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Okay, so my queen, her name is Charcoal, she had given birth to a stillborn kitten, about 8 hours ago. As i am 14 i couldn't have done much for her, so i felt really bad. She has not given birth to any other kittens since then, and as i am the only human she is comfortable dealing with, she lets me touch her stomach, and as i did, i felt as though she had about 3 more kittens left in her "stomach" area. Now i am extremely worried for her as this is my first time ever experiencing such an event, and considering the fact that she gave birth to the stillborn kitten literally 2 feet away from me, has been very emotional and nerve racking. Now, my question is, is she okay? Like, will she end up giving birth later? I have heard stories of queens giving birth days after the first one.

P.S. the stillborn kitten looked perfectly normal, with no defects.

X2 P.S. as for the bleeding that occurred, it was pretty normal, and she did eat the placenta thing.

X3 P.S. I am very worried, if you could help me asap it would be the most amazing thing ever.
 

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Okay, so my queen, her name is Charcoal, she had given birth to a stillborn kitten, about 8 hours ago. As i am 14 i couldn't have done much for her, so i felt really bad. She has not given birth to any other kittens since then, and as i am the only human she is comfortable dealing with, she lets me touch her stomach, and as i did, i felt as though she had about 3 more kittens left in her "stomach" area. Now i am extremely worried for her as this is my first time ever experiencing such an event, and considering the fact that she gave birth to the stillborn kitten literally 2 feet away from me, has been very emotional and nerve racking. Now, my question is, is she okay? Like, will she end up giving birth later? I have heard stories of queens giving birth days after the first one.

P.S. the stillborn kitten looked perfectly normal, with no defects.

X2 P.S. as for the bleeding that occurred, it was pretty normal, and she did eat the placenta thing.

X3 P.S. I am very worried, if you could help me asap it would be the most amazing thing ever.
You seem to know quite a lot, for someone of 14 and without earlier experience.   So Im sure it will go fine!

Its essentially as Miss Mocha says, and you yourself had read.   If your queen is OK, no visible troubles, no fever bleeding nothing, you can wait and see.  Be observant, its touchy, but you can wait.

As the stillborn was fullborne, the pause shouldnt be very long.  But as a rule of thumb, cats seems to manage a little too long pregnancies quite well, better than humans.  Its too short pregnancies which are deadly - for the kittens.  Prematures have a rough start, much worse than human babies.

IF she is in visible trouble, and its not the usual labor, you must contact your vet.  

You perhaps know somebody else whom is epperienced with cats, dogs, or even rabbit breeding??  To have someone to phone to and get advices is both wise and good.  Helps you calm down if nothing else.

Or even, a mom of several children may help out - these are usually used to organize chaotic situations...

But speaking the truth.  If you HAD access to a good vet, I would recommend you to at least phone and ask.   If they are fullborne alike the stillborn, they can probably be taken out.  Or mom get a shot causing her to continue with labor.   A good vet whom is an experienced obstetrician  (mom and babies doctor) would advise you best.

But if your vet is so so, or your budget is tight, it changes the calculations...    That is why I recommend to wait and see, if she isnt in no trouble at all.
 
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thank you so much for responding so quick, now, my queen has been sleeping, and she has decided to go and eat and drink. But i was wondering, is it normal for the queen to start licking another near by cat when she is about to go into labour? because she had done so when the stillborn arrived.
 

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thank you so much for responding so quick, now, my queen has been sleeping, and she has decided to go and eat and drink. But i was wondering, is it normal for the queen to start licking another near by cat when she is about to go into labour? because she had done so when the stillborn arrived.
Good she seems OK!   When you want love and sympathy, a step is to get love and sympathy.  So is with humans, it may be with cats too.

So she has a cat pal?  Is the other cat helping her, holding her company?
 
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kinda , they've been "sisters" since we first got them at about 6-8 weeks. and her sister ( the other cat) is staying distant, except for when the queen decides to go and lick the day-lights out of her sister.

Now, on another note, do you think the queen will go into labour anytime soon? and if she does, is there anything i should do? i.e. bring towels, or maybe warm water bottles to stick under the nests blanket/towel, or maybe even leave the room?
 

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Now, on another note, do you think the queen will go into labour anytime soon? and if she does, is there anything i should do? i.e. bring towels, or maybe warm water bottles to stick under the nests blanket/towel, or maybe even leave the room?
Yes, everything such is wise to have near.  You cant know for sure what complication there will be...     It depends alos on the temperature in your place...

I shall see if I see some articles, Im back in a few minutes.

WHEN she will continue with delivery,  I cant know. Days, hours?   If the stillborne was ready made, it shouldnt be too long, but we cant know.  The kittens could be started at several different occasions too, unless you are sure it was just one mating (or a few in short time) with one male.
 

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Here are my / our links, you will not need all of them at this moment, but begin to read these on delivery.

 Birth, Delivery and Newborns

How to Tell if My Cat is Pregnant?

Cat Pregnancy

How Do I Know When My Cat Will Give Birth?

Pregnant Cat? What to Prepare For the Birth

Help! My Cat is Having Kittens!

Premature Kittens

Post-Birth Complications in Cats

And also:

http://www.thecatsite.com/a/kitten-development-stages-illustrated-guide

http://www.thecatsite.com/a/pregnancy-and-delivery-in-cats

http://www.icatcare.org/advice/my-cat-having-kittens     ( This is a link to a group of articles on cat pregnancy, birth and kittens.   Read the ones on normal cat birth and on " when to wait and when to worry"  )  

http://www.thecatsite.com/a/hand-rearing-kittens

http://www.kitten-rescue.com/
http://www.kittenrescue.org/index.php/cat-care/kitten-care-handbook/
 

Goats milk is useful instead of kmr. Raw goat milk is best, but bottled full fat is OK too.

Observe, if an orphan is much bloated, gas-filled, bloated, have colic, simethicone (google on it) may help.  1-2 drop in the bottle.

Fleece or flannel good to use in the bedding for kittens
 
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i honestly have no idea of how many mates she has had, my mother had planned on having her "fixed" but she clearly didn't want that to happen. other than that I'm hoping that my cat is going to be alright through everything :)
 
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So my queen had given birth to another stillborne kitten, 23 hours after the last one, and even though i tried everything i could, nothing happened. I am now extremely worried, as the only 2 kittens she gave birth to, were stillborne.

P.S. Do you think her other one(s) will be sillborne too? please reply asap
 
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she just gave birth to another still borne kitten… I don't think she will give birth to a live one.

P.S. She is doing everything she should be doing, which is why i don't understand why none of them are living, the one she just gave birth to, we had to help her do so, as it came out feet first, we had to help her my pulling the little kitten out ( we followed the veterinarians advice ) and yet again, the baby was dead before it was birthed.
 

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Without reading the thread, are you certain they are dead? Sometimes they need to be stimulated and made to breathe.

Some moms wont do this enough to get the baby going.

Is there alot of time in between births?
 
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yes, we were certain they were dead, we had tried to stimulate their breathing for about 10 minutes, rubbing their chests for 30 second intervals, with nothing happening.
 

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If this happens again you actually have minutes to get the baby revived and breathing.

Allow mom to clean first, but if baby seems dead, then take action. Wipe the face, nose with a cloth. Clear the mouth with your finger and if you have a suction thingy, use that in the nose.

Take the baby between your 2 hands, head at your fingers and butt at your wrist, cup around him and holding your hands up over your head,  one big swing downward from over your head to pointing the head at the floor, hold a few seconds.

If baby still doesn't breathe, repeat. 

This uses gravity to push fluids from lungs and stimulates breathing to start.
 

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How is it going, @Trevor2001    ?    I understand its a nightmare, but such happens.  Not seldom its an infection in the vomb.

If you like the idea of having small kittens, and as your queen seems to have the instincts, her trying care of the stillborne, you could perhaps be a foster mom to someone?   Phone the vets around, they usually know if there is some need in near driving range.

Just be sure the fosterlings dont carry some bad contagion with them...

This advice works also if the last kittens arrives alive and healthy -  its always good if the alone kittena has some siblings to play with and be cofostered with...
 
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