taking the step - making my own raw cat food

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Those of you who know Tim's story are familiar with his issues - extremely sensitive stomach, intolerance to certain ingredients in food. Tim has done marvelously well on his current diet of approximately 75% commercial raw and 25% canned. Even Abby is eating more raw.

I want to keep Tim on rabbit as one of his primary proteins, as he has done so well on that. But he does not care for any of the frozen commercial varieties and I have to mix it with a bit of canned rabbit to get him to eat. But he loves smallbatch rabbit, which is meat, bones, and organs, and nothing else. I've been adding supplements gradually to get it completely balanced, and he is still eating it with major enthusiasm. Our next batch will be fully-supplemented, and I hope to transition him off (or reduce) the amount of commercial raw rabbit he eats. We are using the recipe from catinfo.org, of which our vet approves. Additionally, I am looking into other rabbit sources to get the cost of cat food down.

In other news, Abby and Tim had their annual exams last week and their vet said they are perfect. After reviewing their lab results, she said they are "healthy on the inside, beautiful on the outside." So changing Tim's diet has definitely resolved most of his problems, though I think we will have to carefully manage his diet forever. That's okay; it's better than having a drugged cat with frequent vet visits. We spoke with her about Tim's tail-chasing episodes, and she agreed that we might try adding a bit more vitamin B complex to his raw mix, and to give him lots of stimulation and play time. She said he is a very intelligent cat, and the intelligent ones sometimes act out like that when bored. This is such a huge change for us, as previously Tim lived under the bed. It's fantastic having such an energetic and playful boy; we are enjoying this side of him. :)

I am excited to take the step to making Tim's food. The control over ingredients will be nice, as that really impacts how he feels. And maybe I can get him to eat 100% raw if he loves his raw rabbit. Finally, I am hoping to reduce our costs a bit. I am not seeing this as a big time sink, as I spend time portioning Rad Cat and smallbatch now. The only change would be mixing in the slurry of supplements.

This is a big change for me, as two years ago we were kibble-feeders with a daily "snack" of canned food. After Tim had two serious constipation episodes, we transitioned to canned, which caused more problems. I was resistant to raw at first, but many of you on this forum educated me. Additionally, our new vet felt Tim would be a perfect candidate for raw, based on his issues, but we had to wean him off cisapride first. So it's been a journey and I've learned a lot along the way - thank you all.
 
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Congratulations on the improvement in Tims' health. He is so fortunate to have you in his corner.Let us know how it goes making the food. I use HT and Alnutrin so while technically I mix it up I don't grind etc. I think going raw no matter how people do it is so beneficial to our cats. Once you go raw you'll never go back as they say.
 

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I am glad to hear he is doing well. My cat Cookie, can not handle kibble, and most canned foods, he eats his raw chicken food made from Dr. Piersons recipe too. Makes such a change in the kitties whole life, it seems.
 

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congrats @AbbyNTim! my cats are on about 75% home made and 25% commercial raw.  i partially cook their food.  i've only been feeding chicken but am hoping to branch out into lamb.  are you getting the rabbit locally or ordering from hare today?  a lot of people on this board recommend it; if i had the freezer space, i'd order from them but i'm in a smallish apartment and don't have the space :(
 
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So true, @Maureen Bradley! Now that I am over the "ick" factor of feeding raw and I've got a system down for mixing and portioning, I can't imagine ever going back to kibble or even canned with lots of yucky stuff. Any future pets will be raw fed, perhaps with some "cleaner" canned if they don't have the sensitive stomach that Tim has.

@nansiludie, Tim seems okay with a small amount of kibble once in a while as a treat, but too much dehydrates him (and gives him big poops). He seems to have a harder time with canned, unless it is exceptionally lean and free of most binders and thickeners. I am so grateful for this forum, as it helped me feel comfortable trying raw.

@stephgas, I am in a similar situation right now with space. Our entire refrigerator/freezer is only 19cf, which is more than enough space for two people, but raw cat food takes up half the freezer and thawing cat food takes up one entire small shelf in the refrigerator. We are going to buy a chest freezer for the garage soon, and then I can purchase in bulk. Right now, I am buying 2-pound chubs of smallbatch ground rabbit with muscle and organ meat and bones. I can get that locally. I will be looking at Hare Today, but I live in So Cal, where it is always hot, and I suspect the shipping and extra cold packing will increase the price. I also plan to check with a few West Coast suppliers. But must get more freezer space first!
 

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have you noticed any changes in your cat yet? I took 3 weeks before I noticed that the fur was softer. But it only took a few days to realize the change in the litter box. I agree with you- when you get used to it and get a routine, and see the changes in the cat- you don´t want to go back to feeding kibble or cooked canned food. 
 
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have you noticed any changes in your cat yet? I took 3 weeks before I noticed that the fur was softer. But it only took a few days to realize the change in the litter box. I agree with you- when you get used to it and get a routine, and see the changes in the cat- you don´t want to go back to feeding kibble or cooked canned food. 
I have noticed lots of changes. The biggest change is that Tim's health issues are resolved. He no longer coughs. He does not have hairballs. He does not vomit or have diarrhea like he used to. His fur has gotten even more soft. He does not smell, does not have bad breath. He no longer has fleas. He is energetic and playful. And the changes in the box are amazing.

Abby eats only partial raw and I have seen the same physical changes with her; she did not have the health issues Tim did.
 

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Raw fed cats smells differently than when fed kibble! My cat smells good! (part of it might be that the box smells nothing, and thus no smell to "stay with the cat" afterwards either). And as you´ve noticed- no bad breath anymore. Win-win for owner and cat!
 
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Those of you who know Tim's story are familiar with his issues - extremely sensitive stomach, intolerance to certain ingredients in food. Tim has done marvelously well on his current diet of approximately 75% commercial raw and 25% canned. Even Abby is eating more raw.
 
This is a big change for me, as two years ago we were kibble-feeders with a daily "snack" of canned food. After Tim had two serious constipation episodes, we transitioned to canned, which caused more problems. I was resistant to raw at first, but many of you on this forum educated me. Additionally, our new vet felt Tim would be a perfect candidate for raw, based on his issues, but we had to wean him off cisapride first. So it's been a journey and I've learned a lot along the way - thank you all.
Wow, you really must be very excited about your efforts and the results, congratulations! Both Tim and Abby have come a long way and they are indeed fortunate to have you!

Both your Abby & Tim sound a bit like my Mikey & Molly, Mikey has some health issues, Molly healthier (and far pickier with the raw food). 

I hope to get my costs down as well. Commercial raw has been wonderful and I am saving some money compared to the 100% canned I was feeding prior but still, costs are high. I was not familiar with SmallBatch and just did a search on them - it's interesting to learn about these different raw meat sites.

That is wonderful news as well re: the visit to the vets. It sounds like you have a very supportive vet who is also open-minded re: raw feeding. Our vet was not open at all, although he is a wonderful vet but on nutrition just espouses the usual (e..g., when Mikey was underweight, he said to feed him more "dry food"; when diagnosed with a chicken allergy, his recommendation was, but of course, what else? Hills d/d or hydrolized diet).  I ended up with another vet, much more open-minded re: nutrition, to the point of the office even selling bags of freeze dried Primal!

Our cats are about maybe 3/4 of the way there as far as improvements in diet, 75% commercial raw, mostly freeze dried and a little thawed raw, and 25% NV canned. Mikey is FHV but his symptoms have improved quite a bit of commercial raw, as has his IBD. Our last remaining challenge is what appears to possibly be eosinophilic granuloma, everything else has been ruled out, except we have not had allergy testing done yet. Mikey is an Aby mix and does have a bit of OCD / obsessive licking and has to wear a little bib around his neck to protect a bald spot from his rough little tongue as well as a lesion that scabs and he continues to pick at.  It's a viscous cycle ....

Anyway, very glad to hear of your success with the kitties!!
 

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:wow: :woohoo: I LOVE reading about how wonderfully Tim is doing now! :clap: :clap: :clap: I remember the beginning of this journey. Just WOW! Awesome, awesome job. No wonder your vet approves!!! :D

Yes - we had to get a chest freezer for the cats to make feeding raw affordable. It enabled shipping and stocking up on stuff when on sale.

Out west, you may want to purchase rabbit, if you have to have it shipped, from http://www.rabbits4u.com I don't remember where they're located, and it doesn't state it on the site, but it's like Utah or something. It's west of the Mississippi, anyway.

Have you been to any ethnic markets in your area? Southern CA covers a lot of territory, but if you're near any cities, it's worth looking into. Rabbit isn't a big U.S. staple, but it is very popular in other cultures. :)
 
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