Oh No! Funny Face was Attacked!

Oh - and to "prove" it is easy. I'm going to call the first vet tomorrow and ask for Funny Face's records. We may have someone adopting him, and that's the truth. Then - if it shows a neuter (which it should!!!!), it's simply a matter of the new vet indicating this cat wasn't neutered. But he was ear-notched, which is how we show it's the same cat. There were no other grey and white males.

If you only just could check all the others behind to see if they were done would be great . But since they are feral it make things worse . But would there be a way to look after traping them again ? If they are not fixed maybe you just want to bring them back to the same vet who was suposed to fix them and let them neuter this time for sure . But now you would not have to pay . But I don't know if you like to go this roude or not .

OMG.I would be soooo ticked off.I'm glad he is neutered now though and is doing good.
I hope you are able to somehow get your money back on the first "neuter".
Crossing fingers hoping that all the other cats are really neutered.

WHAT??? He wasn't neutered??? I'd be EXTREMELY angry. Actually I'm angry now to hear of it....*breathing*....

Is there a Vet Board that oversees vet practices over there in USA? I know there's one in Australia. I know one lady complained to the Australian Vet Board, (I don't know the name), because her future male stud who went in for a minor operation was neutered at the same time. She wasn't impressed.

If you have one, I'd slowly build up a case first, not just Funny Face, but with all the ferals you've ever taken to him. You never know, some of them may actually have had the prcedures done!

But it's good to hear that Funny Face is doing well. I hope he copes with a real neuter job!

Well, I called the old vet today and asked for the records for Funny Face, Attila, and Shadow. Thought I'd just start there. They couldn't find them!!!!! They have no records for those cats!!!!!!!!!! I asked Tracy if they had records for any of the other ferals we'd brought in - and after poking around for a few minutes, she said she couldn't find anything. "How strange!" she says (!). She does remember our bringing in "all those cats in traps." No #@%*! We honestly don't know what to do - and will probably just retrap everyone, and if they haven't been neutered, we'll take them to the new vet. We spoke to the owner of New Vet, and he says that unless we had pics of the cats and copies of the paperwork they should have given us at the time, there's really nothing to do. Of course, I have a million pics of the indoor cats - but we never remember to take pics of the cats in traps. Forgot the camera yesterday to take a pic of Funny Face! Anyway, he says it would have to go before the NJ Vet Association, and that without that documentation, they'll never believe us over the vet. So I guess we have no choice but to just move along. This is really mind-blowing though.

Guess I've got new advice to add to my repertoire of advice.

When you trap a cat, take a pic. When you have them neutered or spayed and vaccinated, even though you're returning them to where you trapped them, take the paperwork with you and do not count on the vet to have it for you.

I guess one would expect to do this - it sounds almost obvious. But who knew this vet was pulling one over on us? They were all so nice and seemed so dedicated......

OMG that make me really . I think I better not say something right now , I am just to

That stinks! >_<

I'm going to keep my mouth shut to prevent some rather nasty words to spill over.

Though would Tracy be willing to say anything if approached? Or even try a different tact. Ask for a document saying that This cat has been blah blah and I gave treatment blah blah signed by the vet since the prospective adopter wants to see some sort of paper work before going ahead.

I thought it was standard to get certification of sterilisation.

Hmmmm , did you pay for the neuter/spay for all the ferals ??? If yes , you should have a statement from the vet what you payed for . If you have kept it of course . I do keep all mine now , so I can see what was done and for who or it was done for . I guess my own personal records for my babies .

You know, I'm embarassed to admit this, but.... we have all the paperwork for our inside cats, and we gave the paperwork to the adoptive parents of all the kitties we've adopted out... but the way we handled the ferals was different. First of all, please bear in mind we were new to this, and didn't have the first ferals brought in ear-notched. We've certainly learned along the way, but what we did was just start a "fund" at the vet. They basically held a credit on our account, and we'd simply drop off the traps, and one of the vet techs would come out and take the cat in the trap. Either one of the receptionists would call us the next day or we'd call them to find out how the cat was doing. They would keep females for a few days to a week (dependent upon weather) and used dissolvable stitches on them. The males would stay a day or two, dependent upon their health. The vet had standing instructions to first test for FIV, FeLV. Thankfully, none were positive. Then instructions were to spay or neuter, vaccinate, deworm, and provide any other medical attention necessary. (Actually, all of the cats were supposedly in good health, and none that we trapped looked sick). We did not take the paperwork with us when we picked up the cats to return them outdoors - our thinking was that if we ever needed it, they'd print it out and fax it to us. And if the fund was depleted, they'd call to let us know, and we'd have them put more on the card. (We helped pay for spay/neuters of other ferals, not just the ones we brought in, and they did contact us with ferals and strays others dropped off, and we'd help find homes or places for those cats and kittens).

Remember - we live in an RV, and we work from home a lot, so space is a major issue for us. I'm not making an excuse here, because obviously now I feel like we were completely irresponsible, but just explaining our logic at the time. They weren't charging us for the boarding, etc., and we thought they were being so great with us.

But after a few problems here and there, we began to doubt their "thoroughness." And then the incident with Flowerbelle...and we were seeing red. But even then it never occured to us to check up on the prior work with the ferals.

Anway, we've kept tabs on the ferals we relocated to the barns, and they are on a feeding schedule (twice a day). So trapping the barn cats shouldn't be too difficult. And there's only the five of them. The rest we had neutered? Unless they start turning up around here as the weather gets progressively worse, there's nothing to do.

So until we know what's up with at least the barn cats, we'll decide what to do based on that. We can only hope that this wasn't some complete scam on the part of the vet, and that somehow something just screwed up with Funny Face.

Oh no , I did not want you to feel bad . I am so sorry thats not how I ment it at all .
I also just started of the beginning of this year to keep all the statements from the vet . I realiced sometimes it is good what medication was given to my cat and how it worked out and so on . I used to through them all away . Now I wish I kept them .
I think that vet soundet very good how he was a great help to the ferals and yes if you really did not need them papers why stock more stuff up in a RV . It is small in there as it is . I would have not done it myself , due to space . Maybe funny face was just a mistake and all the others are all spay/neuter . I have my hopes up for that . Maybe it was not even the vets fould . Don't a vettech usually get the animals in the operating room ? So he may have bin just forgotten somehow to get neuter , things like that can happen and we are all only human .

And again I am sorry that I have absad you

Why do they not have records of what they did to the ferals? They should have to keep them no matter that they are ferals. What about a record of the money you spent with them? Surely they have a record of that since they called you to say it was empty. At least I would report them for not keeping good records. Maybe that would get somebody to look into things. Don't need vets like that around.

I had a similar incident with the last dog I rescued. They didn't know if she really had been spayed and what shots. It was finally decided that she had had everything done but it was a real mess for awhile. Not what I had anticipated.

Hope this all works out for you. You are

Hedi, no worries, you didn't make me feel bad! It's a BIG learning experience for sure, and without trapping the other cats we don't know for sure there's a large problem. We've sure got our fingers crossed!

Anyway, we went to visit Funny Face today. The sad news is that the person who was going to adopt him isn't because they've rescued another cat, and are at seven now, so don't have room to dedicate to socializing him. BUT the good news is that he's staying in boarding at the vet for a while, and one of the vet techs in particular is going to work with him. We dropped off toys, a bed, treats and a condo today. And (I'll just call her VT) VT was already handling him. He's shy and VERY scared - but snuzzles into her and rubs his cheek on hers when she holds him. As Gary says - "I knew he was a snuggle bear!"

He has thick, plush, soft, silky furr, and is so funny looking, he looks just like a Koala Bear when she holds him! I'm confident we, probably with help from the vet, will be able to find him a loving home. He's going to be a lover of a cat!

I am so releaved (sp) to read this . I do hope that funny face will get a furr ever home and he sounds like sweet guy to me . That poor baby .

Well - we trapped two of the barn cats before we both got struck with HORRIBLE cases of the flu AND strep throat!!!! It snowed, then sleeted - gave us a one day break, and is raining now, with colder temperatures back by the end of the week. So everything should be good and icy by the time we're feeling better!

Anway GOOD NEWS is they were both neutered! I'm beginning to think Funny Face was just a victim of their lack of organization. I can still hope, anyway.

More good news - the vet tech who was working with Funny Face to socialize him has decided to take him home. She can't keep him because of the number of cats she already has, so it's not permanent (yet ), but he'll be kept in a separate room and she'll spend lots of time with him. In the meantime, we'll both try to find him a new guardian - but he's inside and being loved!

Well that is great news with Funny Face , lets hope for a permanent home soon for him

Maybe it was just a mistake with that one cat , I am hoping too

Wow...the flu and strep throat at the same time! You poor things.

I'm so glad the other ferals were neutered. Whew, what a relief!

I hope that Funny Face continues to do well in his new home. He's really lucky that he got in that fight and got scratched up. Otherwise y'all wouldn't have found that he wasn't neutered AND he would still be living outside in the cold. The old vet's lack of organization seems to be a stroke of luck for this little guy!

LOL! That everything happens for a reason whether or not we can figure out what that is is solidly a part of my belief system.

Laurie I'm so glad Funny Face is doing alright and I'm so glad the other two boys you trapped were already desexed. Sorry about all your problems and I hope you and Gary are feeling better!