Food help please

bbdoll22 · Jul 27, 2015

2 years ago after multiple blockages from struvite crystals Domino had a cystotomy. He's been symptom free with clean urinalisys since.
With my vet, who loves hills food (ugh), we want to switch Domino to a quality non rx food that is low in phosphorus, magnesium and ash.
Does anyone have any idea of a good food or have any experience with this issue? i would greatly appreciate your input.
Thanks!

2cats4me · Jul 27, 2015

BBDOLL22 said:
2 years ago after multiple blockages from struvite crystals Domino had a cystotomy. He's been symptom free with clean urinalisys since.
With my vet, who loves hills food (ugh), we want to switch Domino to a quality non rx food that is low in phosphorus, magnesium and ash.
Does anyone have any idea of a good food or have any experience with this issue? i would greatly appreciate your input.
Thanks!

Daves makes a canned diet that may be what you need ..

http://www.chewy.com/cat/daves-pet-food-restricted-diet/dp/101615

Purina Pro Plan makes one too ..

http://www.chewy.com/cat/purina-pro-plan-focus-adult-urinary/dp/52846

You may also find this chart helpful .. It gives the Phosphorus level in most canned foods ..

http://www.catinfo.org/docs/SortableCatFoodChartCatinfo.org2-22-13.htm

bbdoll22 · Jul 27, 2015

2 2cats4me
I have only seen Dave's in pâté. He hates pâtés.
My vet said no purina, friskies or meow mix.
I've been on the catinfo.org all afternoon and can't find a wet food that won't take us broke. I do appreciate your help, keep it coming please

I'm ready to give up and feed friskies urinary wet from what I've read it's better than the hills rx c/d DRY food he's eating.
Argh why is this so hard?

2cats4me · Jul 27, 2015

BBDOLL22 said:
@2Cats4Me
I have only seen Dave's in pâté. He hates pâtés.
My vet said no purina, friskies or meow mix.
I've been on the catinfo.org all afternoon and can't find a wet food that won't take us broke. I do appreciate your help, keep it coming please

I'm ready to give up and feed friskies urinary wet from what I've read it's better than the hills rx c/d DRY food he's eating.
Argh why is this so hard?

Oh , I am sorry those won't work for you . I will keep looking .. So it has to be shreds or chunks ?

Purina Friskies does not make the urinary formula anymore ..

2cats4me · Jul 27, 2015

@BBDOLL22...

These two might work for you . It is sold at Petco ..

Nutrition Information

Good Karma
Chicken Dinner - In Gravy

Ingredients:
Water Sufficient For Processing, Chicken, Tapioca Starch, Sunflower Seed Oil, Tricalcium Phosphate, Xanthan Gum, Choline Chloride, Taurine, Vitamin E Supplement, Zinc Sulfate, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B1), Nicotinic Acid (Vitamin B3), Ferrous Sulfate, Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin A Supplement, Potassium Iodide, Manganese Sulfate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Copper Sulfate, Riboflavin Supplement (Vitamin B2), Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Folic Acid, Vitamin B12 Supplement

Guaranteed Analysis:
Crude Protein (min) 10%, Crude Fat (min) 1.1%, Crude Fiber (max) 0.5%, Moisture (max) 84%, Ash (max) 2.0%, Calcium (max) 0.25%, Phosphorus (max) 0.25%, Magnesium (max) 0.03%, Taurine (min) 0.05%

Harvest Sunrise
Chicken & Pumpkin Dinner - In Gravy

Ingredients:
Water Sufficient For Processing, Chicken, Pumpkin, Tapioca Starch, Sunflower Seed Oil, Spinach, Tricalcium Phosphate, Xanthan Gum, Choline Chloride, Taurine, Vitamin E Supplement, Zinc Sulfate, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B1), Nicotinic Acid (Vitamin B3), Ferrous Sulfate, Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin A Supplement, Potassium Iodide, Manganese Sulfate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Copper Sulfate, Riboflavin Supplement (Vitamin B2), Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Folic Acid, Vitamin B12 Supplement

Guaranteed Analysis:
Crude Protein (min) 8.0%, Crude Fat (min) 1.1%, Crude Fiber (max) 0.5%, Moisture (max) 84%, Ash (max) 2.0%, Calcium (max) 0.25%, Phosphorus (max) 0.25%, Magnesium (max) 0.03%, Taurine (min) 0.05%

bbdoll22 · Jul 27, 2015

Oh crap.
I really think, but I may be wrong, feel free to tell me if anyone disagreees, that since he will be on methigel as long as he has wet food he'd be okay? Input ladies and gents please.
2 2cats4me
Keep it coming.
It's been a bad week death in my family, my human boy has lymes and with 5 cats 2 kids I'm tired.
And the kids won't let me call or look anything up

bbdoll22 · Jul 27, 2015

Thanks I was looking at the soulistic and weruva only drawback is price for 5 cats and its manufactured in Thailand.
That makes me worry about quality.

mrsgreenjeens · Jul 27, 2015

Methigel DOES say "along with a proper diet", so not sure just using this alone would be ok, especially since your boy had multiple blockages.

WHY is your Vet opposed to Purina? They are taking over just about every pet food company out there, it seems

And when it comes to Urinary Food, there really aren't that many choices, especially non-RX. (You DO know Hills makes it in cans, some of which are not Pate, right?)

Fussie Cat makes a low magnesium food for your purposes also. Here's a link: http://www.wag.com/cat/p/fussie-cat...h low magnesium canned cat food&cookies_set=1

Oh, and Weruva and Soulistic, even though manufactured in Thailand, are very good brands.

bbdoll22 · Jul 27, 2015

mrsgreenjeens
My vet is pro hills and thinks anything you can get at grocery is bad.
She wants him on a low phos, mag and ash diet over the counter as the hills C/D brought him up to 21 lbs.

bbdoll22 · Jul 27, 2015

He also won't eat any RX wet food even chunky style.
Before he got crystals he ate weruva, wellness, evo, merrick,tiki ,you name it but I was ignorant and he ate alot of fish, my fault.
It's been 2 years if clean urinalysis no crystals nothing. So at him being 21 lbs she thinks reg food with methigel is better than feeding all 5 of my cats hillsC/D.

mrsgreenjeens · Jul 27, 2015

BBDOLL22 said:
@mrsgreenjeens
My vet is pro hills and thinks anything you can get at grocery is bad.
She wants him on a low phos, mag and ash diet over the counter as the hills C/D brought him up to 21 lbs.

Were you free feeding him that C/D kibble? I thought YOU wanted to switch him to something else. My mistake. So, he needs to lose weight as well as maintain a low PH, etc. diet?

Canned is definitely the way to go to lose weight, and is always best (IMHO) for urinary issues just because more moisture helps flush things out. Unfortunately, for weight loss purposes, low carb is usually the way to go, but MOST urinary food are not going to be low carb. The Weruva and Soulistc are probably your best bet, if your Vet thinks they are low enough in what counts, and they are extremely low in calories.

bbdoll22 · Jul 27, 2015

I'm sorry if I seem short to anyone but I'm 45 years old and have 2 humans 5 years 3 years I'm tired.

mrsgreenjeens · Jul 27, 2015

Is there any reason you need to feed all five cats the same thing? Can't you separate this boy out of the herd at feeding time. Might it be risky feeding everyone else low phos,and magnesium whenthey don't have a problem? Not to mention the expense?

bbdoll22 · Jul 27, 2015

mrsgreenjeens said:
Were you free feeding him that C/D kibble? I thought YOU wanted to switch him to something else. My mistake. So, he needs to lose weight as well as maintain a low PH, etc. diet?

Canned is definitely the way to go to lose weight, and is always best (IMHO) for urinary issues just because more moisture helps flush things out. Unfortunately, for weight loss purposes, low carb is usually the way to go, but MOST urinary food are not going to be low carb. The Weruva and Soulistc are probably your best bet, if your Vet thinks they are low enough in what counts, and they are extremely low in calories.

Exactly, vet wants to and I agree with her

bbdoll22 · Jul 27, 2015

Yes free feeding c/d kibble.

bbdoll22 · Jul 28, 2015

mrsgreenjeens said:
Is there any reason you need to feed all five cats the same thing? Can't you separate this boy out of the herd at feeding time. Might it be risky feeding everyone else low phos,and magnesium whenthey don't have a problem? Not to mention the expense?

I've tried feeding him away from everyone else but it didnt work, all my cats are grazers

2cats4me · Jul 28, 2015

BBDOLL22 said:
Yes free feeding c/d kibble.

Are you looking for wet food or dry food ?

bbdoll22 · Jul 28, 2015

Wet food

2cats4me · Jul 28, 2015

BBDOLL22 said:
Wet food

It is too bad you cannot feed Friskies because they have several non pate formulas that are low in ash and phosphorus ..

bbdoll22 · Jul 28, 2015

I would love to feed the friskies. IMO any wet is better than dry. The higher end wet is soooo expensive.
My vet feels that all grocery store food is like McDonald's for cats.

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