What color are my points?

Trying to decide how to best describe her points...seal, chocolate, or something else. This picture was in natural lighting so the color is pretty accurate to in person. Does this mean she is part Siamese?

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She is a 'Seal Tortie Point with White'. 

I wish I could  tell you more about what she looks like, but I'm not familiar with short haired breeds like the Siamese. I hope someone else can help you with that! ^^

Seal being the dark brown/gray color. Why is she considered seal tortie? Is it because her ears and tail are mottled and not one consistent color?

newmamaof3 said:

Seal being the dark brown/gray color. Why is she considered seal tortie? Is it because her ears and tail are mottled and not one consistent color?

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Seal = black, the darkest places on her ears and other parts.   Which are black, as I can see.

Tortie, Bianca apparently saw some red or creme (cereme = diluted red)  spots.   I with my so  so computer dont dare to say too much here.

Anyways, if she carries red spots, so she is a tortie too...

Thanks for the clarification. She mostly looked gray and white when she was a baby but her colors have gotten more pronounced and I would say that her tail and ears definitely have a touch of reddish brown in with the gray/black.

We have a tortie (actually a torbie - she has the m on her head and tabby striped legs and the tortie coloration, red, cream, and black). It just didn't occur to me that points could be tortie. She is blue eyed of course like all pointed cats but does she likely have a partially Siamese lineage?

newmamaof3 said:

We have a tortie (actually a torbie - she has the m on her head and tabby striped legs and the tortie coloration, red, cream, and black). It just didn't occur to me that points could be tortie. She is blue eyed of course like all pointed cats but does she likely have a partially Siamese lineage?

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Re both your pointed cats.   They do have points of the siamese type,  they do carry the siamese type point gene.  Thus, technically it can be said they are siamese mixes...

Although I wouldnt say this.  We cant know how long away the ancestry is, unless the body shape is clearly siamese alike... 

The point gene is recessive, and quite weak by itself.   Practically all other genes in this position, this allele, are stronger.

But doubled up, one from mom and one from dad, it becomes strong - and gives the kittens its point appearance.  The kitten become not seldom an old siamese look alike.

Although the body colors comes from parents, often from mom.

Btw, you can perhaps compare your first point with a Snowshoe, who were constructed with old type siamese as base.  The breed rare, but the pattern isnt unique.

One dramatic example on this long way ancestry popping up is my breed, the Russian Blue.  Way back in the early 1947-1955 they used some blue point siameses to broaden the gene base.  And after 1960 they dont use actively known point carriers in the breeding work. 

Yet, into the day of today, pointed old type siameses alikes do pop up now and then in the litters of RB!   Its not common, but it does happens.  60 years after!

There is one another point gene, the burmese point.    Its very much scarcer, so its seldom we do see a burmese look alike just popping up.  (they are brown in the body, and eyes arent blue).    But mixed points, carrying both  siamese point gene and burmese point gene arent that unique, once you realized they do happen.  You can see them here occasionally.

Theese are often atypical point, quite dark on the body although still fairly young, and eyes barely bluish...

The third variation is no true points; young kittens with blackish points, and lighter but still dark body - its the so called fever coat, and it disappears with time.

Biancavd said:

 
She is a 'Seal Tortie Point with White'. 

I wish I could  tell you more about what she looks like, but I'm not familiar with short haired breeds like the Siamese. I hope someone else can help you with that! ^^

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Excellent info! I looked at the snowshoe and yes she does look a lot like that. Here's a good view of her from the top and bottom. You can see her little white paws like the snowshoe. Sorry my last post was confusing...my torbie is not pointed...

StefanZ said:

 
Seal = black, the darkest places on her ears and other parts.   Which are black, as I can see.

Tortie, Bianca apparently saw some red or creme (cereme = diluted red)  spots.   I with my so  so computer dont dare to say too much here.

Anyways, if she carries red spots, so she is a tortie too...

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Correct, there is red on the nose and on the back paw that you can see on the picture, which makes her a tortie

Very pretty girl, hug her from me! =^^=

Thank you! She is my alpha cat