Male cat too scared to mount female cat in heat

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Hello, fellow members of TCS! Nice to meet you.

I have a bit of trouble with my cats and I wasn't able to find any relevant way of solving this problem so far so I thought I'd try here too.

First of all, I have a white persian female cat, who had some difficulties while growing up which left her pretty much traumatized... now she's very scared of both people and other animals... anddd everything in general for that matter. I've had her for a while now, around... 4-5 months I think. We're getting along very well, and she's gotten over some of her fears (right when I went to visit her the first time she'd hide wherever she could. her previous owner told me she hid whenever there were strangers around, and that, all in all, she's not a very affectionate cat; now she's really ok when someone comes to visit. she does hide, but not somewhere we can't reach or see her.  she usually stays next to the bed where she can see us).

The problem is, she's in heat and I'd like her to make some kittens (we already have a few people that want her babies too, so that's not a problem. we'll take care of at least one of them, too), reason why I brought over a russian blue male cat... well... he's really shy and passive... don't know how else to describe him. He's not doing anything other than meow back to her and that's about it. It's true that she's pretty agressive... she hisses and growls and all that, she even chased him a bit a few days ago(she wasn't in heat back then), but the thing is, they never fought.

However, now's she doesn't mind anything happening to her but he's still to scared to make any move.

He did once sort of climb on her (yesterday, when her heat cycle started; she wasn't as tolerant yesterday, so she made a fuss about it (she hissed and jumped back out of fear).

They know each other for about a month now, but I'm wondering if there is anything I can do to make him take the initiative... I feel like he is half ignoring her or is just way too afraid to be able to do anything... that's why, is there anything we can do to make him not afraid and be willing to do his job?

Thank you for taking the time to read this. I hope someone can share his/her experience with us. :)
 

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why you want her have kittens? there ton of cats and kittens that don't have homes and being kill at shelters everyday
 

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(we already have a few people that want her babies too, so that's not a problem. we'll take care of at least one of them, too),
While it may not be a problem to you, you are denying that second chance to those already in kill shelters all around the nation. Each home you find means one less home for homeless animals in shelters.

TCS is a pro-spay-and-neuter site. From the forum rules:
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We have a board for ethical breeding located here: http://www.thecatsite.com/f/7/showing-and-ethical-breeding, although you will need to have a minimum of 20 posts and 30 days of registration before you can post there.
 
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You may also want to consider her traumatic background, and whether this should preclude motherhood.  The reason I mention it, is her health and mental/emotional state has gone through stress.  Kittens will be more stress on her body.  Cats who suffer stress are more prone to deadly FIP (no cure - they don't know much about it, but they know stress is a trigger for mutation of the corona virus into FIP, and a heck load of cats have corona virus).  Sadly, one kitten I was going to take from a mother cat who had undergone a stressful period before motherhood was affected in this way; the kitten in question survived, but I couldnt take her as I already have a cat (she found a good cat-free home though, with her remaining brother), but there were deaths in that litter.  It is unusual for kittens to die so young from FIP - it is at usually 6-9months - so you could have a ticking time bomb.  The mother cat in this situation also later died from FIP (autopsy was performed in every case, as this is the only way of definitively telling).

The other concerning thing re motherhood with this particular cat may be her view of humans (she is scared).  This can be passed on to her kittens.  It is one more thing ethical breeders consider before breeding.

I'm sorry not to be answering your specific questions re getting the deed done, but I think these things need to be thought about before the mechanics, all for the love of your cat of course :)
 
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Thank you tammyp for sharing that great info with me! I knew nothing about that nor has the vet (or anyone for that matter) mentioned anything like that so far. I'll give it a second thought in that case. 

And, @FhiCat, I wasn't sure where to post this thread, and thinking it's more of a problem with her behaviour rather than the breeding itself, I posted it here. But thank you too for your observation. I'll keep that in mind. :)
 

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Isn't natural selection important to respect to a degree? Maybe she needs the right to choose who she wants? Before TNR ing the ferals in my area I use to enjoy watching which Tomcats were selected by which females to reproduce. Nature provides an intelligence in these matters beyond our understanding sometimes. As far as her temperament and mothering, it could also bring out her best. You never know. But getting her feeling secure in her environment would be my main agenda...babies or not.
 

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A lot of male cats seem to be afraid of the 'nasty' temprament of a female who is not ready, and with good reason! She most likely has to be further into her heat cycle to accept him, you may have to get hold of a breeder and ask when that is. The males around here are very afraid too, but somehow the unspayed females always seem to get pregnant! Good luck and keep us posted!
 
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