How long after loosing the mucus plug does a cat usually go before labour?

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Weights are good, but low. Just keep an eye on all of them, and glad you are buying kitten formula. I think you may want to supplement 4 and 6 for now.
 

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I would actually suggest to not supplement 4 and 6, but try to latch them onto mom's nipple whenever you can. It can already make a difference if you help them with that, and mom milk is much better for them than bought kittenmilk. 6 is probably fine, but make sure he/she continues to gain weight. Number 4 however you should start weighting twice a day to make sure he/she is drinking. If you notice the others are sleeping, latch him/her onto mom's nipple and hopefully she'll drink some more.

If you continue to have trouble with growth, you can try feeding the bigger once, and putting the smaller kittens onto mom's nipple again. The bigger ones will be full with the other milk and will fight less with the smaller ones for milk. This gives the little kittens the change to get some extra strenght and to grow properly too.

I personally wouldn't supplement too soon, as mom's milk is much better for all of them. You do have to keep a very good eye on them though. Kittens should never lose weight ,and preffered is a weightgain of 10g a day. With a big litter like this, this can be a little less, but it shouldn't go below 6g a day.
 
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Thanks for the advice I went and Baught kitten milk and tried to feed but they didn't want to take it from the bottle so I just kept putting the smaller kittens and the kitten that was loosing on to the nipple more often and now this evening when iv re weighed all there weights are up..
Kitten 1 is now 131g
Kitten 2 is now 121g
Kitten 3 is now 131g
Kitten 4 ( the one who was loosing weight is now 122g
Kitten 5 is now 112g
Kitten 6 is now 103g
They have all fed pritty much all day they will sleep for around 10 mins then they will go back to feed some more.. are these weight gains ok? For now iv decided to give peppa the kitten milk formula poored over her food so she is getting some extra goodness in hope she will pass it to the kittens too.. I know the first milk is the most important for them I was never going to replace mums milk for kitten 4 and 6 just top them up with it a few times a day if needed but as it turns out they won't take it from the kitten bottle anyway x
 

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The weights are very good!

If anything changes and you need to supplement, you'll need a 1 or 2 mL syringe to do so. Kittens with a mom almost never take a bottle. With the syringe you can get the milk in the side of the mouth drop by drop. You may want to pick up a syringe at a pharmacy to have on hand.
 
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Peppa is very attentive to her kittens but every chance she gets she likes to come out of the den when there sleeping and lie with me on the bed for a stroke and a cuddle :) it's so nice I was worried that when she had them she wouldn't want to be as cuddly with me but she makes sure that when her babies are safe and asleep she comes to lie with me but any noise they make she will sit up and look in at them.. on 2 occasions today she had nudged my hand over to them I'm not sure what she wants me to do when she does this :S any guesses lol x
 
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Sarthur2 Sarthur2 thanks ill do that I'll go and get one tomorrow just incase I do need to use it but I hope now they are gaining they will keep going and get bigger and stronger from mums milk :)
 

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Yes, mom's milk is best, but it's always wise to be prepared. Mom can drink some KMR, and babies too when they are weaning. She sounds like a great mom :).
 
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Peppa was having some food before and All the boys were lay in a pile fast asleep and the little girl was on her own crying so I scooped her up and braught her on the bed with me to lie down and peppa jumped up I thaught ohh she will tell me off and take her back now but she didn't she just checked liyla ( the name iv given the girl) who had fallen to sleep next to me on the pillow and she just jumped back down and settled down in her den that is right next to the bed and fell asleep next to the boys! I was so shocked that she trusted me that much with her baby! I put her back in with her brothers after around 20 mins or so :) x iv named them all now in birth order we have
Oreo (black and white)
Max (pure black)
Oscar ( tabby with small white face)
Dexter (tabby with big white face)
Liyla (the girl)
Toby ( the tabby boy who is identical to the girl)
 
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:D Toby with his milky lips after his bottle [emoji]128525[/emoji]

Quick update..
Kittens are now 4 days old and are doing well, they are all gaining well even the little runt they are all gaining between 10-20g per day.. peppa was at the vets this morning due to her having bad diarrhoea and she has been bleeding bright red blood from her vulva sins yesterday, she has not been her self much and in the night was quite fidgety and wouldn't stay still long to feed the kittens? Vet said all the kittens look well but even the biggest is on the smaller side even tho they are gaining well.. so he has asked me to give them kitten formula every 2-3 hrs during the day around 1-2ml just to top them up, he has give me some promax to help with peppa's diarrhoea, and he thinks the bleeding could be a blood clot coming away or a tear, he dosnt want to give her any antibiotics because it will be passes to the kittens thru peppa's milk so unless she developes a infection then he will leave her as she is atm so hopfully she will start to feel better in the next few days, Toby the runt his eyes are starting to open already :) x all kittens are currently snuggled up with me on the bed in a milky coma while peppa chills on the window cill
 

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They are all very sweet looking! I'm glad to hear you've been to the vet about Peppa. The bright red blood concerns me. It should get less red and diminish. If it does not, please get her back to the vet. And, it's okay if antibiotics pass to the kittens if she needs them. But if she doesn't heal inside, she'll need surgery. So keep a sharp eye out.

Is Peppa eating well? You can mix some canned pumpkin into her wet food to help with the diarrhea as well. Cats usually love it.

I'm glad you're topping off the kittens while Peppa is not feeling well. Do you have weights on the kittens? 2 mL every 2 hours is probably good for now. Post weights if you can.

They look very healthy :).
 
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Yes vet said if she dosnt heal she may need surgery, hopfully she starts to feel better soon, I will try the pumpkin in the food and see how she goes with it.
I weigh the kittens at 8am and 8 pm each day, these weighs are from 8am this morning,
Oreo -161g he was 105g when born.
Max - 153g he was 104g when born.
Oscar - 157g he was 102 when born.
Dexter - 161g he was 107g when born
Liyla - 152g she was 98g when born.
Toby - 126g he was 88g when born.
The vet said they have made good weight gains but they were all on the small side when born but thinks they will all do well with top ups and mums milk.
 

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I agree with the vet - the weight gains are very good!

Is Peppa still bleeding? Watch for any greenish or yellowish discharge, which would indicate infection.
 
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Slightly she will go a few hrs with no blood then she will get some more.
 

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How much blood is it every few hours? A teaspoon, or more, or just a few drops?
 
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It started at a few drops then progressed to more probably around a teaspoon amount but it's been hours now and she's had no bleeding and she seems a little bit more herself she's crying at me for food again so I'm taking that as a good sign that she's maybe getting better? And after the promax for the diarrhoea she has had no poops atall but she has awful wind!but I'm glad for her sake and mine there is no more runny poops for now [emoji]128567[/emoji][emoji]128567[/emoji]
 
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