Nature's Variety now has Instinct canned LID Rabbit - and changes in caloric content of the regular

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It looks like Nature's Variety has added rabbit to their canned Instinct Limited Ingredient Diet line of cat and dog foods.

http://www.instinctpetfood.com/product/instinct-limited-ingredient-canned-cat-food-rabbit

Other than the removal of fruits and vegetables, it looks like the big difference is that they once again are using rabbit liver rather than pork liver (only in the LID can) which was the type of liver used in the original formula several years ago. The caloric content of the LID Instinct Rabbit 5.5 oz can is 178 calories while the regular Instinct rabbit .5.5 oz. can is 162 calories. For some reason, the latter has been reduced by 58 calories per 5.5 oz. can! The regular Instinct Rabbit formula used to contain 220 calories per 5.5 oz. as per their website but they recently revised it on the label and the website. There doesn't seem to be a change in formula, so I'm not really sure of the reason. Here's the comparison from their site. The omegas have been lowered in the LID cans and there doesn't seem to be a vitamin/mineral analysis as of yet:

Instinct LID Rabbit:

Calorie Content (calculated)
Metabolizable Energy

1,145 kcal/kg
97 kcal/3 oz can
178 kcal/5.5 oz can

Guaranteed Analysis
Crude Protein (min): 10.0%
Crude Fat (min): 4.5%
Crude Fiber (max): 3.0%
Moisture (max): 78.0%
*Omega 6 Fatty Acids (min): 0.65%
*Omega 3 Fatty Acids (min): 0.10%

Ingredients:
Rabbit, Water, Rabbit Liver, Peas, Montmorillonite Clay, Dicalcium Phosphate, Potassium Chloride, Calcium Carbonate, Salt, Minerals (Iron Proteinate, Zinc Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Manganese Proteinate, Sodium Selenite, Potassium Iodide), Vitamins (Vitamin E Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate, Niacin Supplement, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin Supplement, Vitamin A Supplement, Biotin, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Folic Acid), Choline Chloride, Taurine


Regular Formula:


Calorie Content (calculated)
Metabolizable Energy

1,040 kcal/kg
162 kcal/can - 5.5 oz
88 kcal/can - 3 oz can

Guaranteed Analysis

Crude Protein (min): 10.0%
Crude Fat (min): 4.5%
Crude Fiber (max): 3.0%
Moisture (max): 78.0%
Calcium (min): 0.25%
Phosphorus (min): 0.20%
Vitamin E (min): 25 IU/kg
*Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C) (min): 30 mg/kg
*Omega 6 Fatty Acids (min): 0.90%
*Omega 3 Fatty Acids (min): 0.15%

Vitamins
Vitamin D: 578 IU/kg
Thiamin (Vitamin B1): 6.7 mg/kg
Riboflavin (Vitamin B2): 7.6 mg/kg
Pyridoxine (Vitamin B6): 4.0 mg/kg
Folic Acid: 0.51 mg/kg
Vitamin B12: 0.089 mg/kg


Minerals
Magnesium: 0.03%
Sodium: 0.17%
Potassium: 0.4%
Zinc: 51.7 ppm
Copper: 6.7 ppm

Ingredients:
Rabbit, Pork Liver, Water, Ground Flaxseed, Montmorillonite Clay, Tricalcium Phosphate, Peas, Carrots, Lecithin, Dried Kelp, Potassium Chloride, Salt, Calcium Carbonate, Minerals (Zinc Proteinate, Iron Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Manganese Proteinate, Sodium Selenite, Cobalt Proteinate, Potassium Iodide), Vitamins (Vitamin E Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate, Niacin Supplement, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin Supplement, Vitamin A Supplement, Biotin, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Folic Acid), Taurine, L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate, Choline Chloride, Artichokes, Cranberries, Pumpkin, Tomato, Blueberries, Broccoli, Cabbage, Kale, Parsley


Guaranteed Analysis for products with "best if used by date" prior to 3/15/18


Calories
120 per 3 oz can
220 per 5.5 oz can

Guaranteed Analysis
Crude Protein (min): 10.0%
Crude Fat (min): 4.5%
Crude Fiber (max): 3.0%
Moisture (max): 78.0%
 
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Is there a question in there somewhere? ;)
How about "what happened to the 58 calories in the original formula"?. One might also wonder if there's more meat in the LID cans as there's 16 more calories, and if the fruits and vegetables have been removed, how is the protein and fat analysis the same for both formulas? I was hoping someone else who's interested in this food would bring it up as I didn't want to put everything in one post.
 
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How about "what happened to the 58 calories in the original formula"?. One might also wonder if there's more meat in the LID cans as there's 16 more calories, and if the fruits and vegetables have been removed, how is the protein and fat analysis the same for both formulas? I was hoping someone else who's interested in this food would bring it up as I didn't want to put everything in one post.
I've been using the LID rabbit canned since it became available in NYC (I posted a link re: NV's LID rabbit on TCS about a month ago), however, I had not analyzed the calorie and nutrient composition as much as you have. 

I'm sorry I don't really have an answer to your question, however, I'm glad they removed the flaxseed oil in the rabbit LID - cats really can't digest plant based oils.

Hopefully others will chime in with an answer to your question.:)
 

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Is there a question in there somewhere?
How about "what happened to the 58 calories in the original formula"?. One might also wonder if there's more meat in the LID cans as there's 16 more calories, and if the fruits and vegetables have been removed, how is the protein and fat analysis the same for both formulas? I was hoping someone else who's interested in this food would bring it up as I didn't want to put everything in one post.
 I wondered if that might be what you were getting at, but wasn't sure
, however, I would think THAT answer might require someone with a degree in Nutritional Sciences.  But remember, what's listed on the can and the website is Minimums and Maximums, NOT exact figures, except for the calories.

My guess would be that the LID is slightly higher in Kcals because more meat and no fruits and vegies, but as you said, one would THINK that would make the protein higher, and even though these figures are not "set in stone", expect the protein to be slightly higher.

HOW they lost 58 calories in the new formula is anyone's guess.   But I misspeak...it isn't even a new formula, right?  ALL that changed is the amount of calories listed on the can?  Nothing indicates a new formula?  Have you called the company and asked them what that's all about?  Maybe they analyzed it and discovered they were wrong on the OLD label? 
 

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HOW they lost 58 calories in the new formula is anyone's guess.   But I misspeak...it isn't even a new formula, right?  ALL that changed is the amount of calories listed on the can?  Nothing indicates a new formula?  Have you called the company and asked them what that's all about?  Maybe they analyzed it and discovered they were wrong on the OLD label?  :dk:
The LID canned rabbit is a new formula, unless NV used to make it years ago, discontinued it and brought it back, it is new. Only the canned rabbit with pork liver and other veggies has been around the past few years. The LID rabbit canned has been available the last couple months.
 
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