Unsure about two things right now!

Hello everyone, Im natalia, and im 20. For the past two years i have been feeding feral cats arround my back alley. Since then 3 feral cats have made their home in my back yard (mammy cat, daddy cat, and pointy face) As i built a big cat house thing for them to stay in for shelter. I feed them daily but theyre free to roam anywhere they want. Mammy is neutered but the boys arent. 

In march this year i had to get pointyface put to sleep, because he was very ill.

Now the reason i made this forum....

A new feral cat has been coming into my yard for feeding, i dont know whether shes given birth or if shes still pregnant but her nipples are extremely large. With out sounding too mean, she really does smell bad. Shes thin, and she has her own feces all over her and it looks like shes got bad diarrhea. I want to take her to the vets to get neutered but 1. i dont know if shes given birth, if so, i dont want her to leave her kittens for so long without her as they could die. 2. when pointyface got put to sleep (because he was feral and didnt know what a cat box was) he urinated and was sick in the cat carrier and the vets said that was another reason he was put to sleep. cause when we opened the box for him to come out, he was laying in his diarrhea and didnt move. I dont want this other cat uranating in the box incase she gets put down for it. (Im almost certain the vets didnt want to treat pointy face) Im in two minds at the minute. Im sorry if you cant understand anything ive wrote, im not good at explaining situations. I just dont know what to do.

Thank you so much for caring for these cats.  Is there any way you could get access to a humane trap?  Some vets do not want to treat feral cats, but if they are in a humane trap it is easier for them to sedate the cat if needed and then exam and treat the cat.  Most of the spay/neuter clinics in my area require a feral cat to be in a humane trap.  If you can pet/touch the cats they are most likely stray cats who have previously had human contact.  Yet, they may have developed a feral nature by living on their own for a while. 

If you do use a cat carrier and can get the cat to the vet that would be best.  Maybe try a different vet.  Call around and see if you can find a vet that is better with ferals.  Maybe there is a rescue group in your area that could give you the name of a vet they use or even help you out with a trap if needed.

Welcome to to forums and thank you for helping these cats.

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flumpyjack said:

 
Hello everyone, Im natalia, and im 20. For the past two years i have been feeding feral cats arround my back alley. Since then 3 feral cats have made their home in my back yard (mammy cat, daddy cat, and pointy face) As i built a big cat house thing for them to stay in for shelter. I feed them daily but theyre free to roam anywhere they want. Mammy is neutered but the boys arent. 

In march this year i had to get pointyface put to sleep, because he was very ill.

Now the reason i made this forum....

A new feral cat has been coming into my yard for feeding, i dont know whether shes given birth or if shes still pregnant but her nipples are extremely large. With out sounding too mean, she really does smell bad. Shes thin, and she has her own feces all over her and it looks like shes got bad diarrhea. I want to take her to the vets to get neutered but 1. i dont know if shes given birth, if so, i dont want her to leave her kittens for so long without her as they could die. 2. when pointyface got put to sleep (because he was feral and didnt know what a cat box was) he urinated and was sick in the cat carrier and the vets said that was another reason he was put to sleep. cause when we opened the box for him to come out, he was laying in his diarrhea and didnt move. I dont want this other cat uranating in the box incase she gets put down for it. (Im almost certain the vets didnt want to treat pointy face) Im in two minds at the minute. Im sorry if you cant understand anything ive wrote, im not good at explaining situations. I just dont know what to do.

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Some reflexions.   My guess re why the vet pts pointy face, is  they though he was hopelessly ill.  So sick he wasted on himself,  Laying down in his wastes, not trying to move from there even when you opened the box.

You dont write exactly WHY you took him to vets then and there - was it just for neutering, or was he ill??   But the vets surely thought he was ill. Severly ill.   And they though, if they do examine him, they must charge you for the examination, and they still will almost surely pts him, because he is severly ill.    And also, they must clean off their exam room and their clothes and intruments...

So, if money for examination and treatment is no problem for you, tell it, so the vet wont try to spare your money and your feelings, and  recommend a pts just to spare you.   Which I think they often do, with patients whom dont have insurance nor money...  Sparing the customers feelings.

Ok, re this smelly mom.   I suspect giving her a bath is no option, she is too shy?    Soaking her with warm water inside the trap may perhaps be an option, then??   If you fear the vets will object to treating a smelly cat full of filth...

Tell the vet the situation.  If they do the surgery through her flank, and use a self disselving tread, she can be released even as soon as 24 hours after the neutering.   This is not optimal, but its done so sometimes, with moms who do have kittens outside.

All surviving semiferales and succesfull homeless have a quickly healing meat, and immune systeme above average.  They must have, otherwise they wouldnt survive that far.

Also, if she has problems with diarrhea, give her pedialyte instead of common drinking water.

Im pasting in  from another post I wrote re pedialyte, and its use against diarrheas.

PEDIALYTE

Pedialyte, continuation.  Exactly which you give, depends on what you do have at hand.    Ask your neigbours for help, if the shops are closed!!!

If bought, the best is some unflavored baby version.   But if flavored are the only one at hand, you can use them to begin with.

Of homemade,  do you have mineral salt and glucose sugar = dextrose?  These salt respective sugar source are the best

If  you havent,  common kitchen sugar, and white caro syrup, or even honey, are OK.    Even common white sugar works, but much slower.

One basic receipt, is

1 litre water.   1,5 tea spoons salt  1,5-2 soup spoons  sugar source...  A little baking soda= bikarbonat, if you have.   Boil up, let it be room temp again. Use.   Dont spare too long.

Another is,   take some rice,  boil it too long, more than in a food recipe.

Use the water, add some salt.

My favorite at this moment, is you take a bottle of a good minerale water.  They contain lotsa of different, good salts and electrolytes.

You let the gas out, and add some sugar source, about half soup spoon  in a 33 ml bottle.   Be sure the sugar gets  diluted in there as it shall.

And voilá, you do have an excellent home made pedialyte...

Make sure the pedialyte you give, is body warm.

Basic home made pedialyte is the main weapon against the great manslaughter  Cholera,  so dont underestimate this....

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Thank you so much for caring for these cats.  Is there any way you could get access to a humane trap?  Some vets do not want to treat feral cats, but if they are in a humane trap it is easier for them to sedate the cat if needed and then exam and treat the cat.  Most of the spay/neuter clinics in my area require a feral cat to be in a humane trap.  If you can pet/touch the cats they are most likely stray cats who have previously had human contact.  Yet, they may have developed a feral nature by living on their own for a while. 

If you do use a cat carrier and can get the cat to the vet that would be best.  Maybe try a different vet.  Call around and see if you can find a vet that is better with ferals.  Maybe there is a rescue group in your area that could give you the name of a vet they use or even help you out with a trap if needed.

Welcome to to forums and thank you for helping these cats.

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I think she must be a stray then because she loves being petted, and purrs too!

Yes i can get access to a humane trap And there is a rescue group, but whenever ive needed their help in the past, theyve turned their noses up at me. It took 2 month of calling and pestering for them to help mammy cat get neutered, by that time she was already pregnant again! But thankyou for the advise! I will look online and call about places

And thankyou for the welcome!

flumpyjack said:

 
I think she must be a stray then because she loves being petted, and purrs too!

Yes i can get access to a humane trap And there is a rescue group, but whenever ive needed their help in the past, theyve turned their noses up at me. It took 2 month of calling and pestering for them to help mammy cat get neutered, by that time she was already pregnant again! But thankyou for the advise! I will look online and call about places

And thankyou for the welcome!

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Ah, so she is handleable!  It makes it easier for everyone.   And thus, you can give her some dewormer-  I suppose you do have good, safe dewormers?  As spot on or even in pill?

Since you can pet her and probably handle her then she will be ok in a cat carrier.  I would just call ahead to the vet and ask if they will examine the stray cat.  Tell them you do not know the history, but that you are looking to help the cat and care for the cat after.  I know some vets feel that you are just being a kind soul and have no intention of caring for the cat after the exam and for treatment. 

Rescue groups are usually swamped.  It takes them a long time since their list of people to help is huge.  I broke down and purchased my own humane trap to have on hand.  I then use a low cost spay/neuter clinic that doesn't require an appointment as long as the cat is in a humane trap.  It takes a lot of pressure off trapping.  The clinic will spay/neuter and vaccinate the cat. 

I hope you can get this one to the vet and also get the remainder spayed/neutered.  Humane traps can be purchased for around $30-40 for a basic one.  A really great trap runs closer to $80.  It just depends on how much trapping you need to do.