Adventures in pilling a cat

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And now, hoping I don't wake up to hearing her puke like I did this morning. I swear, that wakes me up faster than anything right now. And these last few days have brought back some horrible memories of the beginning an almost 3-week period of time that was just awful. The paranoia is still there I'm afraid.
I so know what you are talking about.  Nearly 3 months ago, Hekitty had a bout with pancreatitis.  I still get edgy if she look cross-eyes.  Paranoia abounds when our furbabies are sick.  Yesterday she yakked a hairball...just a plain old hairball (from all the overgrooming due to the now-dead fleas...and I spent 15 minutes examining the nasty wretched thing for signs of excess bile.  Someday, I'll relax again.  Like, maybe, a year or three.
 
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I so know what you are talking about.  Nearly 3 months ago, Hekitty had a bout with pancreatitis.  I still get edgy if she look cross-eyes.  Paranoia abounds when our furbabies are sick.  Yesterday she yakked a hairball...just a plain old hairball (from all the overgrooming due to the now-dead fleas...and I spent 15 minutes examining the nasty wretched thing for signs of excess bile.  Someday, I'll relax again.  Like, maybe, a year or three.
Woke up the morning of October 23rd (a Friday) to hear a cat puking. I'm used to two times - the rule is they always puke twice and always in different spots. But then the third time? I got up and it was Lucky that puked! He never pukes. The evening, he was growling at the kittens. Then I petted him to calm him down and picked him up, like I always did. And he growled at ME. He never, ever did that before. Then Sunday was the day I decided he'd be going to the vet on Monday - he wouldn't take his pill pocket, and he LOVED those things. 

So, that particular combination of things happening again definitely had me freaking out. 
 

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Woke up the morning of October 23rd (a Friday) to hear a cat puking. I'm used to two times - the rule is they always puke twice and always in different spots. But then the third time? I got up and it was Lucky that puked! He never pukes. The evening, he was growling at the kittens. Then I petted him to calm him down and picked him up, like I always did. And he growled at ME. He never, ever did that before. Then Sunday was the day I decided he'd be going to the vet on Monday - he wouldn't take his pill pocket, and he LOVED those things. 

So, that particular combination of things happening again definitely had me freaking out. 
GOOD GRIEF!  I'm putting you and your fourfoot family on my candle list for healing.  Let me know when all is better!
 

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Be careful if you do the toss the pill and and hold the mouth shut trick. I used to do it without squirting in any water or anything (that's how my vet showed me!!), and just learned recently that if you don't give them something to wash it down, there's a really good chance they'll just sit in the throat, hurting and tasting bad. From catinfo:

"After 5 minutes 84% of capsules and 64% of tablets are still sitting in the esophagus."
http://catinfo.org/?link=pillingcats

Treats work too, for getting them knocked down into the stomach, if you can't get water in. And I have a lot easier time if I slather the pill in butter first. Maybe because I'm not sticking it in far enough, but without butter I have about a 50/50 chance the pill (gelatin capsule type) will start dissolving and get all sticky before it gets washed down and come back out instead.
 

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Are you giving subQ fluids yet?  If so, have you considered injectible famatodine(aka Pepcid AC)  It is available at Thriving Pets.  Also available are injectible Cerenia and Ondansetron, if your kitty needs anti-nausea meds. 
 
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Are you giving subQ fluids yet?  If so, have you considered injectible famatodine(aka Pepcid AC)  It is available at Thriving Pets.  Also available are injectible Cerenia and Ondansetron, if your kitty needs anti-nausea meds. 
Not quite at the point where we need subqs yet with Sara. I actually HAVE injectable famotidine but not sure on the dosing for that. Plus I don't have syringes with needles. I do still have three pre-filled Cerenia syringes, never quite had the opportunity to use them all with Lucky, was very tempted to use it, but again, didn't know how much. PLUS the stinging aspect of it. 

If I hadn't been able to get her to eat anything later in the day, I definitely would have brought her in for a Cerenia shot.
 
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Be careful if you do the toss the pill and and hold the mouth shut trick. I used to do it without squirting in any water or anything (that's how my vet showed me!!), and just learned recently that if you don't give them something to wash it down, there's a really good chance they'll just sit in the throat, hurting and tasting bad. From catinfo:

"After 5 minutes 84% of capsules and 64% of tablets are still sitting in the esophagus."
http://catinfo.org/?link=pillingcats

Treats work too, for getting them knocked down into the stomach, if you can't get water in. And I have a lot easier time if I slather the pill in butter first. Maybe because I'm not sticking it in far enough, but without butter I have about a 50/50 chance the pill (gelatin capsule type) will start dissolving and get all sticky before it gets washed down and come back out instead.
My pill popper holds water in it so you can shoot that in right after popping the pill in. I won't use the gelcap without the popper. And I definitely butter it. 
 

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When I injected Cerenia through the injection port on the subq tubing, my cat didn't even notice. Your cat's reaction might not be as bad as you think.

I should find one of those pill guns. Now that it looks like I'm going to have to be pilling regularly....
 
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When I injected Cerenia through the injection port on the subq tubing, my cat didn't even notice. Your cat's reaction might not be as bad as you think.

I should find one of those pill guns. Now that it looks like I'm going to have to be pilling regularly....
Sara isn't on subqs yet. When Lucky was on subqs, I was told to inject it into the "bubble" after doing the subqs instead of the port, not 100% sure why (I think to ensure there are no leftovers in the line to sting? not sure). And he didn't notice a thing so yeah, definitely know it's not bad with subqs. 

However, without subqs... 

I'm still terrified every time I use the pill popper. I've only used it a few times, so sure that has something to do with it. They just swallow it so fast, and I'm expecting all kinds of gagging, but there isn't. I got it though after Lucky bit me pretty deep. 
 

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Have you tried both flavors of pill pockets? My Chessy used to like the chicken ones but then he stopped eating those and now he really likes the salmon ones.

Also before I tried the salmon pill pockets, I found a treat that is kind of soft that can be wrapped around a pepcid pill with a drop or two of water - Blue Wilderness soft-moist cat treats. Might be worth a try.
 
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I have both flavors in stock because they (well, more Lucky than Sara) used to get bored, so I'd switch between the two. I'm just in the habit of it now so that's what I do. Sara seems to like both.

Sara seems much more willing nowadays to take her pill pocket, thankfully. Took awhile to get her back to normal this week. Just a reminder that it doesn't take much to make us go down THAT path that we don't really want to be going down.
 

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Ok, gotta ask, what's the pepcid for? In my head antacid, but don't know how a cat would express heartburn. Is it for nausea?
 
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Ok, gotta ask, what's the pepcid for? In my head antacid, but don't know how a cat would express heartburn. Is it for nausea?
It's used for hyperacidity in cats, which can causing vomiting (particularly foamy vomit) and can also cause nausea. Pepcid or similar drugs (like omeprazole) are often part of the treatment regimen for cats with chronic kidney disease, as well as other issues.
 
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