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post #61 of 83
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Originally Posted by Msmamakat1 View Post

Ban declaring! It is tantamount to pulling our nails out. It is life long pain to their feet and life long inability to defend themselves.
Period. In my personal opinion there should be no debate...

It is much much worse than pulling out a human finger nail. Cats' claws grow from the bone. The entire toe digit is amputated. Bone, tendons, ligaments, nerves, sliced through, crushed or burned off. 10 amputations. And the digit that is amputated is the bone the cat walks on. So now the cat is forced to walk on a bone never meant to bear weight, or her wrists altering her entire gait. Crippling her. And she can't even stretch properly to ease the misalignment because the claws she uses to exercise with are gone.
post #62 of 83
Additionally, cats shifting their weight to their wrists causes early onset arthritis.
post #63 of 83
Three states have bills now. The New Jersey bill, introduced by Assemblyman Troy Singleton, passed Assembly with a whopping 43-10, but was removed from the Senate agenda, this time.

New York State bill, introduced by Assemblywoman Linda Rosenthal, is about to enter Assembly for the 3rd year. Paws crossed this is our year.

West Virginia Legislature has House Bill #2418, introduced February 13, 2017

You can follow these bills by visiting The Paw Project. If you are on facebook you can join City The Kitty in his and his owner's tireless fight to end this evil. They have a number of petitions that need signatures. I don't know the rules here for posting petitions and am too lazy to look it up, so please visit City The Kitty Advocate For Animals on FB, like his page and sign and share his petitions.

Assemblywoman Rosenthal also has a new petition for her New York Bill.

So, we've got 8 cities in California already banned it (and shelters show LESS relinquishment since the bans) and 3 states, so far, working to outlaw it.

Thank you to all of you who have posted against this. I hope you will look up the pages I've mentioned and join our cause. Help us end declawing. Be a part of it. You can call your politicians, write letters to the editor, donate The Paw Project Documentary on DVD to your library and your shelter, ask your shelter to support the bills (if you are in states that have bills) and so on. yes, I have done all those things.
It's coming. It's coming!

PS You can also ask your vet if she/he declaws, and if they do, ask them to stop. If they won't, find a vet who doesn't declaw, and change vets. On this, I realize it may not be possible, some areas don't have any vets who don't declaw.
Edited by otto - 3/10/17 at 4:35pm
post #64 of 83

We need more people to actively and persistently lobby congress about declawing (and debarking, which I only discovered was a thing the other week).  Write letters to your senate, congress, and the president himself.  Gather signatures too.  Educate vets!!!  Do this over and over again.  I am going to write to your congress myself, and I am not even a citizen of your country.  

 

My mum writes to her local council members, the police, cat's protection organisation, MP, the House of Lords, and the Secretary of State for Agriculture and the Protection of Animals frequently on the changing of the ingredient in antifreeze that kills cats on a daily basis in the UK.  One day, they will get so fed up of her constant, angry, nagging that they will be forced to bring forth a white paper for MPs discussion, which could at lead to a green paper for discussion, then put to a vote in the House of Parliament, then put forth to the House of Lords for a yeah or nay before being written into law.  It's a long process but someone has to start somewhere...

 

We will not walk in fear, of one of another.
We are not descended from fearful men,
Not from men who feared to write, to speak,
To associate and to defend causes
which were for the moment unpopular.
This is no time... to keep silent.

 

- Edward R. Murrow
 


Edited by Brian007 - 3/11/17 at 5:23am
post #65 of 83
Big news! North Shore Animal League is endorsing the NY declaw bill!

https://www.facebook.com/notes/the-paw-project/north-shore-animal-league-worlds-largest-no-kill-rescue-and-adoption-organizatio/10155162771809602
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According to many veterinarians, including the American Animal Hospital Association, declawing does not guarantee that cats will remain in homes. Indeed, it frequently has the opposite effect. When a cat’s natural scratching instinct is thwarted, frustrated cats engage in such problematic behaviors as biting and litter box aversion, which lead to abandonment or shelter surrender. Sadly, this is a reality we can verify, based on the number of homeless declawed cats who arrive at our facility every year.
post #66 of 83

What does "endorsing" mean in this context?  Please excuse my ignorance, I am from the UK.  :catguy:

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post #68 of 83
@brian77 I think it means they will testify during the hearings on behalf of the bill. They will also actively work to refute the lies the NYMVA and their vets try to spread (such as declawing saves lives, keeps cats in homes and protects people and children)

North Shore Animal League is the largest no kill shelter in the world. Their support is huge for our cause.
post #69 of 83
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Originally Posted by otto View Post

@brian77 I think it means they will testify during the hearings on behalf of the bill. They will also actively work to refute the lies the NYMVA and their vets try to spread (such as declawing saves lives, keeps cats in homes and protects people and children)

North Shore Animal League is the largest no kill shelter in the world. Their support is huge for our cause.


Groovy, that sounds like a really productive step in the right direction.  I'm very pleased  :D

 

(And thanks for the explanation, your system is ever so different and complicated to ours - and our system is ever so difficult and complicated for us!)

post #70 of 83
I hope this bill comes to my state soon, all the veterinarians in my town (it's pretty small, so not a lot of options) are pro-declawing. And it's sickening to walk through the cat room at the local shelter and see how many adult cats have a sign on their cage saying "I'm declawed." I think that every prospective cat owner should watch the Paw Project to learn how awful this procedure is for cats, and that it causes worse behaviors (including biting, inappropriate urination) than simply scratching furniture (which can be stopped by providing scratching posts!) It's terrible to think that we live in a world where people value their sofas more than their pets.
post #71 of 83
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Originally Posted by Abyeb View Post

I hope this bill comes to my state soon, all the veterinarians in my town (it's pretty small, so not a lot of options) are pro-declawing. And it's sickening to walk through the cat room at the local shelter and see how many adult cats have a sign on their cage saying "I'm declawed." I think that every prospective cat owner should watch the Paw Project to learn how awful this procedure is for cats, and that it causes worse behaviors (including biting, inappropriate urination) than simply scratching furniture (which can be stopped by providing scratching posts!) It's terrible to think that we live in a world where people value their sofas more than their pets.

Contact your elected representatives and ask them to start a bill. You can read what they vote on, what their interests are, and start with the representatives that show interest in animal welfare. I did this, also. You can mention the three current state bills to get them interested, also.

It IS terrible. Many vets actually advertise and push declawing, making it very clear they think furniture is more important that the cat. "No more scratched couches!" and advertisements like that. You can follow City The Kitty, The Paw Project, Veterinary Workers Against Declawing, and a number of other sites that are working toward banning this mutilation of cats.
post #72 of 83
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Originally Posted by otto View Post


Contact your elected representatives and ask them to start a bill. You can read what they vote on, what their interests are, and start with the representatives that show interest in animal welfare. I did this, also. You can mention the three current state bills to get them interested, also.

It IS terrible. Many vets actually advertise and push declawing, making it very clear they think furniture is more important that the cat. "No more scratched couches!" and advertisements like that. You can follow City The Kitty, The Paw Project, Veterinary Workers Against Declawing, and a number of other sites that are working toward banning this mutilation of cats.


I haven't been paying attention to this thread for awhile. It's good to see as much interest in this cause. I have a shredded couch and footstool, however it's taken 2 cats 10 years to do it. I've been criticized by a friend for "allowing " this to happen. "You should have them declawed, they have destroyed your furniture". I replied by asking her about her dog who had chewed her dining room table legs so badly she had to replace it. I asked her if she was going to have it's teeth pulled. She was horrified that I would suggest such a thing, I told her that declawing was just as bad. Besides, the furniture still functions as furniture, it's just been "modified".;)

post #73 of 83

Yes, here the vets advertise 4 paw declaw for just an additional $10!  Why just get 2 done when for another 10 you can have all 4.  They tell people it makes for a better pet!  Better for who?

post #74 of 83
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Originally Posted by Red Clay View Post
I replied by asking her about her dog who had chewed her dining room table legs so badly she had to replace it. 

 

When I was about 11 years old I had to write a creative writing essay, which I did, no problem.  Then, overnight our puppy got hold of my essay book and chewed it.  The next day I went to school and handed the teacher my book with a whole chunk missing, and the remaining half of it smudged with her puppy splutterings.  I remember even at that young age my sense of humour when I said, "sorry Miss, my dog ate my homework!"  

 

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post #75 of 83

I didn't mean any flippancy by my homework story, by the way.  I just remembered it when Red Clay said about dogs chewing stuff.   

post #76 of 83
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Originally Posted by catvet02 View Post
 

Please visit https://www.facebook.com/ThePawProjectOC to find out how to help NY ban declaws statewide and find out more

about The Paw Project, available on Netflix.  There is no reason to declaw.  Please help spread the word!


Followed.

post #77 of 83
Free anti-declawing handbook written by Dr Jean Hofve. Download and spread the word!

http://www.littlebigcat.com/declawing/anti-declawing-handbook-for-cat-lovers/
post #78 of 83
I am so against declawing. It's so cruel! Cats were meant rule the world. It's so disrespectful!😡😸
post #79 of 83
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Originally Posted by Crazy4Strays View Post

I would rather replace every piece of furniture in my house than declaw a cat.
i always say: "this is why mommy can't have nice things!" smile.gif I choose furniture and nick nacs very wisely! mine really aren't bad but my father in laws house- between wallpaper damage and wood moldings -- he NEEDS a scratcher!!! i have a really good one it's tall and has two scratch areas and is sturdy, i'm going to get a second one soon $100 each :p
post #80 of 83
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Originally Posted by Kittylove14 View Post

i always say: "this is why mommy can't have nice things!" smile.gif I choose furniture and nick nacs very wisely! mine really aren't bad but my father in laws house- between wallpaper damage and wood moldings -- he NEEDS a scratcher!!! i have a really good one it's tall and has two scratch areas and is sturdy, i'm going to get a second one soon $100 each :p

Shopping for scratching posts and cat trees have become more exciting for me than buying my own clothes. They come in so many designs and I'm always excited to see how Charlie likes his new tree!
post #81 of 83
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Originally Posted by Abyeb View Post

Shopping for scratching posts and cat trees have become more exciting for me than buying my own clothes. They come in so many designs and I'm always excited to see how Charlie likes his new tree!
A lot of people wish clothes came in bigger sizes. But i wish cat trees were larger too! Most have tiny perches that my males wouldnt be able to lay on. They're not obese or fat. Just longer. frown.gif
post #82 of 83
tangent here


even 'fat boy' fits on top. i got sick of all the little cardboard pieces so these new ones have zero smile.gif there's a little faux sherpa on the tall one smile.gif buy one get one half at petco
post #83 of 83
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Originally Posted by kittyluv387 View Post

A lot of people wish clothes came in bigger sizes. But i wish cat trees were larger too! Most have tiny perches that my males wouldnt be able to lay on. They're not obese or fat. Just longer. frown.gif

I just need sturdy trees, Charlie is 12 lbs, but very muscular and athletic. He likes to sprint around the house at amazing speed, and then jump on a perch, so I just have to make sure that the tree won't tip over when he sails through the air to land on top of the tree.

Anyway, this tangent has been fun, but maybe other posters would appreciate if we went back to the original topic.

I like seeing Charlie running around, jumping, and just being an active cat, but declawed cats are in such pain that they can't do these things easily. Just looking at a cat walking you can tell if it has been declawed or not. Additionally, claws give cats traction when they are landing after a jump and while sprinting (just like runners spikes!)

I met a local cat owner who had a lively, energetic kitten, who he then got declawed. (I learned about this after the fact, so there was no way I could convince him otherwise), the cat then started hiding under the bed the whole day and never wanting to play or do any sort of activity. The pain from the declaw meant that she could no longer do activities she enjoyed previously like chasing toys or climbing her cat tree. Even a year later she is still hiding and not doing any of there activities that our cats love doing. Yet, the owner is still glad that he got this done. A declaw ban would prevent people like this from hurting their cats in this way, simply because they value their sofas more than their cat.

I have a longer post on this topic earlier on, if anyone wants to read that too.
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