Nature's Variety LID rabbit canned - new

I was shopping for cat food this afternoon and noticed NV's new 3 oz LID (limited ingredient diet) rabbit canned food for cats. I picked up a couple of cans, my cats loved it, more so than NV's regular rabbit (which contains pork liver).

It's just rabbit and peas, and not many peas,  I always pick them out anyway.

As of this evening, it is not yet listed NV's web site under their LID canned formulas, however, if anyone is interested, you may want to inquire with your local indy pet food retailer.

Chewy has it listed but too bad its even more expensive than their regular rabbit formula

Lokhismom said:

 
Chewy has it listed but too bad its even more expensive than their regular rabbit formula

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Really? My retailer (in NYC) is charging the same price as the regular canned rabbit but I know - it's still expensive. I didn't see any 5.5 oz cans which would be more cost effective than the 3 oz cans.

I also found this canned food at my local pet food store, too! 

Currently my cat with IBD is on Nature's Variety LID Turkey, but my vet recommended rabbit, so I'm so happy to find it.

Still, it is not listed NV's web site under their LID canned formulas, yet. I wonder why... 

Anyway, does anyone give this to your cat with IBD? 

I hope it reaches Canadian stores soon!.

I have been giving my IBD cat the NV rabbit with the pork liver in it and he has done great on it.

That's great that your cat has done great on  the NV rabbit with the pork liver! 

As LisaMarie12 mentioned in the above post. there is the new product, NV "LID" rabbit canned.

I've been giving my IBD kitty the NV LID canned food turkey, and I'm thinking of switch to NV "LID" rabbit.

MommyTabby said:

 
That's great that your cat has done great on  the NV rabbit with the pork liver! 

As LisaMarie12 mentioned in the above post. there is the new product, NV "LID" rabbit canned.

I've been giving my IBD kitty the NV LID canned food turkey, and I'm thinking of switch to NV "LID" rabbit.

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So far so good on the LID rabbit canned, I've been using it since I first posted this info.

My cats are on mostly commercial raw, however, they get about 25% canned and NV is the only canned they can tolerate since it's gum free. I tried Tiki Cat, however, my cats get loose stools with chicken, despite TC being gum free, they are allergic to chicken.

Good luck.

mphscat said:

I have been giving my IBD cat the NV rabbit with the pork liver in it and he has done great on it.

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Great, glad to hear kitty is doing well. My cats liked NV's rabbit / pork as well but given a choice, they seem to like the LID a bit better which is interesting b/c pork usually adds flavor to a food, making it more palatable for some cats (and dogs).

Rubegot tired of the NV so i rotate d back to the NV rabbit but will gladly try the NV LID rabbit as soon as I can get a can to try from Pet Smart and then order it from chewy.com

LisaMarie12 said:

 
So far so good on the LID rabbit canned, I've been using it since I first posted this info.

My cats are on mostly commercial raw, however, they get about 25% canned and NV is the only canned they can tolerate since it's gum free. I tried Tiki Cat, however, my cats get loose stools with chicken, despite TC being gum free, they are allergic to chicken.

Good luck.

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Thank you for your feedback! Yes, it’s gum free and also carrageenan free, too! I’m bit concerned about Montmorillonite Clay though. 

MommyTabby said:

 
Thank you for your feedback! Yes, it’s gum free and also carrageenan free, too! I’m bit concerned about Montmorillonite Clay though. 

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I realize there has been some discussion of MC on various blogs, some are either for it or against it, it seems.

I personally don't have a problem with it (neither have my cats, from what I can tell), there are now several companies that use MC, even one commercial raw manufacturer has included it in their products. 

Here is a very thorough explanation from Nature's Logic re: MC that you may find useful:

http://natureslogic.blogspot.com/2010/09/natural-montmorillonite-clay-in-pet.html

LisaMarie12 said:

 
I realize there has been some discussion of MC on various blogs, some are either for it or against it, it seems.

I personally don't have a problem with it (neither have my cats, from what I can tell), there are now several companies that use MC, even one commercial raw manufacturer has included it in their products. 

Here is a very thorough explanation from Nature's Logic re: MC that you may find useful:

http://natureslogic.blogspot.com/2010/09/natural-montmorillonite-clay-in-pet.html

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Thank you LisaMarie12, for the link and feedback!

I noticed that the flaxseed oil was removed from the LID rabbit canned, I wonder why and if it will also be removed from the other LID canned formulas.

Edit: Maybe this is why, flaxseed oil may be useless in a cats' diet:

http://www.littlebigcat.com/nutrition/omega-3s-are-essential-for-your-cat/

In the body, the forms of Omega 3 needed are EPA and DHA. Because our pets cannot convert plant oils (such as flaxseed oil) into EPA and DHA to any significant extent, fish oils are the best way to supplement dogs and cats with essential fatty acids. The best fish oil supplements come from wild salmon (not farm-raised salmon) or non-predatory fish such as anchovies or herring. They must also be purified to remove heavy metals and other contaminants.

Okay - so I found out that the flaxseed oil was removed from the LID rabbit b/c there is enough Omega 3 w/o the flaxseed (if anyone is interested).

I've been feeding this now since I first posted this thread, so far so good; both my cats seem to like it more than the regular rabbit.

LisaMarie12 said:

 
I noticed that the flaxseed oil was removed from the LID rabbit canned, I wonder why and if it will also be removed from the other LID canned formulas.

Edit: Maybe this is why, flaxseed oil may be useless in a cats' diet:

http://www.littlebigcat.com/nutrition/omega-3s-are-essential-for-your-cat/

In the body, the forms of Omega 3 needed are EPA and DHA. Because our pets cannot convert plant oils (such as flaxseed oil) into EPA and DHA to any significant extent, fish oils are the best way to supplement dogs and cats with essential fatty acids. The best fish oil supplements come from wild salmon (not farm-raised salmon) or non-predatory fish such as anchovies or herring. They must also be purified to remove heavy metals and other contaminants.

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Thank you for the update, LisaMarie12.
I just checked LID turkey canned, and it still contained flaxseed oil. 

How about bones? LID turkey canned has a lot of tiny pieces of bones, how is LID rabbit canned? 
My cat with IBD doing well on the LID turkey, but I sometimes wonder if the bones can be difficult to digest for her IBD.  

I love the idea, but I wonder about supply issues. There's only so much they can get out of a rabbit, and if the demand for this is high enough, they'll be forced to get the rabbit from China again (if they haven't already).

GoHolistic said:

 
I love the idea, but I wonder about supply issues. There's only so much they can get out of a rabbit, and if the demand for this is high enough, they'll be forced to get the rabbit from China again (if they haven't already).

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I doubt it, NV made the switch last year from China to France with their rabbit, not b/c there were safety concerns with the rabbit from China since NV did have strict oversight of the sourcing facility, but rather, b/c customers were concerned about anything sourced from China, understandably, given the number of pets that died or became ill.

However, the rabbit from China was a higher grade, I fed my cats the rabbit when it came from China, for about a year - both the raw rabbit and canned, my cats never had a problem with it or got sick.

I trust NV is upfront with sourcing -- if they say the rabbit is coming from France, they aren't going to pull a fast one and covertly begin sourcing from China. 

I remember reading something interesting from the president of Weruva re: ingredient sourcing, this is from an interview from Conscious Cat, 2013:

http://consciouscat.net/2013/04/23/weruva-cat-food-review/

The taurine, and a few of the minerals, are sourced in China.

I generally don’t recommend diets with any ingredients sourced in China, but I wanted to understand why Weruva made this choice, given how much I like everything else about their diets. David Forman: “Indeed, country of origin has become a very important issue. What we have always maintained is that it is less about the country of origin and more about the quality control from a particular company and what proactive steps a company takes when they learn there is an issue. Many people are focused on “US only” production and feel it is the safest, but the reality about that is that the US has experienced and continues to experience higher rates of recall than most countries, including those in China.” Given the recent slew of pet food recalls, most of them for dry food, this point is well taken.

David continued to explain: “As it pertains to taurine, it does come from China. The last statistic I heard was that 98% of the world’s supply of taurine comes from China. I believe Japan produces the next highest amount, but when looking into sourcing from there, as supply is extremely limited in comparison to demand, new customers more or less get on a waiting list as the existing customers get priority. As to the other minerals from China, we have had no reason to doubt the quality of the ingredients or the availability thereof. While we do understand the concerns about China, suffice to say, sometimes unpopular decisions are still healthy ones.”

So I would agree him - who is overseeing / managing a facility where an ingredient is being sourced. In this case, taurine - it would seem just about every cat food with taurine would likely be sourced from China unless a manufacturer has indicated otherwise.

Peace and have a great day.

MommyTabby said:

 
Thank you for the update, LisaMarie12.
I just checked LID turkey canned, and it still contained flaxseed oil. 

How about bones? LID turkey canned has a lot of tiny pieces of bones, how is LID rabbit canned? 
My cat with IBD doing well on the LID turkey, but I sometimes wonder if the bones can be difficult to digest for her IBD.  

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Yes I noticed as well that the other LID formulas still have flaxseed oil.

Bones?! I've only used the LID turkey a couple of times, my cats didn't like it, however, I never ever noticed any bones, nor have I noticed any bones in the  new LID rabbit or any other canned Instinct. 

My cats are fed  about 75% commercial raw - with ground bones, one cat with IBD, never had a problem with it (his IBD is cured actually on the diet I have him on) but again, I've never seen or noticed bones in NV Instinct, however, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist if you have seen this, I just have never noticed it.

MommyTabby said:

 
How about bones? LID turkey canned has a lot of tiny pieces of bones, how is LID rabbit canned? 
My cat with IBD doing well on the LID turkey, but I sometimes wonder if the bones can be difficult to digest for her IBD.  

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It does? I fed my cats a whole case of LID Turkey and never saw pieces of bone (and I went through it pretty carefully, picking out the peas).