Newborn kitten of 8 days old having pimples on head?

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Stefan we put her back in her nest as soon as she eats as i said shes restless in hands and meowing, so usually she falls asleep on her teddy bear soon after. Maybe we should take her like 20min afte feeding? In this time she usually doesnt want to demand for more milk
You dont  burp her like a baby?   It isnt strictly necessary,  I didnt  insisted on it in my first days of advising - and helping newborns.  But later on I get convinced burping is wise to do...

So, burp and stimulate.  It goes more or less by reflexes => eating and the reflex to eliminate.  By stimulating minutes after feeding you are helping her reflexes.

Compare with puppies.  You are supposed to carry out the dog puppy minutes after feeding, so it will relieve herself...
 
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@stefanZ so you mean we'd give her yoghurt to eat like just sometimes to maintain good bacteria flora? but as she only drinks kmr on bottle now I dn't see how we could do it? =)
Yes, that is the idea.  You can either blend some with the kmr, or instead of kmr, sometimes.   She doesnt need much, really a teaspoon sometimes is enough.

Its good nourishment, so she wont miss much.  Just be sure its body temp...

Why, if  you had run out of kmr and you are desperate, you can probably give her such a turkish youghurt till you get real kmr... or goat milk.  She will survive a good while on such a youghurt.
 
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@StefanZ yes we burp her. Bur sometimes she doesnt burp, or she burps a minute later when we put her in the nest. Is it important that she burps everytime?

Though this little baby had a little incident earlier. Lately she's so excited to eat that shes panting and then she drank from bottle too fast and she started coughing. I put her upside down, scared that it might get into her lungs, she wouldnt stop coughing, then i stimulated her chest and belly while holding her still upside and somehow she got better, thank god.

How can we prevent this from happening again? She scared us a bunch. She's eating 3 hours apart, but i dont get it why she gets so excited to eat.

As for yoghurt, thanks for the tip. I didn't know it can go as replacement of formula sometimes. So you're saying yoghurt would also sate her longer than kmr? You know lately we arranged all our schedules so that we don't spend more than 3 hours outside if we got some errands or something, because we think she must be fed, but really whats some actual threshold she can hold with a meal? It's not about her being hungry waiting us, but as she's so young I think she shouldn't stay hunbgry for long right?

Also, since yoghurt is of a differenet consistency than kmr, if we bottled it and gave her the same way as milk, she should be able to suck it, right?
 

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@StefanZ yes we burp her. Bur sometimes she doesnt burp, or she burps a minute later when we put her in the nest. Is it important that she burps everytime?

Though this little baby had a little incident earlier. Lately she's so excited to eat that shes panting and then she drank from bottle too fast and she started coughing. I put her upside down, scared that it might get into her lungs, she wouldnt stop coughing, then i stimulated her chest and belly while holding her still upside and somehow she got better, thank god.

How can we prevent this from happening again? She scared us a bunch. She's eating 3 hours apart, but i dont get it why she gets so excited to eat.

As for yoghurt, thanks for the tip. I didn't know it can go as replacement of formula sometimes. So you're saying yoghurt would also sate her longer than kmr? You know lately we arranged all our schedules so that we don't spend more than 3 hours outside if we got some errands or something, because we think she must be fed, but really whats some actual threshold she can hold with a meal? It's not about her being hungry waiting us, but as she's so young I think she shouldn't stay hunbgry for long right?

Also, since yoghurt is of a differenet consistency than kmr, if we bottled it and gave her the same way as milk, she should be able to suck it, right?
Nay, I didnt sayd this.  I meant, in my praise of good youghurt, you can probably use it instead of kmr, if desperate.  At least for a while.  Till you get home kmr or goat milk.

You can dilute it a little with water if you need.

Hey, if you can get raw goat milk, do so.  I honestly believe this is really the best of them kmr´s.

Re a longer pause between feeding.   You can do it, of course.  she isnt critical any longer.   its common enough at  nights.   But totale amount of food on every 24 hours is the same, so you must give a little bigger portion on the remaining feedings.
 
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Thankj you @stefanZ

so what youre saying is if we are for example away for 6 hours, she would be fine. when we are back we would just give her like double portion of what she usually drinks at one feeding?

what about eliminating?

just tomorrow we are going for some event and we are thinkin what to do. Even if we took this water bag that holds warmth and put under blanket, keeping her in car in transporter, how good idea would it be? I mean is it still so critical to keep her warm? because we would have blankets and all in it and it wouldnt be hot or cold in car too much, around 25-30.c

and we would be close. we could just come to car if we would stay long so we would feed her on time. you think its doable or its not safe to carry her around yet?

and what about soild food. She was born on 5th may, so tomorrow she'll be 2 weeks. Could we try making her eat whiskas junior briquiettes yet? we would soak them in kmr and make it mushy like pasterized soup and then put on finger, but i dont know if she can eat like that yet or it it too early?
 

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You will not be able to give the kitten double the amount of food at one feeding you will have to feed her the yougurt before you go. Maybe take and feed the last 2 meals before you go about 1 hour apart if she will eat do not force food on the kitten. and then when you get back a normal feeding and see if she needs another feeding about an hour later if she will eat. As the kitten is 10 days old have you tried seeing if she will self feed? If she is able to get to a bowl and feed then possible leaving a little milk, yougurt or wet food mash where the kitten can reach it easily. I would not suggest every leaving any animal in a car no matter the weather as what we think is a safe temp inside the car can become to hot for any animal. If the kitten is feeding well with the bottle possibly you can rig the bottle where the kitten can find it. You can test it before you do by placing the bottle where the kitten can get it and see if it works. Is the kitten eliminating on its own better as that will help to. As the kitten gets older you can start placing a bowl where the kitten can learn to self feed. They do learn fast.
 

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Two week old kitten will NOT be able to eat or drink on its own beyond a bottle. Self- feeding begins to occur between 4 to 5 weeks old, and they still need supplemental formula and can only eat mush in the beginning, and some do not catch on as quickly to self-feeding as others. It's a process. Please do not take kitten in the car, and please try to minimize the time you are away at your event for the sake of the kitten. The first 3 weeks are critical! The kitten cannot regulate its body temperature, and it must eat every couple of hours. Good luck!
 
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I know the normal to wait until 4 weeks but I have seen where some kittens have been able to eat a little on their own before 4 weeks. There fore the suggestion of making a feeding location with the bottle and see how the kitten adapts. Though leaving the kitten for 6 hours is a long time you will need to make the choice trip or kitten.or compromise arriving late and leaving early from the event if that is an oprion. I have raised several litters where I also had to work and did not have family to help. You have to plan and provide.
 
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Thank you both for your reply. But i was thinking if we put this bottle. Milk wont be her body temp. It will be like cold a bit on room temperature. Like tepid I think. so would that even be okay?

So i see taking the kitten is our of question thts why we'll try this other option too. Maybe put a bit of kmr in a bottle cork and see if she can actually drink herself
 

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Kitten won't be drinking anything on her own at 2 weeks. She'll be famished and crying when you return after 6 hours. It's a long time for a 2-week old. Their tummies empty after 2 hours and they need to eat again to live. When I said bottle, I did not mean she could bottle feed herself. I meant sucking from a bottle is all they can manage at 2 weeks, but it must be given to her by someone, who needs to potty the baby after as well. Sorry for any misunderstanding.
 
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Yes. We tested this. put a bit kmr in a cork and all she did was walk over it and just went crazy meowing searching for bottle, cause of smelling kmr and getting it on her nose.
even we tried holding a bottle so shed find nipple and suck. She was moving around it going crazy again but never found the nipple.

The longest she held at regular feeding is 4.5 hrs. So well try to be back in 4 hours at least. If not well make my boyfriends parents feed her. They dobt know about feeding. His dad knows a bit but i think its not hard to hold bottle. The only thing i worry, the oitten is going crazy lately to dr8nk from nipple, shes kicking and pulling it close and drinking, even gulping so fast so sometimes she coughs so i worry for that because i hold her upside down and pat her back when that happens And they should know to do it
 

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Please explain to them how to feed the kitten! It is very important that she NOT be held like a human baby on her back to be fed! She must be fed on her tummy with head slightly up, as though she is feeding from mom. The coughing is from sucking too hard or fast and choking. If the formula goes in her lungs she will get pneumonia and die - literally in one day. I cannot over-emphasize this. She is crazy for the bottle because she is hungry and growing and needs to fill her tummy to survive. If they feed her, you must also instruct them how to stimulate her right after the feeding so she goes potty. She cannot do this on her own yet either. Her bottom must be stimulated so she can pee/poop or she will become unwell quickly. She also must be kept warm. Kittens that are not warm cannot digest. They are very fragile at this age.

I am glad that you have decided to only be gone for 4 hours. Your kitten is only little once and they grow quickly, but she needs a lot of careful attention right now to survive.

Do not assume that they know anything. Tell them everything you want them to know or you could risk your kitten's life. Please try not to be gone for too long!
 
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Yes well explain all of it. We will give them to test feed her to be really sure they can do in case it needs to be done.
Yes i know shes hungry and growing. But she started doing this since 2 ays ago. Shes going crazy when givinf her bottle and i dont know how to prevent this craziness. Even when we make her eliminate after meal in an hour she wont sleep and shes meowing climbng fence of transporter pushing head in holes and meowing wanting milk. Even shes so full now i can feel her belly is so tebse and shes still demandog for more. Like now I had to give her a few drops more or she wouldnt stop but her belly is really full and shes asking for more

Yes we know she needs this care still, so we rather come back earlier than make her hungry
 

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That is wonderful to hear! She is becoming more active now that she is growing. You can expect this to continue. Can you give her a little stuffed toy to sleep with and cuddle with and play with? She may be ready for a "companion" since she has no litter mates to nestle and play with. When she becomes even more active in the coming weeks, you will have to play with her yourselves and give her little cat toys since she has no mom or pals.

Either she is still hungry, or she wants to play a little and have some companionship. Though she cannot yet eat by herself, at this stage they normally begin to roll around and tussle gently with their siblings as a way to explore their little environment and skills. This is what she wants now, so you must give her a little bit of play. Not so much to overwhelm her but just enough to satisfy her curiosity and tire her out a bit. A little toy. A bit of string. A little more chance to move around the room.

How much does she drink each time from her bottle? This way we know if she is getting enough.
 
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She already has her stuffed toy we bought her from 1st day she came =) shes sleepig with it too. I wonder tho when shell start seeing. As she still has that blue film and doesn't see yet, but i think she can sense us. Because everytime i get closer to her nest she just suddenly wakes and starts meowing and getting excited.

Shes eating a bunch actually. For example heres last 3 days of feeding how much she ate every 3hr. Or less. As shes so demanding after eliminating
 
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She already has her stuffed toy we bought her from 1st day she came =) shes sleepig with it too. I wonder tho when shell start seeing. As she still has that blue film and doesn't see yet, but i think she can sense us. Because everytime i get closer to her nest she just suddenly wakes and starts meowing and getting excited.

Shes eating a bunch actually. For example heres last 3 days of feeding how much she ate every 3hr. Or less. As shes so demanding after eliminating
If the eyes are open, she is seeing, although in the beginning the vision isnt fully developed.   ALL kittens have blue eyes in the beginning.

If she is apparently not seeing for real, altough she has eyes open, she is prob blind...  (its very rare, but I suppose it happens now and then).   IF so, being a home indoors only cat, she will manage nicely, dont worry too much.  But you must plan some, to make it easier and safer for her.
 
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Stefan how do i know if she sees? She doesnt seem to see. Its like shes still looking at blank and when i moved my finger she doesnt follow it, but she knows when i come near her nest to feed her even when im silent
and shes not the only cat. We got a scottish fold and shes still hissing when she sees her. But i figure later shell have to get used to her. Because so far she would beat and hiss all cats being with her in apartment and i dont know why
 
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Stefan how do i know if she sees? She doesnt seem to see. Its like shes still looking at blank and when i moved my finger she doesnt follow it, but she knows when i come near her nest to feed her even when im silent
and shes not the only cat. We got a scottish fold and shes still hissing when she sees her. But i figure later shell have to get used to her. Because so far she would beat and hiss all cats being with her in apartment and i dont know why
1.  You will know more clearly with time... But as said, they manage quite well also without seeing, so sometimes it takes time and effort to notice they are really blind.  healthy kittens her age hasnt the vision developed as yet properly.   They either dont know the world as yet, so they havent learned yet what to follow with their eyes and what not.   So lets hope for the best!

But  blindness doesnt need to be any disaster.

If its possible for you, contacting your vet may be a solution to get sure knowledge.   IF, the vet perhaps even know some way to get her seeing back - although I dont think its possibly, but the vet may know anyway.

  You shall anyway do a vet visit, sooner or later.

Re your adult resident(?), the fold.  It seems she prefer to be alone.  But dont worry, they will be surely friends, or at least, learn to coexist.

As now, many adults are a little afraid of small kittens, they dont really know what it is.
 
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Thank you Stefan. Well i do hope in time it shows her eyes are just fine =) yes the fold seems to not like any company tho as we brought already big cats and she was beating them And hissing, so its not just about babies.

But well keep this baby on our eyes at all times so when we arent home when shes still small shell be in a room just to be safe.


However. Theres again this same problem . Early today in morning she drank like gulping again and started coughing. She scared us again. I dont know why shes going all crazy panting on the bottle and then swallows wrong. It scares and worries me as i dont want her to get aspirational pneumonia. Even if she had it i dont know what would be the signs? And what to do about this drinking of hers =(

And when she coughs im not sure if its right what i do. Holding her uspide down patting her back. As somewhere it says put them flat down and head hanging down from like a bed edge and pat their back. So which is right?
 
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