My Cat Kitten was blinded because of a bad veternarian overdosing her with Baytril

kittens mom · Jan 26, 2016

Tallyollyopia said:
Yes. I'm sorry, around here if a doctor (or vet) screws up royally like that the paperwork "disappears" beyond recovery. I'm glad that you have paper proof that allows you to prove your claim without having to resort to the remains of Kitten, and I'm sorry for your loss. I hope you manage to shake the vet into realizing that she should be more diligent and responsible when it comes to caring for pets.

I have the Rx bottles labeled Baytril but they contain the generic version made by Putney. Both 68 mg . I verified this through Putney. It's also on my receipt from the vet. I suspect that Kittens chart notes have be rewritten more than the bible by this vet at this point. If we didn't have proof there is no way we would inflict this on ourselves.

We actually considered the Social Media Career Assassination route. We just don't see how that respects the memory of our little girl. We decided to stay true to ourselves and pursue this the best we could through a legal system that is about 50 years behind in animal rights.

Thank you. I listen to everyone and while it's therapeutic on some levels to share this I also want to encourage pet owners who face a similar dilemma to act and to know where to start. Most legal sites clearly state the way the law is written you will not get a lawyer to work on a percentage. We were handed the evidence for what happened to us on a silver platter.

tallyollyopia · Jan 27, 2016

Kittens Mom said:
I have the Rx bottles labeled Baytril but they contain the generic version made by Putney. Both 68 mg . I verified this through Putney. It's also on my receipt from the vet. I suspect that Kittens chart notes have be rewritten more than the bible by this vet at this point. If we didn't have proof there is no way we would inflict this on ourselves.

We actually considered the Social Media Career Assassination route. We just don't see how that respects the memory of our little girl. We decided to stay true to ourselves and pursue this the best we could through a legal system that is about 50 years behind in animal rights.

Thank you. I listen to everyone and while it's therapeutic on some levels to share this I also want to encourage pet owners who face a similar dilemma to act and to know where to start. Most legal sites clearly state the way the law is written you will not get a lawyer to work on a percentage. We were handed the evidence for what happened to us on a silver platter.

If the legal route fails, you may want to go the career assassination route. It doesn't sound like the woman should be allowed to practice veterinary medicine. Another thing that might help, though I don't know if it will, is contacting the vet's other patients and seeing if there's a clear pattern of behavior. It may help with the courtcase, and I think you're right at this point; I think Kitten's medical records has been rewritten more than the Bible.

kittens mom · Jan 27, 2016

Tallyollyopia said:
If the legal route fails, you may want to go the career assassination route. It doesn't sound like the woman should be allowed to practice veterinary medicine. Another thing that might help, though I don't know if it will, is contacting the vet's other patients and seeing if there's a clear pattern of behavior. It may help with the courtcase, and I think you're right at this point; I think Kitten's medical records has been rewritten more than the Bible.

We considered doing an ad in the local paper. The trouble is you reel in more nuts than fish. Being unhappy with the results of a vet visit or the cost are not the same as malpractice. She can rewrite the records all she wants. Sadly for she gave us a receipt and we have the Rx bottles that would only make her look worse. We were also very proactive in taking Kitten to the ER and they noted the overdose. So did the ASPCA poison control hotline as well as the specialist Kitten seen less than a week after. Whose report clearly addresses the importance of using the correct dosing guidelines for cats. This isn't a rocket science case. I personally have no idea why she wants to air this smelly pile of laundry in public. I haven't reported her to Bayer yet for selling generic drugs labeled with their trademarked name. The staff veterinarian I spoke to on the phone for the other manufacturer was none to pleased over these shenanigans.

Again. We really don't want to have to be bothered with this nonsense and hopes she settles. But we are not going to let Kitten and what happened to her get kicked under the rug either. Considering we had to have her served at her place of business to force a response in 20 days speaks volumes.

There is a cat/smaller animal dose made. She also failed to give any warnings about the possible side effects. I beat myself up daily for not looking it up. But even then it says blindness is a very rare side effect and I don't know that the miscalculated dose would have clicked with me. Being up with a sick cat for days on end takes it out of you. We thought she got adequate treatment. The fact we are so much more educated now is because of what we went though. All we cared about at the time was getting Kitten better. She had never been sick a day in her life until then. We weren't focused on second guessing the vet.

tallyollyopia · Jan 28, 2016

Kittens Mom said:
We considered doing an ad in the local paper. The trouble is you reel in more nuts than fish. Being unhappy with the results of a vet visit or the cost are not the same as malpractice. She can rewrite the records all she wants. Sadly for she gave us a receipt and we have the Rx bottles that would only make her look worse. We were also very proactive in taking Kitten to the ER and they noted the overdose. So did the ASPCA poison control hotline as well as the specialist Kitten seen less than a week after. Whose report clearly addresses the importance of using the correct dosing guidelines for cats. This isn't a rocket science case. I personally have no idea why she wants to air this smelly pile of laundry in public. I haven't reported her to Bayer yet for selling generic drugs labeled with their trademarked name. The staff veterinarian I spoke to on the phone for the other manufacturer was none to pleased over these shenanigans.

Again. We really don't want to have to be bothered with this nonsense and hopes she settles. But we are not going to let Kitten and what happened to her get kicked under the rug either. Considering we had to have her served at her place of business to force a response in 20 days speaks volumes.

There is a cat/smaller animal dose made. She also failed to give any warnings about the possible side effects. I beat myself up daily for not looking it up. But even then it says blindness is a very rare side effect and I don't know that the miscalculated dose would have clicked with me. Being up with a sick cat for days on end takes it out of you. We thought she got adequate treatment. The fact we are so much more educated now is because of what we went though. All we cared about at the time was getting Kitten better. She had never been sick a day in her life until then. We weren't focused on second guessing the vet.

I'm sorry. I hope the battle comes to a conclusion sooner than later, for all your sakes.

zed xyzed · Jan 28, 2016

@kittensmom

I have to say you are a bigger person than me. If this happened to Midi I would be baying for blood. Like the above poster said I hope that you can put this behind you soon.

kittens mom · Jan 28, 2016

Zed Xyzed said:
@kittensmom

I have to say you are a bigger person than me. If this happened to Midi I would be baying for blood. Like the above poster said I hope that you can put this behind you soon.

My husband thoroughly dissuaded me from using a trebuchet to launch a fiery gas bomb through the plate glass window in the front of her clinic. And I have bayed for blood. And then resorted to reason. I doubt we could sue her for Kittens death. We knowingly destroyed any evidence when we chose to cremate her and bring her home. It came down to what we wanted more. Her head on a platter and our dear little girl sliced up and held as evidence because at that point you are beyond a small claims court. Or for her to just be home and know we had her. We'll settle for a pound of flesh. Remember we turned all of her records over to the SVB and accused her of being responsible for her death.

morganalefae · Jan 28, 2016

I hope she gets punished no vet should do this! and Im very sorry for your loss.

I had a vet back in the usa tell me all the pups I & my mother were caring for had parvo and had use give them some liquid med and to use the saline stuff they give to deyhdrated animals i.e I had to insert a needle into them and give them so much. 2 out of 5 died and was told by another vet they did not have parvo nor did they smell of it. a few years later when I got a little chihuahua from a friend I had no choice but to book in with the vet for her first shots only to be told I needed to pay them like $400 for the pups that were treated years ago the real kicker is my mother is the one that was the owner and listed as the payer but they wanted me to pay her so called bill that was already paid before they would look at my pup. I told them that I'm not my mother and that this matter was between them and her not them and me I was refused vet service and as I was leaving they said good luck its parvo season I hope your puppy don't get it!

sad part is they are still open and who knows how many old people they have scamed out of money! Bad vets seem to be every place these days

kittens mom · Jan 28, 2016

Morganalefae said:
I hope she gets punished no vet should do this! and Im very sorry for your loss.

I had a vet back in the usa tell me all the pups I & my mother were caring for had parvo and had use give them some liquid med and to use the saline stuff they give to deyhdrated animals i.e I had to insert a needle into them and give them so much. 2 out of 5 died and was told by another vet they did not have parvo nor did they smell of it. a few years later when I got a little chihuahua from a friend I had no choice but to book in with the vet for her first shots only to be told I needed to pay them like $400 for the pups that were treated years ago the real kicker is my mother is the one that was the owner and listed as the payer but they wanted me to pay her so called bill that was already paid before they would look at my pup. I told them that I'm not my mother and that this matter was between them and her not them and me I was refused vet service and as I was leaving they said good luck its parvo season I hope your puppy don't get it!

sad part is they are still open and who knows how many old people they have scamed out of money! Bad vets seem to be every place these days

The vets who tried to save Kitten have my eternal respect and gratitude. There was not one person there that didn't help us, answer all our questions and treat our poor little cat with respect. We lost but they went above and beyond in trying. My new vet at the VCA is a dream for us. She's like the fairy tale vet , I swear she sparkles. http://www.vcahospitals.com/veterinary-care/our-team/veterinarians/dawn-s-nolan/21196

We left another clinic because of more than one dog incident in the lobby and a vet tech who copped an tude. We had to tell her twice to shut the door when she wanted Kitten uncrated, Ask three times to scan and make sure her chip was in place and then she iced the cake by grabbing at her to scruff and getting her in the middle of the back. 10 years of good will went out the window when I noticed that they charged me for something that didn't get done. Keep in mind I told them she freaks out on metal tables. And she did. Of course that led to the vet from hell. Her office reeks of a James Herriot book country vet. You feel warm and safe. Such a sweet harmless woman. NOT.

On the whole most vets are good. All vets will make mistakes. Good vets make them as right as possible. They don't make grieving people go to court and rehash the event.

As to a vet tech or anyone making a comment like they did to you. You can leave reviews at places like the BBB, Yelp, Yellow pages and a few other fun sites. Be thankful you didn't do business with them. They could then use your information to ding your credit report of sic a collection agency on you.

All in all I've only encountered one other vet that was such a jerk we took our pet and left. I mean left. Didn't pay for the exam, Just walked out the door. We never heard from them. I believe my parting words when the front asked me to pay were Bite Me. On the whole vets want to help animals despite their owners sometimes.

I can't help but wonder how many pets the vet that blinded and is most likely responsible for killing our little girl had damaged or killed.

I am thankful for vets like Dr. Nolan who on top of taking us on as clients understands how shook up we are.

kittens mom · Feb 6, 2016

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Feb 6, 2016

from the lawyers of the vet from hell. I just wanted to share what it's like to have your companion animal blinded and then have the vet who make the mistake blame the pet owners for following her instructions. She overdosed our Kitten and now seeks to say it's our fault. It goes on to state we did nothing to mitigate the damages. Uh duh. I guess racing to the ER at 3AM with Kitten to Albuquerque doesn't count. This is the vet I handed my fluffy little Kitten over to when she was sick. She overdosed her. Failed to treat a condition with her eyes ( conjunctivitis ) that any reasonable vet would have addressed. And now instead of just settling this we're going to have to dig in and listen to her blame us.

margd · Feb 6, 2016

Oh, for crying out loud.

That's the most ridiculous response under the circumstances, I can imagine.

Did the vet or her attorney even read your complaint? She gave you the wrong dosage and you have the paperwork showing that - from her own office. You took Kitten in for help immediately and have the vet records to prove it. The lawyer is just making stuff up out of whole cloth.

I'm frustrated and it's not even my case!

I suggest you amend your complaint to cover the cost of the valium it will take for you and husband to get through this time consuming, infuriating farce.

kittens mom · Feb 6, 2016

Margd said:
Oh, for crying out loud.

That's the most ridiculous response under the circumstances, I can imagine.

  Did the vet or her attorney even read your complaint? She gave you the wrong dosage and you have the paperwork showing that - from her own office. You took Kitten in for help immediately and have the vet records to prove it. The lawyer is just making stuff up out of whole cloth.

  I'm frustrated and it's not even my case!



I suggest you amend your complaint to cover the cost of the valium it will take for you and husband to get through this time consuming, infuriating farce.

I had to read it a number of times. If she keeps it up we might see if we can amend it to cover the cost of a lawyer for this nonsense. I plan on forwarding this to the SVB as well. BTW there is not antidote or treatment for an enrofloxacin overdose. You stop giving the drug. The vet and attorney are fully aware of the facts. It was followed by a request to dismiss the claim and make us pay her lawyer costs.

It's easy you don't give 68 mg of enrofloxacin to a 13lb. 8 oz cat.

We're not fighting for money. It's just the method to get this heard. She's a pitiful human being pretending to be this caring earthy person.

I don't know what happed that day in her office for things to go so sideways . On the exam level it was very straightforward with Kitten cooperating. There were no other patients in the waiting room. All we know is the end result of their malfunction.

margd · Feb 6, 2016

Originally Posted by Kittens Mom

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It was followed by a request to dismiss the claim and make us pay her lawyer costs.

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I see this vet believes in adding insult to injury. She's extremely lucky you've been so reasonable up to this point. Jeez. I am SO sorry you're going through this.

kittens mom · Feb 6, 2016

Margd said:
I see this vet believes in adding insult to injury. She's extremely lucky you've been so reasonable up to this point. Jeez. I am SO sorry you're going through this.

I'm not offended . I think in reality most of the response was pretty standard. If she wants to spend money on a lawyer fine. We haven't felt the need but may reconsider. Game playing isn't going to make this go away. And we know that we can't sue for Kittens blindness. But we can sue for the vet bills and surrounding costs because of her mistake.

handsome kitty · Feb 6, 2016

I still think you should let Bayer know she is using their name to distribute generic drugs.

I'm not surprised she went to denial. Frustrating for you but she is going to deny until a higher up tells her she is wrong. And even then she may not acknowledge her wrong doing.

kittens mom · Feb 6, 2016

Handsome Kitty said:
I still think you should let Bayer know she is using their name to distribute generic drugs.

I'm not surprised she went to denial. Frustrating for you but she is going to deny until a higher up tells her she is wrong. And even then she may not acknowledge her wrong doing.

Oh I'm getting around to the Bayer issue. I'm a bad joke teller. My husband used to tell one about some farmers and a pig. Lots of stuff in between and the pig have fewer and fewer legs. The punch line was something along the line of you don't eat a pig this good all at once. Horrible joke.

tallyollyopia · Feb 6, 2016

This just occurred to me; is the documentation you have the original, or photocopies? Everyone claims that photocopies can easily be faked (I have no idea how), and it could become a he said/she said battle. Be careful, and just in case the vet (or her lawyer) is really scrupulous, you might want to put the documents in a bank box.

kittens mom · Feb 7, 2016

Tallyollyopia said:
This just occurred to me; is the documentation you have the original, or photocopies? Everyone claims that photocopies can easily be faked (I have no idea how), and it could become a he said/she said battle. Be careful, and just in case the vet (or her lawyer) is really scrupulous, you might want to put the documents in a bank box.

I have the physical Rx bottle with the dose she prescribed clearly marked on the bottle. For Kitten. And she is the veterinarian listed on the bottle. And yes I have the original printout from the visit listing 68 mg of enrofloxacin . I have the ER visit. The vet from the ASPCA pet poison control and an veterinary ophthalmologist who did an in depth exam of her eyes a week later. soonest we could get in and noted the retinal damage along with the need to make sure that no more than 5mg of enrofloxacin should not be used to avoid this kind of complication. And a follow up with that vet two weeks later where the progression of blindness had not progressed once the overdose was stopped.

This vet can go pound sand.

These same documents. copies are in the hands of the state veterinary board. All invoices from this vet are numbered.

Even knowing what we know I would not bother to pursue this in any court unless I felt we had overwhelming evidence of her misdeed.

Let her show up with something that states differently.

She has now accused us of causing Kitten's blindness and not doing anything to mitigate it.

We contacted Putney to confirm the pills in the bottle that were clearly not Baytril but a generic did come from them and were their 68 mg version of that drug.

I have no idea what she thinks her defense is to this. I hope I don't puke listening to it.

Our cat had an obvious bad reaction to the overdose. She is responsible for the vet bills incurred. BTW I called her line at 2AM or so because I thought it might be a home line or switch to it. Her message advised if there was an ER to take our pet to a VCA. The phone number to the one she listed was further away and we literally stumbled on the one we're using while driving down that same street. They are a chain. So you see from start to finish in this debacle we respected the VCPR. Followed the treatment plan and when there was an ER we responded in a more than reasonable time considering where we live and how far we had to drive.

https://www.avma.org/KB/Resources/Reference/Pages/VCPR.aspx

donutte · Feb 7, 2016

Wow, your vet has some cajones, that's pretty much all I can say. To say you are to blame for following her instructions? Just, wow.

I guess she expects all of her clients to have veterinary experience and be able to tell when she is giving an overdose all on their own.

kittens mom · Feb 7, 2016

Donutte said:
Wow, your vet has some cajones, that's pretty much all I can say. To say you are to blame for following her instructions? Just, wow.

I guess she expects all of her clients to have veterinary experience and be able to tell when she is giving an overdose all on their own.

Makes me wonder why I need a vet. I should just diagnose and buy drugs under the table and skip the middle man.

foxxycat · Feb 7, 2016

I just started reading your journey through hell. I still can NOT believe this ignorant VET!!!

I hope you get some kind of justice SOON!!!

And I am so sorry for your loss. There are lots of jerks out there who call themselves doctors but no nothing. And its very frustrating when you are limited to what can be done as time runs out as you try to treat whatever illness you guess is going on. ANd vets then cop an attitude or say something rude. I so far have had to switch vets several times due to them always pushing Hills Diet garbage and trying to tell me to feed my senior girl low protein when she has lost muscle mass in her legs. So I found another place but they are expensive but open to anything I ask. ANd for now--its working.

I so hope you get justice. And I cant believe how stupid people are now adays..

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