cat tick and flea collar dangerous

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it sounds to me like your mother doesn't really want a cat, but hates to see an animal abused. And, frankly, in my opinion your neighbors have given up any moral right to consider this their cat by leaving her outside in all weather and not getting veterinary care for her when she is obviously in need of it. The problem is with the phrase "moral right." That's not the same as a legal right. If this were a feral cat you would have every right to say that she is now yours, get her the care she needs, all the rest of it. But your neighbors are insisting that she's their cat, while taking none of the responsibility for caring for her.

Your mum is in a very tough spot. She doesn't like seeing an animal mistreated, and she especially doesn't like the way it's hurting you. But she also doesn't want a feud with the neighbors.

There are only two good solutions, and both of them, unfortunately, depend on your neighbors. One would be for your neighbors to actually live up to their responsibility to take care of their cat, and the other would be for them to give the cat to you. Obviously, your neighbors aren't going to do either of those things of their own accord. And at this point, I'm stumped for an answer. The kind of neglect your neighbors display would certainly be counted as criminal in the U.S., but I don't know about the U.K.. And if this is criminal neglect in the U.K., then what? Do you call the RSPCA and ask for assistance in holding your neighbors accountable? They're likely to still be your neighbors long after the cat has died of old age -- is it worth making them your enemie as well?

These are difficult questions. I know how I would answer them, but I can't condemn someone else for coming up with different answers than I would give.

My guess is that your mum is trying to come up with a diplomatic way to hold your neighbors accountable, and she may succeed. If she does, everybody wins, including you and the cat. I don't know your mum, so I have no way of judging her abilities at this. I can't come up with anything that I think might work, but diplomacy is hardly my strong suit. I seriously hope your mother is better at it than I am.

I'm glad you're getting tutoring. It should make it a lot easier to get your grades up. Please remember that putting in the effort to actually understand what you're being taught is more important than just about anything else in education. Any time there's something you don't understand, ask your tutor.

Margret
 
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Hi margret firstly im abit scared becuase im feeling
abit ichty but no sign of red dots
should I apply the drop on her after every
27 days it says
but will anything bad happenn to her after apply the drops
I dont think we have RSPCA in luton and I dont wish
to call RSPCA against them , my mum or dad could
just talk to them

Margret I am really worried I might get
or have fleas , their such hard work
to get rid of omg I cant believe they
actually can go on us I thought their only
blood sucking discusting creatures on animals


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I hate to be a spoilsport, but there are some spot-ons that are quite toxic to cats :/. You would think a company wouldn't sell such things but as long as it doesn't harm enough cats to hurt sales I don't think they care. Of course I know all the dangerous brands in the US but I'm not familiar with UK brands. What does it say the active ingredient is?
 
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Hi willowy The ingredients is
actually their is no ingredients but
on the back , right at the top its says
(contains ethyl butylacetylaminopropionate 4.9%w/w and margosa extract 5.0% w/w)

One of the part says WASH HANDS AND EXPOSED SKIN before meals and after usen

So its dangerous


Thnxz willowy
 
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I was feeling itchy the whole night and even in the morning
but then it went and then when the cat came in she didnt
rub on me she was a bit close and I start feeling ichty again
even though she didnt touch me , is this weird or what?
 

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All flea products will tell you to wash your hands after applying it. They're also all dangerous to some extent because, well, they're dangerous to fleas, right? The common name for margosa extract is neem oil, and from what I can get from Google, it's reasonably safe for cats if used properly. I would go ahead and use it.

The stuff you really want to avoid is pyrethrin, that's in a lot of flea products in the US. Might be less common in the UK.
 

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The feeling itchy when there are flea concerns is common whether you (as opposed to the cat) have bites or not. An easy example is this:- I used to be a classroom assistant in a primary school. Whenever there was a headline scare going round all the staff would start scratching! It's as though just thinking/talking about the subject makes your skin crawl :lol:

All spot on treatments say wash hands after use,so don't be scared by that. I've never come across the one you have, but that doesn't mean it isn't safe. If you're really worried you could contact a local vet to see what they say. A much easier option would be to talk to someone at your local pet shop and find out if they've used it themselves or know any more about it. I've mostly used frontline or advantage spot on treatments myself but they are more expensive I think.

I know Margret Margret mentioned the RSPCA as a possibility. Sadly, I've had experience with attempting to report neglect cases to them. The response has always been along the lines of 'if you're looking out for/feeding/caring for the animal then it isn't a neglect case'- even if the owners are neglectful themselves! They're incredibly overstretched, so they don't step in until things are really severe. (Having said that, they came out three times to see a horse belonging to a friend of mine. The horse had wonderful care with her but had come to her from a neglectful environment...it seems like there's no logic to what the RSPCA do :confuse3: ) It really does seem like your best bet is for your mum to come to some sort of arrangement with your neighbour's. I hope for your sake and the cat's sake that something can be resolved soon. Best of luck with it all. You're doing the cat a great service :) :vibes:
 
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Thank you willowy and columbine
willowy -so I can use the drop on her are you
sure? will anything bad happen afterwards?

Columbine-so when shes opposite to me I
start feeling itchy I dont understand this shes
an outdoor cat. does she even have fleas or not
she has no little black insects dropping from her
Or when I touch her or when she rubs on me theirs
nothing their also about the RSCPA I dont wish to call
them becuase I dont want any hate between us we could
just nicely ask them for the cat and when one day if the
wish to see her how she is inside my house when the cat
will be myn then they will realise they treated her the wrong
way they should have feed her , give her shelter , and importantly
give her some love ...
This is her


T wish to start giving her the drops
soon so what should I do


Thank you wilowy and columbine
 
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Wow I didnt know the RSPCA are like that!
 

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She's beautiful :)

It will be harder to look for fleas on her because of her coat colour. I would always treat any cat that went outside for fleas...the odds are she does have some. When I had indoor/outdoor cats they got treated regularly for fleas - any cat that goes outside will pick up on or two. The point of regular treatment is to prevent a full blown infestation (not fun. Once they get into the house thet can spread rapidly and take a lot of time and effort to eliminate). I know your mum is coming round to your way of thinking with this cat, but a house infestation could quickly put her off. It drove us mad when it happened and we all loved the cats responsible!

I've looked up the ingredients in your flea treatment. As far as I can tell they're safe. There used to be a toxic ingredient in the type of product you've got (safe for dogs but toxic to cats). It looks as though it's use is now banned in the uk for any product that says cat on it. It certainly isn't in the product you've described. That's the good news. The bad news is that it seems to be a flea repellant only. That means that it should stop or discourage fleas from taking up residence on the cat, but it won't kill any fleas she already has. The treatments that kill fleas are prescription only, though if you go to a local vet and explain the situation they may well sell you some. The prescription treatments can also be got online from places likehttp://www.viovet.co.uk. The two options that spring to mind are Frontline and Advantage, though there are others. The active ingredient to look for is fipronil.

The best hope for the cat seems to be for you and your mum to gently work on persuading your neighbours to let you have the cat. Offering money for her may be worth a try, but I don't know if that's a possibility for you. Good luck :vibes:
 
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thnxz columbine i know right shes soooooo cute
the whole day she stayed with me she sleept 2 times
once under my bef and the second time next to the
bathroom , so should I use the drop
or not or buy the frontline and advantage ?
 

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If it was me I'd get frontline or advantage. That way you'll know the fleas are being killed. It's important that you only use one type of drops per treatment (so don't use the ones you've got as well as frontline/advantage. It has to be one or the other.

It's also a good idea to make sure to thoroughly (and frequently) vacuum everywhere and wash any bedding she's been on at a high temperature. That way you'll kill any fleas (and their eggs) that may have got into the house. Once you've given her the drops it's helpful to let her be in the house a bit, as ever flea that gets onto her will die. I'm not saying you have a problem - I don't know if you do or not- but these are good, free precautionary measures you can take. Anyway, I'm sure your mum won't complain if you start vacuuming the house for her ;)

This article should help explain things. Just bear in mind the brand name products mentioned are American ones. The brands I mentioned are the uk versions. http://www.thecatsite.com/a/cat-fleas
 
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Thanxz Columbine
to be honest I don t
even know if she has fleas
yes shes an outdoor cat
but she was on top of my
bed particularly one my 2
blankets and I even slept on them
and I dont feel ichty nothing is
on me no red dots but should I still
go on a use it thanxz
 

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I would definitely use something. My first choice would be the fipronil treatment (frontline etc). The one you have is better than nothing though. Even if she doesn't have fleas, being outside means she's constantly exposed to them (rats, mice, foxes etc). As I said before, I used to regularly treat my cats that were indoor/outdoor, even if there was no sign of a problem. Regular treatment is the best way to prevent an infestation - preferably with a prescription strength product that kills fleas on contact. Believe me, you don't want to wait until there's an infestation before you act - its a lot of hard work to get rid of an infestation once it's happened.

Fleas likely won't be too bad at the moment because of all the cold snaps we've had. As the weather warms up fleas will breed faster and you can have a problem before you know it. As an example, about three and a half weeks ago I took in a semi feral/stray from a farm. She had a few fleas but not an infestation, despite living in close quarters with rats and mice. This was because the weather hadn't warmed up when I took her in. One of the first things I did was treat her with frontline drops...If I hadn't, I would definitely have an infestation by now.
 
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Okay then so Im just going to
use the drop s I have but can she still be able
to go around furniture sleep on or under my bed
or on the carpets what does the
drops do kill all the fleas but do they
fall off of her when she walks or scratches
herself thnx columbine


Hey margret haven't heard from you in a while
 

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Which drops are you using? The ones you posted about before are a repellent. They'll just make her an unattractive target for the fleas, so they'll go elsewhere. The prescription strength drops like frontline or advantage will kill the fleas on contact and they'll just drop off (hence the need for thorough vacuuming! Also, fleas lay their eggs off the host - on carpets etc. The vacuuming will remove and kill any eggs before they hatch. I'm not saying that you already have a problem, just explaining the life cycle a bit).

As long as there's plenty of vacuuming and washing of bedding etc, I can't see any reason not to have her in the house. If you've got the frontline/advantage drops it's actually better to let her move freely around the house - that way, any fleas that are about will jump onto her and get killed. Hope that answers your questions :)
 
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Okay so I will find advantages or frontline
for her thank you columbine
 
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Where do u find them
 

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You can go to your nearest vet and see if they'll sell you some. If not, get it online. Amazon sell it I think. I've used a site called viovet.co.uk before. They're generally very quick about sending things out too. :)
 
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Hey,
the cat right now sleeping under my bed
I noticed since yesterday she has a collar to me it looks like
a flea and tick collars those are incrediabee dangerous
should I bin it or leave it the owners
put it on her I wanna tell em but dont wanna go to their house
what shall I do ... quickly it been 2 days since the collars on
her this is the secound day
 
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