Young cat just went into labor help please

Most kittens learn the litter box very quickly as you described. They will still sleep there and play there, but less as they mature. At least they know what it's for!

You can go ahead and schedule Simba's spay now. I know it will be hard for you to keep her from eating, but just do your best.

There's nothing special you need to do to prepare the kittens for re-homing, but they should be eating solids well and be about 8 weeks old. Just tell the people taking them to feed them what you have been feeding them initially.

It sounds like things are going great!

catwoman707 said:

You made me laugh, she won't eat the kittens!! :lol3:

The scratching after the flea meds were applied is because the fleas start racing around like mad. 
You don't need to separate the kittens before they leave. They'll be fine.

Mom will need her food pulled at midnight the night before is all, no biggie and she won't starve.
It prevents her vomiting while under anesthesia and choking on it or inhaling it because it will sometimes cause nausea/upset tummy.

She can have canned once she is back home.

She can go anytime now but should dry up somewhat before. If she is full of milk still it makes the surgery more difficult/messy. I think in another week or 2 when they are nursing even less she can probably go, the less they nurse the less she will produce.

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Hi opps lol heheheh I meant she will eat the kittens food lol sorry I just re read that and I laughed also. She's nursing much less. And for last few days it hasn't been all 5 at a time. Because she can't be seperated it's one studio big room I was concerned she will eat the kittens food the night before surgery. I don't know if there is anyway going around that. I don't want to pick up the kittens food and make them hungry. It's 8 hours before surgery? I'm trying to think what to do because she will eat their food. I wish I could do it when they will all be gone to their homes but they will be leaving at different times. And she eats so much. Even with her caned and hard food and treats she is going by them and eating the same food they have but it is teaching them because they have all at different points will eat the hard or soft or if I mix it. They don't eat a lot. Now that they are turning 6 weeks this Friday how many times a day do I give them the soft food. I leave hard food out always and water. The soft food I do a few times a day but they are not always into it. They are playing so much and have new toys and believe it they love empty shoeboxes it's the cutest thing they have these plush soft beds and a few of them will sleep in show box. They are fully litter trained all 5 it took 2 days that was such a relief. I'm so proud of them. For the scratching yes they are still scratching here and there. I haven't found any dea fleas. Simba never scratched to begin with so she's not scratching. I hope a bug didn't crawl in their ears. They scratch by the ears I tried looking in. But it makes sense what you said. Thank you so much. :heart3:

I would feed canned twice a day, if you have dry down all the time.

At 6 weeks you can even give canned once a day as long as they eat and like their dry food well.

Maybe it wasn't quite enough flea med on them, they should be done scratching by now.

Pick up the kittens food that night also, they are not going to starve!  

Once mom is secured in the carrier and ready to go, put their food out for them, they will be fine.

sarthur2 said:

Most kittens learn the litter box very quickly as you described. They will still sleep there and play there, but less as they mature. At least they know what it's for!

You can go ahead and schedule Simba's spay now. I know it will be hard for you to keep her from eating, but just do your best.

There's nothing special you need to do to prepare the kittens for re-homing, but they should be eating solids well and be about 8 weeks old. Just tell the people taking them to feed them what you have been feeding them initially.

It sounds like things are going great!

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Hi thank you for the support always. I have 3 homes for after they turn 8 weeks going to very loving and experienced homes thankfully. The 2 orange still looking for the right home. It's ok if,they stay a little longer. I love them all wish I could keep,them all. I going to,see Simba to do the spay 7 or 8 weeks like you said. The concern is she eats like an elephant lol, for such a little cat. :-). She has all her food and she munches on the kittens so I don't know how I can pull this off. I think it's 8 hours before surgery. She hates the pet carrier which is ute and cages so I can't just leave her in there for a few hours she would go crazy. I know it's dangerous to eat I can maybe pull the food early morning take her in and feed them because they sleep maybe thru the night. I don't want the kittens to go,without food. I'm really stumped with what to do. I know I have 2 more weeks but I'm worried. The kittens turn 6 already Friday how times flys.
They are all litter box trained which is so amazing to me. They love shoeboxes now it's so cute. They are scratching a little here and there since the advantage flea but hopefully that will stop the fleas are dung but haven't seen any. For feeding now that they are getting older can you tell me a food schedule. They will always have the hard food. And really they have the soft food I give fresh every few hours but I don't take it away because the room is cool and don't think it will spoil. Plus Simba eats it also aside from her food. They seem to nibble but not eat like crazy. They are still nursing also,but that has decreased. Do you know how many times to,feed them because I don't think other people are as easy going as me,with soft food,cans. I'm going thru cases. But not going to waste the left overs I am giving to the ferals who have their fresh food and water daily. Does the mom stop nursing at 8weeks. Will they need some milk kmr in a bowl. The soft food is not mixed with water or kmr just plain. Yes for the rehousing I was going to do care package with some food toys even their bed or,towel.

catwoman707 said:

I would feed canned twice a day, if you have dry down all the time.

At 6 weeks you can even give canned once a day as long as they eat and like their dry food well.

Maybe it wasn't quite enough flea med on them, they should be done scratching by now.

Pick up the kittens food that night also, they are not going to starve!  
Once mom is secured in the carrier and ready to go, put their food out for them, they will be fine.

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I did put 1 can down per feeding and even though they don't eat it all I been putting 2 cans down on 2 cake plates and they eat a little but they don't really make an indent . They do like the hard food. I do that every few hours but it's always left over. Then Simba eats it.

Okay yes I'll do that 8 hours before her surgery. Simba and the kittens eat at 3am or 6am sometimes. All night. I will leave water I read I could. I still have 2 or 3 weeks for her to be fixed.

I will see if there's anymore scratching I did divide the tube for the large cat on all 5 equally. THey are not constant scratching but I notice 1 or 2 scratch and then stop. But you might be right they might of needed more. I looked and never found one flea and would think Simba would also be scratching but she isn't but I did the advantage tube for her in case.

Thank you :heart3:

Catwoman gave excellent advice!

Wet food twice a day, pull it at midnight for Simba's spay. You can get her spayed at any time now.

The cats need more Advantage. If the kittens are scratching they have fleas.

The kittens will begin eating larger amounts of wet food as they grow and nurse less.

sarthur2 said:

Catwoman gave excellent advice!

Wet food twice a day, pull it at midnight for Simba's spay. You can get her spayed at any time now.

The cats need more Advantage. If the kittens are scratching they have fleas.

The kittens will begin eating larger amounts of wet food as they grow and nurse less.

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sarthur2 said:

Catwoman gave excellent advice!

Wet food twice a day, pull it at midnight for Simba's spay. You can get her spayed at any time now.

The cats need more Advantage. If the kittens are scratching they have fleas.

The kittens will begin eating larger amounts of wet food as they grow and nurse less.

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Hi yes I agree great advice from catwoman and you as always thank you both. Just to reconfirm I think you Said Simba can get spayed at 7 or 8 weeks ideally. The kittens are turning 6 weeks this Friday. So I will make the appointment.

They haven't been scratching not much here and there and not all of them. But it's the ears I think. Could it be ear mites? So far they seem to have decreased scratching. Simba never scratched before but she is walked outside on leash 2 times a day and maybe was a carrier. I did put the advantage on her. I will see and observe more and report back. I put a few drops on each kitten I don't want to poison them with overly mediating with advantage a second time?. But maybe. Few more drops. I looked on each for fleas couldn't find nothing I know they are tiny. They like the hard food more then the soft. But like you said less nursing more,soft food.

Now I've noticed some odd behavior with Simba. The kittens learned litter training in literally 2 days over a week now. Last few days Simba has been using their litter box but it's a kitten litter box and has been going to bathroom in front of the box or part is in the box. Her litter box has the same nonclumping litter and cleaned multiple times a day like theirs. And she has he same exact food on the other side of the kittens and will go eat their food and slowed down on touching hers it's the same soft can kitten food it's the same kitten hard food I added Also in. Her water Bowl and then she has her treats and adult hard food. She even goes and drinks their water. She's doing this more and more. In the beginning she had eaten but she was teaching them. They do eat around her. But it's odd with using the bathroom litterbox and the food. Is this normal. She does Clean and lick them but she isn't playing with them. But they have so many toys and their new fun is empty shoeboxes they love to go in and nap. They have huge pet beds. They really are doing good. And she sleeps not with them. If you can offer any opinion please let me know. Thank you so much.

She's being normal. The mom of my kittens used their kitten litter and ate their food. It's nothing to worry about. She's making sure their food is not better than hers .

Let us know when the spay appointment is!

sarthur2 said:

She's being normal. The mom of my kittens used their kitten litter and ate their food. It's nothing to worry about. She's making sure their food is not better than hers .

Let us know when the spay appointment is!

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Hi thank you for sharing I was really wondering. Ok good to know it's the same exact food she has but is leaving it so now I'm just putting extra for the kittens they aren't eating a lot they nibble. Simba is still nursing. And her food on other side still have as well. I might need to get a bigger box because she is pooping part outside of the kitten litter box and I'm only cleaning with water. Because the kittens lick the floor. So you recommend 7 to 8 weeks since she is still nursing right? They are 6 weeks tomorrow. when does a moms milk stop for nursing. Does it dry up and then she just will stop nursing. She's been doing good on the lease. Wanting to go inside to check on the kittens so when time comes to separate I will need help advise and support I am really worried. I know it's a part of life but I will feel sad no matter what. I know Simba will not take it well. They won't be separated all at once. I will fix her while they still are all here or should I wait till after they been placed in homes. I think before. Its 3am here and they are all playing with each other. I've kind of given up sleep since they been born lol. Also still a concern is they do scratch here and there I did put the advantage perhaps not enough but it was a tube for the biggest largest cat and I divided it into 5 kittens a few drops each. should I wait to put more or could it be ear mites. It's not a lot of scratching but it's by the ear the ones that do. They seem happy and forget and just play and eat and are happy. I just want to be sure

You should spay Simba before the kittens are re-homed. She will still be able to nurse afterwards. The surgical cut should be right between her lower mammary glands. She will probably go into heat soon. That will really keep you from sleeping!

Now you see why we say not to re-home for at least 12 weeks, and to re-home them in pairs. They need the time with their mom.

You can apply more Advantage. It sounds like they need it.

You can also get a bigger kitten box if you wish.

It sounds like things are going well!

It's been more than a week since kittens were flea treated, so go ahead and re-treat, 

I know you don't have a 1.0 ml syringe, so you will still need to do the drops counting.

8 drops is 0.3 mls, this will be their dose now.

Not easy to count 8 drops on a wiggling kitten but this is the appropriate dose now.

They are close to getting the full 8 week old kitten dose but not quite. (which is 0.4 mls)

so 0.3 is perfectly safe.

Remember to apply it to their skin and not on top of the fur. Just spread the fur so it exposes a bit of skin spot behind their neck.

sarthur2 said:

You should spay Simba before the kittens are re-homed. She will still be able to nurse afterwards. The surgical cut should be right between her lower mammary glands. She will probably go into heat soon. That will really keep you from sleeping!

Now you see why we say not to re-home for at least 12 weeks, and to re-home them in pairs. They need the time with their mom.

You can apply more Advantage. It sounds like they need it.

You can also get a bigger kitten box if you wish.

It sounds like things are going well!

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H thank you yes simba will be fixed before the kittens leve. There is no rush for the kittens to leave I've turned down homes because people wanted them at 6 weeks. I am also very saddened by north shore animal league who I had on waiting listed just in case called me today and said there is room for last 2 that need homes. I declined. Why would at 6 weeks I rip those 2 from their mom. They said they got an ok to accept 5 week kittens. Simbas kittens are slowly weaning nursimg amd eating. I am really disappointed in North shore. Plus they aren't caged with me and would be caged so I pray the last 2 will find homes together. I know it's going to be so hard on the kittens and Simba. The 3 that have homes they have other cats and real animal lovers I interviewed and will be going to the homes. I agree they won't be leaving at 8 weeks I'm going to try and extend for the 3 that have homes another weeks or 2. That's in 2 weeks. They waited this long so hopefully it will be ok. Simba vomited today 2 times but she is eating and drinking and went on her walk if it happenes again I will take her in to vet. Her bathroom is ok. In 2 weeks she will be fixed. The worst is getting her in her carrier it has a top and side entrance but she hates it and it breaks my heart. I'm trying to figure out how I can vet her in. The vet secretary said take her by the neck and throw her in I would never do that.
Yes I will apply advantage do I apply to all of the kittens or just ones scratching? And do I reapply for simba?
Thank you so much.

catwoman707 said:

It's been more than a week since kittens were flea treated, so go ahead and re-treat, 
I know you don't have a 1.0 ml syringe, so you will still need to do the drops counting.
8 drops is 0.3 mls, this will be their dose now.
Not easy to count 8 drops on a wiggling kitten but this is the appropriate dose now.
They are close to getting the full 8 week old kitten dose but not quite. (which is 0.4 mls)
so 0.3 is perfectly safe.

Remember to apply it to their skin and not on top of the fur. Just spread the fur so it exposes a bit of skin spot behind their neck.

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Hi thank you. Not all of them are scratching so do I put it on all? Also I will try to look for a 1ml syringe I have 2 but they are bigger. Do you know where I can go to purchase a 1ml I been looking they don't have or sold out.
They have a good space to run but can I open it up more they have alot of toys and beds and food and litter box and it's alot of room but a few love to try to get out I have a jumper and the orange middle with white paws walks around when he gets out. I believe in freedom but I do realize they are small. They are already 7 weeks this friday. I'm going get some weights soon. They are nursing much less but eating the soft and hard and drinking water. I'll post some pics of them for everyone. Thank you for all the help.

The precious 5 ♡♡♡♡♡

When treating for fleas you will treat them all.

You have been such a loving guardian for Simba and her babies and I applaud and thank you for that. [emoji]128149[/emoji]

I am happy that you are keeping the kittens together with mom for longer, they will be so much better pets for it. I have faith that the last two will find lovely homes as the others that are spoken for.

Re: Simba vomitting today...
Did you see any hair in it?

Have you changed food?

I know how upsetting it can be to try and get our kitties into their carriers. I like to leave the carriers out with a bed or bedding in them. My cats love sleeping in them so when I have to take them to the vet if I'm lucky I just have to toss a treat in and close the door. (Doesn't always happen because they are smart and I'm probably more anxious and they pick up on that.)

Love the updates and think you're doing a fantastic job!

They are so cute! [emoji]128149[/emoji]

Yes, you will need to dose each kitten again and Simba too, or the fleas will just go from cat to cat.

You can let them move around the full room if you'd like.

I don't blame you for not wanting to give the kittens to the rescue group so young when they have a mom plus each other. It will all work out.

sarthur2 said:

They are so cute! [emoji]128149[/emoji]

Yes, you will need to dose each kitten again and Simba too, or the fleas will just go from cat to cat.

You can let them move around the full room if you'd like.

I don't blame you for not wanting to give the kittens to the rescue group so young when they have a mom plus each other. It will all work out.

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Darling little punkin babes!!

So cute!

There should be a cuteness overload warning on this thread. I love that little grey kitten with the orange face.

Awwww they are all  Such beautiful kittens!!!!