given legal title to the pet till that period has elapsed. Regulations and practices are going to vary according to where the shelter is located, of course, but they exist and are something an adopter has to accept. It has nothing to do with being picky, but following the law.
 
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@Crazy4Strays It's not "perfect" we look for, but "suitable for that particular animal". The application asks whether people own or rent, and whether they have the landlord's permission if the latter. My husband and I have some rentals and have sometimes been asked to give written permission when our tenants have applied to adopt pets. I find that reasonable. There are boxes to check regarding other pets, ages of any children ,indoor or outdoor and employment status, plus questions like what people intend to do when they're away on vacation, are hospitalized or otherwise incapacitated. They have to show legal ID. Not being employed outside the home isn't going to immediately disqualify anybody. Some pets are unsuitable to be left alone for long hours. The interview is far more important and is done as a "chat" while showing them around and watching them interact with the animals. Part of it is you telling them about the animal(s) they're interested in - likes and dislikes, little quirks, any history you know. It's not 3rd degree.

All shelters are no kill here, and an "unadoptable" animal will have its home there till it dies of old age. Except in the quarantine section, there aren't cages at our shelter. That obviously has an impact on the adoption policy. A large overcrowded shelter with cages is going to be more under pressure to adopt out its inhabitants as soon as possible

There are differences within the shelter, too. I'm there most days of the week and directly involved in day-to-day care, so I know the individuals better than somebody who's only there one or two days a week. I'm far more apt to say I don't believe a certain match will work out (or vice versa). The shelter head always seems to know somebody's boss, neighbor, etc., and has been doing this for so long that sometimes it's the second or third time people have adopted through her. That affects her decisions. None of us want the pet to go through the stress of adjusting to a new home only to be returned.

The shelter doesn't turn over title to the pet until a follow-up is done. That may be because a kitten hasn't been neutered yet, or simply because there's some doubt that the resident pet will accept the new one. Pets with chronic health problems may have "permanent foster" status so that the vet bills are covered by the shelter rather than the adopter. It's not black and white.

The pet's status as a surrender or stray plays a big role. Unless there are definite indications that the animal was abandoned, e.g., witnesses, it's in a box, a "found" animal is held for six weeks before being introduced to the public. According to federal law, the owner has six months to claim the pet, provided he or she pays all expenses incurred. Therefore, the adopter can't be given legal title to the pet till that period has elapsed. Regulations and practices are going to vary according to where the shelter is located, of course, but they exist and are something an adopter has to accept. It has nothing to do with being picky, but following the law.
I'm actually surprised how much no one really "interviewed" me so much with Penelopy. I was glad, because I swear I cried almost every time I brought up why I was there (few reasons, but tied back to losing Lucky) and I was actually sick the day I adopted her. In hindsight though, I am really surprised though. I think there were a few things that factored into it, particularly the fact she'd had a recurring cold that she just couldn't shake at the shelter. That's why they adopted her out to me before her even getting spayed or having all her shots. I had to sign paperwork saying I'd have all that done by "x" date, which I understood completely. I had literally gone to visit her just the one time though, but she wasn't feeling well and I didn't want to bother her too much. I had another kitten nearby desperately grabbing at my arm too - it broke my heart. 

Anyway, that was on a Saturday. I emailed on Monday asking how she was doing, and on Tuesday they told me she had just finished her round of antibiotics the day before and was now adoptable. I literally jumped into some clothes and raced over there. And within a couple hours, I'd brought her home. I really didn't talk to anyone that much. I did sign my life away that night (I don't think I signed that much paperwork on the house!), however.

I do keep in contact with the shelter on my own to let her know how she is doing. I imagine they would want to know! I guess adult cats just don't get adopted out as much. I've decided that when the time comes that I want to adopt again, which won't be for awhile hopefully (I want all my kitties to stick around after all!), I'll likely be looking for senior cats to give a home to.
 

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There was no interview when we adopted Eclipse.  Someone sat with me and went over the adoption form but that was it.  Kim and I did sit with Eclipse (then Dumpster Dan) for a couple of hours the day before while he slept in her lap and we were texting and calling DH to see if we could adopt him.  It was a firm 'No".  Got the yes later that evening at home and bought all the cat stuff that night.  I left it in the van until he left the next day.   Had DS take DH to the airport the next day so I could be there when they opened to adopt Eclipse. 

DH was surprised to see a kitten barely bigger than his hand when he got home.  He's like 'I thought you were going to get a real cat.'  I don't think he remembered saying yes to getting the cat. LOL  Turns out he didn't know how to open the texts with pictures we sent him.

When we were fostering Fluffy, a couple people came to see her.  The first one, I was thinking 'This girl is a bad idea."  I sent an email to the rescue with my concerns but they were like we talked about all this it's okay.  I was glad she didn't like Fluffy.  I had soooo many concerns.  Young girl in college, from another country, living with aunt and uncle who had outdoor cats etc.  I wasn't thrilled with the second person either.  The third person sounded like a good fit but took too long to arrange to see her.  I adopted her before they could.

When Jennie was adopted, I felt like it was a good fit.  They wanted a friendly cat who was busy and curious.  She went to a good home where she is loved and spoiled.
 
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When we looked at adopting a couple of years ago it had been a decade since I had kept any type of pet beyond fish. I was shocked at the questionnaires of some local rescues and ended up not really considering them at all. Or boys came from the city shelter and a rescue from the next town over. All we did was fill our forms with our personal info and promise to return them if it didn't work out. The adoption fees were both around $25 because they weren't kittens.
 
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I went and donated a case of canned food to one of the shelters today and petted some of their cats. I was shocked at the less than friendly treatment that we got and will never go back. They never even said "thank you" for the donated food.

If I ever adopt again, I'll stick to rescuing strays or will adopt one of my foster cats. 
 
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