cat still in labor, ran away!

My kitty Abigail just had three kittens and just leftvout of my back door! Its broken and sometimes doesnt shut all of the way. Im pretty sure she still has kittens in her belly but i cant find her anywhere! if got the three here nestled on a wrapped up heating pad. What should i do?!

Read the advice about newborn kitten care here until someone can help: http://www.thecatsite.com/t/299954/kitten-birth-cats-first-litter

Get some KMR, powder form is best.  We have been recommending Pet Ag brand, but Royal Canin has a good brand as well.  Avoid Hartz and Seargents as they are inconsistent.   You will also need bottles and small 1- 2 ml needleless syringes.  You can get this at any pet store, vet or walmart.  You will also want to get a scale.

The kittens will need to be fed every 1-2 hours around the clock.  Tummy down, head up, like when they lay and nurse at mom.  You will also need to burp them and help them pee and poop.  You can use a warm damp wash cloth and stroke down their belly, then tap with your index finger until they go.

I'm not sure how you will find the mom, unless she comes back.

Keep us updated and ask any questions you have on this thread.

Alright i went and got all of the feeding stuff. Mommy came back. We now have six adorable babies. But now shes decided she wants to kill them. At first i thought she was just going to try and put them somewhere else but then she got all vicious.
How long do i need to help them pee and poop for? And what if they dont go? Just got done feeding, burping and rubbing their bottoms with a slightly damp cotton ball.

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Alright i went and got all of the feeding stuff. Mommy came back. We now have six adorable babies. But now shes decided she wants to kill them. At first i thought she was just going to try and put them somewhere else but then she got all vicious.
How long do i need to help them pee and poop for? And what if they dont go? Just got done feeding, burping and rubbing their bottoms with a slightly damp cotton ball.

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ah, so you now have 6 - and you dont dare to let mom help out, if she is dangerous to them...  That is not that common - she perhaps feels high stressed?

Hopefully she will calm down...

Moms care is usually the best.

What you have done so far seems good and perfectly adequate.

What kmr did you found?

If they proceed with dont poop and pee, we will talk later - there are tricks.

But the most common for them to get  constipated is they are somewhat dehydrated, so either give some extra drops of water between the feedings, or dilute the kmr / goat milk some.

Its quite common fosterers need to dilute the kmr some. Not so common they need to dilute goat milk - but yes, it has happened.

Should i try letting momma get back to them? I dont want any of get hurt.

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Should i try letting momma get back to them? I dont want any of get hurt.

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Yes, WHAT exactly did she do?  If she wanted to hurt them for real, they would be visibly wounded, it takes just seconds, there is tremendous strenght in their bite!

Please tell exactly what happened.   I suspect, whatever it was, it wasnt that serious, if nobody has any real damages...

And if so, yes, its worth the try to let them reunit.

Make sure the mom is unstressed, you do superwise of course, but if everything seems OK, consider strongly a reunion.

Tried. She attacked one kitten and when i got it away she attacked another one. She goes in there looking all sketchy, walking slow with her ears down and then starts biting one of them

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Tried. She attacked one kitten and when i got it away she attacked another one. She goes in there looking all sketchy, walking slow with her ears down and then starts biting one of them

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I understand she is apparenlty high strung and on her watch - but DID she get hold on them?  ARE they hurt?

If she get hold on them, and they arent hurt, it was prob NOT real attacks.  Exactly what, I dont know, but if she attacked for real, they would be hurt for real.

Anyway, if you do have got a good kmr / goat milk, its probably wise to play it safe and nurse them yourself.  Even if it were good if they got the colostrum from her...

Another option, a little difficult, is if you hold her and restrain (does she allows you to hold her?) lovingly as far you can, and  set the kittens to nurse on her..

Kittens nursing actively on her will help to set free the mommy hormones..

sweetshadow04 said:

Alright i went and got all of the feeding stuff. Mommy came back. We now have six adorable babies. But now shes decided she wants to kill them. At first i thought she was just going to try and put them somewhere else but then she got all vicious.
How long do i need to help them pee and poop for? And what if they dont go? Just got done feeding, burping and rubbing their bottoms with a slightly damp cotton ball.

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Did she bring the babies in, or did you found the family, and did bring in the babies??

Are these she "attacks" random, or is there some system in it??

Im using this recipe until i can go get some kmr tonight.

There are no punctures or anything that i can find on the kittens but they were screeching horribley
till i got them out of her mouth.

Mommy is really lovey with us and will let us pick her up but if we put the kittens to her belly she freaks out and wont be restrained. Im wondering if she may not produce enough milk. Her nipples are really tiny.

*10 oz. (1 1/4 cup) of goat’s milk
*1 cup of plain whole (NOT low or non-fat) yogurt.
*1-2 tsp light Karo syrup
*1 egg yolk

You can just use the goat's milk if it is full fat.

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*10 oz. (1 1/4 cup) of goat’s milk
*1 cup of plain whole (NOT low or non-fat) yogurt.
*1-2 tsp light Karo syrup
*1 egg yolk

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That is a very good gloap recipe, but as Handsome says, you can use the goat milk as it is, esp if its full fat.

If it is some diet fat reduced, you can add this egg yolk,  or go on with the whole glop, its OK.

sweetshadow04 said:

Im using this recipe until i can go get some kmr tonight.

There are no punctures or anything that i can find on the kittens but they were screeching horribley
till i got them out of her mouth.

Mommy is really lovey with us and will let us pick her up but if we put the kittens to her belly she freaks out and wont be restrained. Im wondering if she may not produce enough milk. Her nipples are really tiny.

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It may be so the hormones hadnt got in fully yet, not the maternity hormone, and thus, not the milk causing hormones either...

The good news is, whatever she is doing, she isnt  NOT trying to kill them.   Possibly its a very clumsy try to transport them.  If she took a proper grip on the neck, they would go limp and probably not screetch nor protest, so she maybe tries to transport them, but takes the grip wrongly....

Or possibly she doesnt really realizes they are just small babies, so she tries to teach them to behave...

If you have a good pet shop / vet, and aside to a good goat milk / good kmr, get the probiotic BeneBac, made by PetAg.   This probiotic is made especially for small kittens, and does contain a colostrum alike fluid.   No real antibodies which they can get only from a mom, but at least all the good " chemicals."

Ill check it out yall have been a lot of help, thank you. The babies seem like theyre doing pretty good so far. Sleeping a lot and really strong for what ive seen of newborn kittens before.

Good news! Abigail was laying with us all content while i was bottle feeding the babies. So i tried puting one on her teet. Only did three kittens at a time after no incident with the first one. Dont want to overwhelm her. Shes letting them suckle but not interacting more then that yet. But its a start right?!

Yes, good news!   If she isn't cleaning them you'll need to and also help them pee and poop.

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Good news! Abigail was laying with us all content while i was bottle feeding the babies. So i tried puting one on her teet. Only did three kittens at a time after no incident with the first one. Dont want to overwhelm her. Shes letting them suckle but not interacting more then that yet. But its a start right?!

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Its very good news!

But here is one Aber possible - now when they have began to suckle on mom, it may be so they will be reluctant for the bottle.  Not because they arent hungry, but  bottle isnt mom.

So its possible you will need to use a syringe instead.

If you do, the same position as with mom, on the tummy, head up - body may be a little diagonally up. In the corner of the mouth, slowly a few drops at a time.  How much and how quickly depends in part on how actively they swallow.  With healthy kittens who swallow actively, it can go fairly quick.  With weak ones barely swallowing it takes time and patience.