Pregnant Cat with many problems :(

Hello guys i need help .. i have a 19 month old white persian cat and i love her too bits .. she is pregnant for the first time and i have tons of questions because its not normal pregnancy ..
i brought the male cat to my place and kept him for 6 days and now its been 51 days since the male cat has gone ..
first month of pregnancy went awsome .. she had pink teets after almost three weeks and her apetite was huge .. but around 40 days she started bleeding from her vulva .. first it was pale pinkish mucous type dicharge and then pinkish and slowly it increased and turned to red .. her apetite was good and thanks God no fever .. i took her to vet and he gave me an antibiotic syrup .. i forgot to mention the male cat gave my cat some ear problm because her ears started getting too waxy .. i kept cleaning it but she developed some kind of infection .. so the vet gave med for both problems ..
I kept giving her meds for 4 days but the bleeding was getting worse .. and ear infection had spread to both ears .. i took her to vet again and he did ultrasound again and said kittens heartbeat is good no problem there .. i waited two more days but bleeding wont stop then i panicked and took her to another vet who is the best around here .. he told me that she has developed ringworm fungul on ears (omg) and gave me solution for that .. and as for the bleeding he did ultrasound and said kittens were fine .. he told me to stop giving antibiotic syrup .. he gave her a shot .. after 2 days bleeding was a tiny bit better buy she disharged skin like tissue with blood .. the dishcarge had almost no smell from start .. yesterday i took her to vet for the secnd shot and he checked her abdomen and felt kittens move .. he said to look out for smelly discharge or stillborn kitten .. now her discharge has decreased alot .. like its more of spotting now but she discharged that skin like tissue again today .. her apetite is good and she is active THANKS GOD but i have no idea whats wrong with her .. why this discharge and skin like tissue ?? And even though 2 vets did her ultrasounds and both confirmed kittens nd her belly is enlarhed but not too big .. but i have never felt the kittens move .. and to me it looks like her belly is not getting bigger or worse in think it has shrunk a tiny bit .. idk i am soo confused .. plz can someone help me out .. why all the discharge and why cant i feel the kittens .. its 51 days + 6 days with male cat.. so she could be 55,56 days pregnant .. plz help me out .. its been 10 days of helpless misery

Sorry for such a long essay but i am soo stressed out

Hi puffy and welcome!

Well!! 

The first thing that hit me was you saying she contracted earmites or infection, ringworm, and now possibly a vaginal infection or issue.

So the prob here is most definitely, you will want to be very aggressive in treating the ringworm!! The LAST thing you want is for those babies to get it too, and they will, since they have zip for immune systems.

So stay on this like mad, you actually don't have time enough to get it completely healed, as it takes a good 4 weeks minimum, but just treat and treat all you can now to get those areas dried up and prevent spreading.

So not nice.

Now the discharge. Your vet is on the money when he says watch for it to smell. This is highly indicating of an infection, or even a dead kitten.

As long as there is no smell, there's not alot that can be done now for this, it's sort of a wait and see thing unfortunately.

Not sure if you will know this, but did the vet happen to see ALL kittens moving?

I hate to say this as I can imagine(and tell) that you are pretty stressed out already, but it is not normal for her to have discharge like this.

However you did say it's gotten better?

Does the vet think she may deliver early by chance?

Thankyou so much .. it means alot
And as for the ringworms on ears thanks God its soo much better now .. almost tiny bit rashes on both ears now .. beacuse i have been treating it like a hound as i didnt have enough time ..
But can u plz tell me whats this skin like discharge she had .. i will post a picture to give you a better idea ..
And secndly shez been bleeding for almost ten days now and it didnt have smell neither she stoped eating again thanks God for that .. i have read every site on internet about bleeding but other then miscarriage it doesnt tell why .. and if God forbid my cat was having miscarriage then shudnt it have smell or develop fever .. i mean its more then enough days to show these symptoms

This is the tissue like thing she discharged yesterday

Nd this is a few days ago .. i am sorry i know its gross

 Welcome to TCS! I cannot offer any advice except that I imagine that the vets would be interested in examining the sample. It looks like some sort of placenta, to me, so maybe there were unformed fetuses so she is shedding the placenta. Sending prayers and vibes for a healthy, full term pregnancy and easy birthing for your mama kitty and calming and comfort for you!  I hope that you get some good answers very soon! Please keep us updated...

Thakyou Catsknowme .. i need all the prayers i can get .. i havent slep well in days and i think i have dried my tear ducts lol .. i dont know what i am supposed to do now .. puffy(my cat) is eating fine and she is active .. the bleeding have reduced to spotting now .. but the thing is the discharge now is very mucuousy nd more of reddish pink and pale color .. now i just wiped her butt again and it was yellowish mucuous .. is it a good sign ?
Amd i tried to feel the kittens now for like 10 min but i didnt feel any movement .. why cant i feel the movement when everyone else can? Two vets did her ultrasounds and both confirmed pregnancy .. one even said that kittens rib cages are formed very nicely .. three days ago when i took her to vet he felt the kitten moevement .. but why cant i ? Like every time i put my hand on her tummy, i pray that i feel some tiny kick just so my spirits could rise again .. i need that little bit of silver linning because i want to know that all of my sleepless nights, prayers and tears have atleast saved the kittens ..
I was thinking today that maybe vets are wrong .. what if she never was pregnant ? It was phantom pregnancy thats why all the bleeding .. so maybe thats why i cant feel the kittens

And about the tissue like thing .. i did some research .. sometimes female humans dicharge this tissue like thing with their mensturation period .. its unshed linning of uterus and it looks exactly like this but cats absorb their uterus linning if they dont get pregnant .. they never shed it .. then why is my cat doing it even though she is pregnant ..
i googled cats placents picture .. its not like this .. its soo messy .. but this skin like thing was ummm wat should i say soo clean .. it was stretchy nd one side was plain amd one has stretchy texture .. but it didnt look like placenta .. besides if it was placenta shouldnt the aborted fetuses come out now ? I check all of my room and her litter pan after every while incase she aborted any kitten .. but theres none .. so what is thiss
Urrrrgggghhhh i wish i could get all the answers.. and i am praying she is pregnant nd deliver healthy babies full terms :'(

I wirte such long essays .. sorry everyone :/

puffy001 said:

I wirte such long essays .. sorry everyone :/

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No problem. Writing out your thoughs and observations help also yourself to analyse and your own insight to mature.

But what you could do for us, is to spell out what you write.  You use much such sms shortenings.  THIS makes it  more difficult and bothersome for us oldies, who usually DONT sms long messages to our pals,  to read and understand what you are saying.

Forgive me for saying this, but so it is.   You are of course not the only one who do so, but its one of our difficulties, us who try to help out.

Ohh sorry .. i will keep that in mind next time ..actually i am writing it from my cell phone soits difficult to write such long essays and then correct the spellings

StefanZ should i rewrite everything i wrote earlier ?? because i cant find edit option

I found the edit option and i edited all of my posts .. i hope you understand my dilemma now and somhow give me some answers .. plz

I got one idea.  What if she got this fungal infection inside her vulva too?   This could explain these discharges, which arent the most common, and discharge of these red skin bites, which are uncommon with cats.  And it is consistent with her known fungal infection in the ears.

If so, Im not sure at the moment what to do about it.  Easiest is if you phone and ask this second vet who is supposed to be very good.  Being his paying patient, you are allowed to phone and ask about the same disease she was to him.

Perhaps the preparate you use for the ears, works in the whole body inclusive vulva?  If so, the problem should resolve itself.

About you dont feel the kittens move, I dont know.  As you know, the usual is to be able to feel them at this moment, about 14 days before the expecteed delivery.  Its perhaps even 10 days, as you say.  But if the vets saw them move on ultrasound, lets hope for the best...

Good luck!   @puffy001  

StefanZ i dont think it some fungul infection because its a skin infection .. then how should it travel to uterus .. as for vulva, visibly its fine .. no swelling or anything .. so theres not even hair shedding there .. its somthing else
And i soo long to feel the kittens move .. eveyone experiences this awsome moment ..i want it too ..
I will call the vet tommorow as i have few questions .. i will ask you guys too hoping someone will answer it here
1- can i give my cat a bath .. because she is long haired and the fur has turned greasy because of anti fungul solution
2- discharge from her vulva has almost stopped .. it has turned to light spotting now but now its of yellowish color .. is ot okay ?
3- why cant i feel the kittens .. what is proper way of feeling the kittens ..

Ask these question to the vet!

And also, please, about my theory.  If you anyways phone and are asking.

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@StefanZ i dont think it some fungul infection because its a skin infection .. then how should it travel to uterus .. as for vulva, visibly its fine .. no swelling or anything .. so theres not even hair shedding there .. its somthing else

And i soo long to feel the kittens move .. eveyone experiences this awsome moment ..i want it too ..
I will call the vet tommorow as i have few questions .. i will ask you guys too hoping someone will answer it here
1- can i give my cat a bath .. because she is long haired and the fur has turned greasy because of anti fungul solution
2- discharge from her vulva has almost stopped .. it has turned to light spotting now but now its of yellowish color .. is ot okay ?
3- why cant i feel the kittens .. what is proper way of feeling the kittens ..

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I suspect this grease is exactly the active substance which is long term working.  And thus, you cant bathe her, if you dont want to interrupt the cure...

but ask the vet when you phone tomorrow.

Okay i will but i was suggesting a bath because she has become dirty and i dont want (possible) newborn kittens to have a greasy dirty mom ..
And can u please tell me how to feel for kittens .. oh and i forgot to add that puffy has buldgy tummy between her ribs .. i have read that in last weeks as tummy grows the hips become less prominent .. but the thing is my cats hips are still slim and prominent .. when watching from top, the buldge is in ribs area .. more towards neck side rather then hips side .. is this the reason i cant feel the kittens ? Because they are between ribs

Hi Puffy,

First off I have to say, I completely understand how stressful and worrisome all of this has been for you!  

But next I want to remind you of something.

Have you ever in your life seen that worry and stress will change what's to come? Never. All you are doing is making yourself wear down, lose sleep, etc.

Top it off with the fact that your girl feels this from you, and won't do her any good either. Who knows, it may even cause her to deliver early, and you surely don't want that on top of all this!

Keep a level head, the key here is observance, as you have been doing, but take things as they come, whatever is up with this basically is what it is, and we will help get you through it regardless.

I wouldn't worry about not feeling movement, honestly I don't feel much until maybe the last week or so, sometimes sooner, sometimes not until very near the end, it doesn't mean they are not doing just fine.

That ringworm little rash is still very contagious, so continue on as much as possible to get this dried up and gone before they come. A mom will easily spread it to her kids, but you won't see it for a good month or more later, which means a delay in adoptions for them since it takes at least a month to be rid of, ESPECIALLY in kittens. One spot on mom can mean all over ringworm in kittens.

What makes it contagious is not only her spots, but the fur loss at those spots, ringworm attaches to the hair piece, dries it up to brittle and it falls out into the home, bedding, etc.

These little spores live on and on in the home, waiting for a victim. Unless of course they are vacuumed up or bleach killed/deactivated.

So it's very important before these little ones are out and about in the home, that you regularly vacuum every inch of your home, anywhere the mom has been, vacuum.

The tissue discharge is not gross to me at all. While I can't tell you exactly why, I do know it happens sometimes, and for different reasons.

Just examples only, but it may be caused from uterine tumors, pieces of placenta from a baby who may come out stillborn if there was an incomplete fetal sac, it may be a fetus who started to develop but for some reason was reabsorbed, we don't know at this time why, but regardless there is no changing it now.

Basically it's a wait and see what we see when she delivers.

Her life and health come first before the babies, from now until she delivers try to stay calmer and keep her calm, let's get her through to delivery without premature kids, you might never know the reason of this too, once she delivers, she will have a new discharge for maybe a couple weeks, darker, greenish, which is normal.

Regarding bathing her, personally I would not. It's not only stressful for her but just feels rather risky. Instead you can get some wipes and use those. Or a warm damp washcloth even.

Watch for changes now, in her behavior and appetite, elimination, signs of distress, etc. 

If something changes and suddenly she is NOT okay, take care of her life first, as I'm sure you will. 

We're all here for you!!