Stray cats getting aggressive!

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So, there's been a male brown tabby cat that I've been feeding pretty much daily since May of this year.   When he first showed up, he looked like a 5-6 month old kitten.   He was VERY wary and he wouldn't even eat in my presence.  It took about 2-3 months for him to eat his canned food on our porch with me standing right there.  But after he got to that point, he started letting me pet him and became more friendly.  He's been pretty much a daily visitor for the past 7 months.   No, I haven't trapped & neutered him yet (I know, I know.....)

Everything was going fine - until a couple weeks ago, this new black & white male stray cat suddenly showed up on our porch.   He's obviously older - and bigger! - than my stray brown tabby.   You guessed it - he is also an intact male.  But he was very friendly from the start - he let me pet him and he rubs up on me, and he always bumrushes the door when I get home from work and tries to run in the house with me!  It's very sad, it seems like he wants a home so very badly (but I am at max capacity with 4 cats - hubby will have a conniption fit if we take in one more - and honestly, I don't really want another cat because with 4 already, it feels like the house is chock full o'cats!)     I'm sure you can predict where this is going - stupidly, because I'm a big ol' softy who'd rather feed a cat than chase it away - I started feeding this new cat up on the porch also.   Perhaps naively, I didn't think it would be a big deal - if the 2 cats happened to show up at the same time, they would each have their own plate of food and wouldn't bother each other - that's what I thought  would happen.    But what's actually happening is the new black & white boy is camped out on our porch literally 24/7.  He is always  right there!!  And when the brown tabby comes up to the porch, they start screaming  at each other!  It sounds like they're going to fight & kill each other.   I will give them each their own plate, but brown tabby only eats a few bites and then runs off.   I feel bad for him because I have been his constant food source for months, now this new guy is here and brown tabby is scared to come up & eat.   I'm worried he will starve himself.  

I've started the process of calling around local rescues to see if anyone will take the black & white boy, but of course, it's winter and they are all full.   Fortunately, it's been in the 50s in Ohio up until this week - it's just starting to get down into the 30s/40s.  I was going to build each cat their own Rubbermaid winter shelter on the porch, but now I think brown tabby will be too scared to come up onto the porch to use the box shelter I build for him if black/white cat is also up there.     I know it's a little late, but even if I could trap them both & neuter them, is that any guarantee that they won't still fight each other?

I could put brown tabby's winter shelter out back of the house, but there is no covered area back there (like how the porch is covered) so I'm not sure if he would be as warm as he would on the porch.  But I guess it is better than nothing.    Any ideas on how to make these 2 get along on the porch, or is that asking the impossible?   I feel bad for them both, but especially brown tabby - I feel like I have let down an old friend 
 

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Jolie, That is quite the conundrum.  I will be reading the replies to see what advice people give.  Tom
 

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I know you know this but first thing that needs to be done for both these guys is neutering.  It is the only thing that will calm them down and make them less territorial, which will definitely help with the fighting.

Is there a possibility that you can erect a dog kennel, so your resident tabby can have a safe place, away from the newcomer?  All his needs can be placed inside.  The top and sides will have to be secured with wire but it's a cost-effective way to secure him his own place.

A garage or shed can also work.  We ended up building an enclosure around a small shed for one neighborhood stray.  He has a companion now, only because neighbors moved away and abandoned their cat.  But since these two have been in the enclosure, we have had no other cats coming into the yard.  I used to have five or six a year!

Thank you for helping them!
 
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Well, my house kind of sucks in that regard.   We have a covered porch, but we do not have a garage or a shed out back.  Actually, we don't even have a fence around our backyard, it's just open.......... I would just have to set brown tabby's Rubbermaid box out back, next to the house, set up off the ground a bit with blocks or 2x4's........

I'm sure I could get black/white guy into a carrier and get him neutered.  He's really so friendly, he must have been recently abandoned or dumped.  He wants to come inside so badly, I feel like a real jerk every time I open the door to my house, coming or going, and have to scoot by him - he always  tries to come in whenever the door is opened!  I feel like he's just hanging out, hoping my icy heart will thaw 
  I don't know if I can easily trap brown tabby - I tried once, and failed, so I feel like he knows what the trap looks like and he won't fall for it.   I guess if I could at least get the new guy neutered, that might de-escalate the situation?
 

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Neutering one probably won't help as the un-neutered one will then most likely try to chase the neutered one off.

I agree with Zed Xyzed. If you could find the newbie a home, it will help both him and the tabby.

Is there any organization near you that can lend you a drop trap? They usually work well with trap savvy cats.

Otherwise, start feeding him in a humane trap that you've tied open. Feed in the trap only. He'll eventually get hungry enough and go in. Once he's used to going in, you can make the appointment and set the trap to catch him.
 
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Yeah, I figured just one neutering wouldn't be good enough, it never is, huh?? 


I called around to some more rescues, but literally not one place answered the phone!  I left messages though.

Someone please tell me if this is a messed-up idea:  I know it's hard to get rescues to accept new cats - they always say they are full - but I follow several rescue groups on FB, and it seems like if you just bring a cat up there without calling first, they will ofen take the cat (I know this from reading some of their posts) but if you call & ask them, they'll just tell you they are ful and "do you want to put him on the waiting list?" etc....l.   Would it be rude & messed up to just cart the black & white cat up to a rescue without calling them first?  Do the rescue folks consider that rude?  Will it be more likely they will take the cat if I just take him up there without asking anyone first?   There are a bunch of cat rescues here, but when I call, they either don't answer or they just tell me no they can't take him.    I wouldn't be a total jerk and just abandon the cat in carrier outside their door - I would take him inside and talk to someone, I just want to know if yall think I would have better luck w/them that way......

I won't take him to the county shelter - in all honesty, he probably wouldn't get adopted in time to save him from being euthanized, even though he is really cool & friendly, he's obviously an adult & most people want kittens....if no rescue will take him, and I can't find a friend/co-worker to give him a home, I guess he will just be our neutered porch cat 
  

Also - this may be a dumb question - is a "drop trap" the wire trap that's like spring activated to close when the cat walks in through the door?  I think my neighbor has one - he caught a possum with it a few months ago, so if that would work with a cat, I can give it a shot.
 

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If you think there's a better chance of you finding him a home, I'd try that first.  Rescues are so overwhelmed, although some of them don't try hard enough, IMHO.  Dropping in on them might work but it won't make you any points.  And you NEVER know when you might need them.

The humane trap is the one you describe.  That's the one you can begin by tying open and feeding him in it.

The drop trap is basically a big box held up with a stick that has a string attached to it.  Once the cat goes under the trap to eat, someone pulls the string and the trap drops onto the cat.  The newest ones have a floor that locks once the trap drops onto it.  They are available on Amazon.  A little pricey but it can be donated to the shelter after you use it.  Might make some points there.  


Make sure you wash the trap well with a good enzyme cleaner before setting it out for the tabby.  Anything that was trapped in it previously most likely left a "fright" smell on it.
 
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