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Michael Jackson & the Nation of Islam?

post #1 of 21
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There's a report on AOL Germany today that Michael Jackson has converted to Islam under the tutelage of Louis Farrakhan and is running around with a Black Muslim bodyguard. I haven't seen anything about this on CNN or USA Today, and didn't even bother checking in the NY Times. Is this a hoax?
post #2 of 21
Probably not, his brother Jermaine converted some time ago, and runs around looking like royalty in his garb now. He was probably instrumental in helping Michael to convert.
post #3 of 21
Not that I follow the activities of Michael Jackson but I did do a quick search on Yahoo and found this article. It seems that MA is right. Jermaine certainly did have something to do with the conversion.

Just hope Michael Jackson doesn't cause more controversy by upsetting the followers of Islam with his interpretation of dress and behaviour.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...n_031218154730
post #4 of 21
I saw it on NBC news tonight. His brother has been after him to convert for a long time.

I am not fond of the Nation of Islam's doctrine of hatred and racism. I don't see how they can accept Jackson..... after all, isn't he white? Seems to me he has gone out of his way to cover up his blackness all his adult life.

BTW Nation of Islam is not the same as mainstream Islam. The biggest difference is they believe they had or have a modern day prophet and the Quran says there is no prophet after Mohammed. And NOI preaches to hate the white man as well as others. It's membership is exclusive to African Americans and was started in modern times. (Not to say that all AFrican Americans are NOI).
post #5 of 21
This is just another one of "Calypso Louie" Farrakhan's ploys to garner publicity and maybe scam some money. As for the bodyguard - Farrakhan has been running a "rent-a-thug" operation, for many years.
post #6 of 21
Also according to the history lessons I learned in school radical muslims were one of the worst slave traders way back when. Selling slaves that eventually ended up in the Americas.
post #7 of 21
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Originally posted by hissy
Also according to the history lessons I learned in school radical muslims were one of the worst slave traders way back when. Selling slaves that eventually ended up in the Americas.
Hissy is right: Arab slave traders bought or captured Africans, from the interior and transported them to "slave factories" on the coasts. The slaves were purchased by European and American slavers, who resold them to whichever slave ship came calling.

Sadly, many of these Africans were sold BY THEIR OWN PEOPLE, to the slave catchers.
post #8 of 21
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Having read "The Autobiography of Malcolm X" in high school, and then again as an adult, I have to say it's not an organization that I admire, and Louis Farrakhan can, IMO, rightfully be called a racist (remember when he called Asian-Americans "leeches"?) I was just astounded to hear about this, because surely it's a bad move on Jackson's part if he's going to be facing a "jury of his peers"? Didn't he learn anything in his dispute with Sony? I really don't believe most Americans thought of O.J. Simpson in terms of race before, or immediately after, the murder of Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman, and were dismayed when the defense played the "race card". Who can forget how that polarized society? And now MJ, who doesn't even look "black" anymore, but like a melted Barbie, has had two white wives and has been idolized by millions of all races, is going to try the same strategy?
post #9 of 21
Blimey

All you American Guys are so cool and restrained. I thought it was supposed to be us Brits that were laid back.

Personally, I think he's a man with serious bloody issues, blatently a danger to kids, and I think the authorities have got him this time.

As for the nation of Islam, they are a bunch of cultish lunatics, who actually believe a great deal that is contrary to the teaching of islam. This is the same organisation that believes Allah exists in the guise of a person called Fard Muhammad, who claimed that he went to the top of a sacred mountain in Mexico where he was taken in a UFO to a "mother wheel"

Michael Jackson has apparantly signed up to this lunacy and been renamed Jacko X.

Nutters, the lot of them

I suspect Michael will shortly be thereafter be known as Prisoner #4358732, but that is, of course, merely a personal opinion

Regards
post #10 of 21
Actually, Michael may soon be know as "Sweet Cheeks", to a 300-lb gorilla, named "Bubba".
post #11 of 21
We can only hope!
I heard that they sent his German manager that has handled his career since he went solo, on some wild goose chase, while he was gone surrounded him with NOI thugs, and Calypso Louie is now his advisor. His manager is no longer allowed access to him. This may also be wrong, but it was on the news this morning.
I don't care what color he turns himself, he is still a freak, and a pervert. I hope it doesn't turn in to such a circus and freak show that they can claim he was not given a fair trial. I can't believe his brother is saying he was mistreated in jail, just because he was handcuffed. Last I heard, they handcuff ALL accused criminals when they are arrested, and only cuffed HIM right before they got him out of the car.
post #12 of 21
ROTFL jcat "melted barbie!" Perfect description. They did an interview with a few prisoners of the prison MJ would go to and asked the inmates if MJ showed up would he be safe? It was unanimously declared among the masses "NO WAY!"
post #13 of 21
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Originally posted by jcat
Having read "The Autobiography of Malcolm X" in high school, and then again as an adult, I have to say it's not an organization that I admire, and Louis Farrakhan can, IMO, rightfully be called a racist (remember when he called Asian-Americans "leeches"?) I was just astounded to hear about this, because surely it's a bad move on Jackson's part if he's going to be facing a "jury of his peers"? Didn't he learn anything in his dispute with Sony? I really don't believe most Americans thought of O.J. Simpson in terms of race before, or immediately after, the murder of Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman, and were dismayed when the defense played the "race card". Who can forget how that polarized society? And now MJ, who doesn't even look "black" anymore, but like a melted Barbie, has had two white wives and has been idolized by millions of all races, is going to try the same strategy?
When Malcolm X was killed during a rally in NYC at the famous (but no longer existing) Audubon Ballroom,it was believed that Farrakhan had ordered the assassination because Malcolm was starting to become more centrist & had began to renounce his earlier views.They were never able to prove that however.

I don't want to offend anyone with this comment by a friend of mine, who is black, who mentioned to me that her step-nephew, who is a very sweet but easily led young fellow, had recently become a Scientologist. I was a bit surprised - I thought they only converted movie stars - and she said something like 'well before that, he got into the Nation of Islam, so we kind of think this is a step up for him.' (She and the rest of the family are Baptists, I believe.)

I would be very surprised if Jackson's defense took the 'racial defense' approach.I think it will be more " the DA in question has been out to get him for 10 years, people want his $$ etc" defense.
I don't even think Simpson's jury thought he was not guilty, but rather engaged in so-called 'jury-nullification' because of they were angered by the Mark Fuhrman stuff. Plus, the DA was an idiot to not have OJ tried by a jury of his real peers, in Brentwood. He made a conscious decision to have the trial in LA, and the rest was history. I don't recall his reasoning for the move, but I don't think that anyone in LA would have rioted over Simpson being convicted in Brentwood. I think they acquitted him because they felt Fuhrman's testimony as a slur on them, not OJ.

It's a bit off topic, but I wonder if any woman actually dates OJ now?? Supposedly, he also regularly smacked his first wife (who was black) around quite badly.
post #14 of 21
The claim that he was mistreated and roughed up, during booking is totally without merit. Mark Geragos was right there, the whole time and you KNOW that he would have thrown a hissy fit, if anything untoward had happened. As a matter of fact, when speaking to the press afterward, he COMPLIMENTED the Santa Barbara County Sheriff's Dept. on their professionalism and courtesy. The charges of mistreatment came from Jermaine, on a call-in show. Jermaine is the same one who stated, "Michael is not eccentric." I think that Jermaine is more out of touch with reality than Michael.
post #15 of 21
Thread Starter 
Jermaine was also the one mouthing off about "lynch justice". Yes, he needs a reality check, too.
post #16 of 21
There's a 60 Minute special in Australia tonight. No doubt this will probably air in the USA as well. I'm going to watch it to see what his family wants to say in defence of Michael. Though more interested whether Jermaine is going to play the race card.
post #17 of 21
BTW: where have Jesse Jackson and Johnnie Cochran been, during all of this? Do you suppose that even THESE two media-hogs have gotten sick of Michael Jackson, too?
post #18 of 21
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Originally posted by katl8e
BTW: where have Jesse Jackson and Johnnie Cochran been, during all of this? Do you suppose that even THESE two media-hogs have gotten sick of Michael Jackson, too?
I don't know about Jesse Jackson, but Johnnie Cochran has apparently been on Larry King a couple of times to discuss the case - I didn't tune in. I refuse to listen to anything he says, after his "twin devils of deception" and comparing Fuhrman to Adolf Hitler. That was an utter disgrace, particularly because the Goldmans are Jewish. He also had to know that Nicole Brown's mother was from Germany. IMO, he also hurt a lot of black defendants who have been victims of racism - who isn't more sceptical of such defense claims following Cochran's claims in OJI?
post #19 of 21
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Originally posted by Lucia
It's a bit off topic, but I wonder if any woman actually dates OJ now?? Supposedly, he also regularly smacked his first wife (who was black) around quite badly.
I haven't read any reports on his romantic life since his engagement fizzled. He was in the news several weeks ago when the death of his friend Robert Kardashian was announced (whom I totally misunderstood until I saw the expression on his face at Simpson's acquittal and read "American Tragedy" by Lawrence Schiller and James Willwerth). Lately there have been reports that he might act as a commentator during the Robert Blake trial. Now that would be weird. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/2976463.stm
post #20 of 21
I didn't watch the 60 minute special in the end. I gave Russell and Esper a bath instead much to their disgust.
post #21 of 21
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Originally posted by katl8e
Hissy is right: Arab slave traders bought or captured Africans, from the interior and transported them to "slave factories" on the coasts. The slaves were purchased by European and American slavers, who resold them to whichever slave ship came calling.

Sadly, many of these Africans were sold BY THEIR OWN PEOPLE, to the slave catchers.
This is still happening.
The links below contain information that some may find disturbing.
slavery in Sudan
http://www.cnn.com/2000/WORLD/africa...n.slaves.reut/



He obviously hasn't thought about how this will affect his biracial children- are they supposed to hate themselves now?



"melted Barbie"! Too accurate
Disturbing that he could find surgeons willing to do that to him.
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