Obese cat, not losing weight at all

mrsgreenjeens · Oct 7, 2015

Yep, handsome indeed

. Kind of reminds me of my own slightly pudgy boy

.

So....did he manage to lose any weight?

kittycort · Oct 7, 2015

No weight loss yet. Sigh.

LotsOfFur · Oct 7, 2015

What a cutie!

IMO his blood work is good, he is happy and active, his coat looks sleek and healthy and his food is monitored. He likes how and what you are currently feeding him and his weight has been stable for a while.

Enjoy him and and just keep up your routine to make sure his weight doesn't creep up (which you already are doing).

kittycort · Oct 8, 2015

Thanks all!

I am thinking the same thing, LotsOfFur. I am thinking he is just a bigger big. He is healthy otherwise and his coat really is very shiny. He goes up or down 3oz. but thats it.

I would like to share that he cuddled with me for the very first time, two nights ago. Ive had him for five years so this was a big deal! I couldnt believe my eyes when I looked down and his head was on my lap, with his belly up and ready for a nice petting.

Kat0121 · Oct 8, 2015

KittyCort said:
One of my favorite pics of her.

kittycort · Oct 8, 2015

Sophie is adorable! Your condo looks like mine...hair and all.

Jazz has what you could call a "pot belly." His weight seems to accumulate in the lower belly area, near his bottom. I hope that makes sense. He struggles some with grooming his private area because of it. It is clean...but he barely reaches it. Sometimes I see him lift his belly with one paw. My worry is diabetes and my vet(s) telling me he needs to lose weight. But, like you you are saying, I am thinking of just mainting his weight, which comes naturally anyways. I tink for him, this just IS his weight at this point. My tech told me she had a cat bigger than him who lives to be 19 with nearly no health issues at all. She said his weight also simply didnt budge aso she stoppd stressing herself and him out about it.

He is a great kitty. Crazy rambunctious...Einstein-smart...handsome...and a lover boy with other animals. Grooms everyone with fur.

kittycort · Oct 8, 2015

Funny thought...he is best friends with one of my other male cats. But my other boy is just 8lbs. He has a tiny build...8lbs next to 19lbs is quite a sight!

momofmaxwell · Oct 8, 2015

Hi.When an overweight kltty has to lose weight which works on joints,can bring on diabetes etc the true weight as per safe loss per month is a mere 1/2 lb to be safe.Many cat owners will go out & buy food that is half the calories.WRONG.You can bring on hepatic lipidosis very quickly.More so in fact than a cat that eats nothing.That being said if he doesn't lose weight your 1/2lb per month goal then his exercise is not enough.He needs more.Have you thought of putting him on harness & walking him or should i say him walking you? My boy walked on a harness for 16 yrs.Laser toy etc.Also to be honest dry is the pitts IMO.You can read if you like www.catinfo.org Huge read about foods etc.You do want the weight loss to be very gradual.Set a goal for 6lbs in one year.You'll need a proper scale.baby scale.And yes even trying to eat if you make it where he has to work for it.Climb up something to get to his bowl.All this extra movement will help.But it is a long journey.Are you actually measuring out calorie intake per day?.Have a spreadsheet with weights etc?.No free feeding & if he seems hungry a programmable feeder may help if he is microchipped.Very few treats & no human scraps.Stick with it otherwise only time will tell that illnesses will begin to form over time.you don't want that and is good you posted.Most people do not realize it has to be only 1/2 lb per month for safety of the liver not being affected which is life threatening..But it is doable.HTH C.

dominique leduc · Oct 14, 2015

I am having the same issue with my kitty! For over a year now, we have been monitoring his calories and have put him on high end (no carb) food. He started out at 18ish lbs. I will also mention he is a BIG cat, tall, long, monster paws - so he would probably be underweight at 13 lbs. anyway - no health issues, blood work and thyroid function are fine. He's been eating 1/4 cup orijen dry and 4 tbsp of wellness wet indoor, totaling to about 180 cals/day. He slowly lost a pound, over a couple of months, but now he's stagnated for several months at 17lbs. He is 8, so he's not incredibly active, but does run around on his own sometimes, and when I play with him he's happy to chase his toy around a while. I'm at a loss! Surely eating less than 180 cals per day does not seem enough... But he's not budging :-/ vet does not seem concerned though, so I'm trying not to be, either...

mrsgreenjeens · Oct 14, 2015

Dominique Leduc said:
I am having the same issue with my kitty! For over a year now, we have been monitoring his calories and have put him on high end (no carb) food. He started out at 18ish lbs. I will also mention he is a BIG cat, tall, long, monster paws - so he would probably be underweight at 13 lbs. anyway - no health issues, blood work and thyroid function are fine. He's been eating 1/4 cup orijen dry and 4 tbsp of wellness wet indoor, totaling to about 180 cals/day. He slowly lost a pound, over a couple of months, but now he's stagnated for several months at 17lbs. He is 8, so he's not incredibly active, but does run around on his own sometimes, and when I play with him he's happy to chase his toy around a while. I'm at a loss! Surely eating less than 180 cals per day does not seem enough... But he's not budging :-/ vet does not seem concerned though, so I'm trying not to be, either...

When you say your Vet is not concerned, are you saying the Vet doesn't think he is overweight, or just what? An overweight cat is at risk for diabetes, particularly if his diet consists of certain carbs. I know SOME Wellness, depending on WHICH ones are not really that low on the Carb scale . Don't really know about Orijin. We have a pudge cat ourselves, and I offer him ONLY foods that have less than 10% in carbs...try to go lower than that even. Some days he gets different amount of calories than other days, but he never gets a LOT. It may only vary by 30 calories, but maybe, as in people, it's enough to keep him from stagnating at a certain weight. I also toss him his treats as far as I can so he has to run for them, which he actually loves doing. He's a great little outfielder

And I make sure his treats, which he gets only sparingly, are carb free (I use 100% freeze dried chicken)

dominique leduc · Oct 14, 2015

mrsgreenjeens said:
When you say your Vet is not concerned, are you saying the Vet doesn't think he is overweight, or just what? An overweight cat is at risk for diabetes, particularly if his diet consists of certain carbs. I know SOME Wellness, depending on WHICH ones are not really that low on the Carb scale . Don't really know about Orijin. We have a pudge cat ourselves, and I offer him ONLY foods that have less than 10% in carbs...try to go lower than that even. Some days he gets different amount of calories than other days, but he never gets a LOT. It may only vary by 30 calories, but maybe, as in people, it's enough to keep him from stagnating at a certain weight. I also toss him his treats as far as I can so he has to run for them, which he actually loves doing. He's a great little outfielder :lol3: And I make sure his treats, which he gets only sparingly, are carb free (I use 100% freeze dried chicken)

Hi! The vet doesn't think his current weight poses any health concerns - she agrees he is a little heavier than he needs to be, but as we're actively working on it I guess she isn't overly worried since all tests seem to be in order. Carbs could be something worth looking into! All their food is grain free at least - orijen is apparently a very low carb food, so I'm not too worried there. I found a list on here of wellness foods and their carb contents - the one I am feeding is 3.27% carbs. Not sure where that lies on the scale. Though at only 4 tbsp/day, and only 56 of his daily calories I'm not sure it makes too much difference? I don't know - sigh! It seems so much more complicated than in humans!! Thank you for your response - I will look into the carb thing a bit more. Oh and treat throwing is a good idea! He doesn't get them too often, but I'll be sure to try that when he does- he loves games

momofmaxwell · Oct 14, 2015

Hi.Here are a couple of links of body scoring your cat as per being overweight or not.I agree about carbs.Carbs are actually very bad.More than we realize.Being a member on the lymphoma groups, carbs are out.Cancer feeds on carbs& diets . Evo 95% turkey or something like that is preferred.Here is some body scoring: Hugs C.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=cat+body+obesity+scale&biw=1024&bih=663&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0CBsQsARqFQoTCMSBktO3w8gCFRI7iAodJ8EHsQ

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evolily · Oct 15, 2015

Try an interactive feeder or treat ball for the dry food. Make him work for it.

dominique leduc · Oct 15, 2015

MomofMaxwell said:
Hi.Here are a couple of links of body scoring your cat as per being overweight or not.I agree about carbs.Carbs are actually very bad.More than we realize.Being a member on the lymphoma groups, carbs are out.Cancer feeds on carbs& diets . Evo 95% turkey or something like that is preferred.Here is some body scoring: Hugs C.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=cat+...X&ved=0CBsQsARqFQoTCMSBktO3w8gCFRI7iAodJ8EHsQ

https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=...dition&usg=AFQjCNFd8aZ6joqeyaB-DYlcrnJ9s8WCoQ

Thanks very much for those links; they were very helpful! Even though he's quite heavy, his waist is still discernible to the eye and his spine & ribs can be felt through some fat. He's surely somewhat overweight, but not obese. His tummy doesn't drag or anything. But you've given me some good info to get him on the right track and I appreciate it. Going to wean him more onto his wet food so that it's his main source of calories - so 3/4 is the goal for now. I bought some freeze dried treats as well to replace the other carb-y, standard treats I have. Also Planning to order a kitty jungle gym next week from a company called catwheelnet - (really cool structures) he used to LOVE climbing when he was an outdoor cat, so hopefully that encourages some more activity

Thanks to all!

dominique leduc · Oct 15, 2015

evolily said:
Try an interactive feeder or treat ball for the dry food. Make him work for it.

That's a great idea! I'll check out Pinterest for something DIY - thanks :-D

dominique leduc · Oct 15, 2015

MomofMaxwell said:
Hi.Here are a couple of links of body scoring your cat as per being overweight or not.I agree about carbs.Carbs are actually very bad.More than we realize.Being a member on the lymphoma groups, carbs are out.Cancer feeds on carbs& diets . Evo 95% turkey or something like that is preferred.Here is some body scoring: Hugs C.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=cat+...X&ved=0CBsQsARqFQoTCMSBktO3w8gCFRI7iAodJ8EHsQ

https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=...dition&usg=AFQjCNFd8aZ6joqeyaB-DYlcrnJ9s8WCoQ

Ah! I just spent 10 minutes replying to this and they told me they had to hold it for moderation :-/ the short of it was thank you for the links and the helpful info

hopefully they post my original response soon..!

kittycort · Oct 15, 2015

Glad Im not the only one!!

Your kitty is a lot like mine, for sure. I have decided to keep him on a half cup a day of dry, high-protein, grain-free food. He is staying on 190-195 kcals. At 180 kcals, he was so hungry. For big cats, I dont suggest you go any less than 180. Not every big cat will get diabetes and of course, lacking nutrition could result in issues far worse than chancing diabetes. No way I will starve my cat as an experiment to see if hes able to lose weight.

Ive come to the conclusion that if they are healthy, happy, and active for their age, then lets not stress them out because they are bigger. With your cat being eight, he may lose weight once he becomes a senior kitty, most do. I wish him mamy healthy years!

kittycort · Oct 15, 2015

My cat did low carbs with zero weight loss. Exercise is important but even my vet says, diet is far more important. A treat ball, unfortunatly, will not cause kitty to burn many calories at all. My cat is,active, no doubt, but not everyone ends up skinny.

momofmaxwell · Oct 15, 2015

Hi Dominique.You're welcome.Here are a couple other links pertaining to how to go about helping your kitty to lose weight safely.Yeah I know lots of reading.but losing weight is just as dangerous as a kitty that won't eat.you have to be careful.Or HL will kick in & you don't want that for your babe.

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Hope that helps.hugs to the babe.C

dominique leduc · Oct 15, 2015

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Glad Im not the only one!!

Your kitty is a lot like mine, for sure. I have decided to keep him on a half cup a day of dry, high-protein, grain-free food. He is staying on 190-195 kcals. At 180 kcals, he was so hungry. For big cats, I dont suggest you go any less than 180. Not every big cat will get diabetes and of course, lacking nutrition could result in issues far worse than chancing diabetes. No way I will starve my cat as an experiment to see if hes able to lose weight.

Ive come to the conclusion that if they are healthy, happy, and active for their age, then lets not stress them out because they are bigger. With your cat being eight, he may lose weight once he becomes a senior kitty, most do. I wish him mamy healthy years!

Thank you so much! I agree! Both of my cats have been on about 180-200 cals/day for about a year now and I won't do less than that. My female who is NOT overweight eats the same as my male, and she maintains her weight perfectly, too. I believe it's got something to do with the orijen - it's a very healthy food, but high in calories and super filling. It's also high protein low carb. It doesn't seem so much about the number of calories at least with my cats! I've been monitoring their weight now for well over a year and both seem to be fine. And, to my surprise - I weighed them last night and the boy is actually down to 16.6 - this is a 2 lb loss over about 1.5 years. Very slow & steady :-)
Maybe it's just going to take your kitty a long time like mine seems to be doing.. Anyway yes - he is happy & Health is good so we just do what we can, eh? Long life to your baby as well!

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