I'm no veterinarian, certainly, but too little fibre can mean problems with stool and anal glands that don't express, and that I know from first-hand experience.
-
Too many ads? Join our community of cat lovers now to reduce ads by 90%! Click here to join for free!
Wysong Epigen canned - perfect or not?
- Thread starter zoneout
- Start Date
Maybe it's different for individual cat? My cats are doing fine with high protein canned and raw food, and adding more water and occasional butter to their food solved constipation problem. One of them has problem with psyllium (he vomits). I don't know much about anal glands and fiber. He had to be expressed when eating Iams dry but not anymore. But the canned food I feed them have a small amount of veggies in them, too, so maybe that's enough for my cats.
Fibre can bulk up the stool which in turn can help to express the anal glands. I feed a mix of canned and dry with my cats. I've noticed if the dry isn't high enough in fibre, my poor Morgenne, and occasionally Thoby and Sylvia Rose, have to have their anal glands expressed. I've talked to a few other people with similar issues. If someone's feeding all wet, for example, and its meat and vitamins, then what does the cat do? If they eat a mouse, they're eating the vegetation the mouse ate which should help with the fibre issue. Does this make sense? What's wrong with including a bit of pumpkin?
While discussion on the potential requirements (or otherwise) for fibre in a domestic cat's diet, and whether the source being animal or vegetable would be important, may be interesting it is not part of @zoneout 's question.
Perhaps if anyone wishes to continue the discusion on potential benefits of fibre in feline diet they should do so in a new thread as it is leading away from the op's original question. Thank you.
- Thread Starter Thread Starter
- #25
You`ll be happy to note Holistic Select is BPA free. From their Q&A...
No, the lining of our cans is made of a food grade emulsion coating approved by the USDA and it serves as absolutely no health hazard. Feel free to store the remaining meal in the opened cans but please do cover it and refrigerate it.
- Thread Starter Thread Starter
- #26
I am cautiously optimistic about Holistic Select. But for the fact it is a subsidiary of Wellpet (they make Wellness) so far so good.
That's great! Thank you for finding out. I just got one from a local health food store. They only had seafood one. One of my cats loved it. The other one wasn't so sure. I probably order some from Chewy next time along with ZiwiPeak.
I don't understand why health food stores still carry so many cat food with brown rice, oats and barley. DH said it's because their target customers are vegans, but I'm not sure. Luckily I keep discovering more local independent pet stores and feed stores that carry different canned and raw foods. I can't say I'm not enjoying.
- Thread Starter Thread Starter
- #28
@ankitty did the can of Holistic select have like a clear jelly substance surrounding the pate?
No, it was more like pate and some juice.
- Thread Starter Thread Starter
- #30
But the juice was clearly surrounding the pate block ?
BTW, do you live someplace warm? It`s freezing where I am which could have caused the liquid to jellify (if thats a word).
BTW, do you live someplace warm? It`s freezing where I am which could have caused the liquid to jellify (if thats a word).
Last edited:
Have you looked into this one? It doesn't have carrageenan or guar gum, although it has mysterious ocean fish or potato starch in it.
it's made in California.
http://www.lotuspetfoods.com/for-cats/canned-pate/chicken-vegetable/
http://www.lotuspetfoods.com/for-cats/canned-just-juicy/turkey/
it's made in California.
http://www.lotuspetfoods.com/for-cats/canned-pate/chicken-vegetable/
http://www.lotuspetfoods.com/for-cats/canned-just-juicy/turkey/
- Thread Starter Thread Starter
- #32
Yeah Ive seen lotus at the petstore. Dont all their flavors have veggie fillers in the ingredients? I`m trying to keep that to a minimum. But I guess it is a step up from Wellness
- Thread Starter Thread Starter
- #34
Yeah, that`s what I thought. They seem to have it loaded up with sweet potatoes, peas, apples and other stuff cats just love.
I like Lotus's Just Juicy line. It's fairly low carb, and the only vegetable is pieces of carrot which are easily picked out (by you or by the cat). Unfortunately my cat seems to be getting tired of the shredded type foods, after she would only eat those for months.
So now I'm trying to find pates with decent ingredients that, hopefully, I can feed to both cats. I'm considering trying Wysong Epigen and adding a supplement mix, but it would be nice to have more detailed nutrient info.
Last edited:
Some brands out there are same for dog or cat so you can get BIG cans, Weruva seems to be one
Last edited:
Zone out have you tried Merrick pates in rotation, my cats never tire of it and have no issues. I use their 5.5 oz cans and Pride 5.5 oz cans along with nutro natural choice chunky chicken loaf and tiki puka luau and soulistic in small cans
Last edited:
- Thread Starter Thread Starter
- #38
I know Merrick has a great reputation. I always wanted to try it but I think avoided since they dont have 13 oz cans. If the Holistic Select experiment doesn`t work out I am going to have to bite the bullet and go to the smaller cans.
Anymore it's a toss up for health and what the cat will actually eat. Merrick is still affordable and fussy pants always eats chicken and duck pate. Lately she snubs soulistic so the boy gets it. Now she is down to Merrick Pate, Pride rabbit, nutro chunky chicken, tiki Puka luau, wellness Devine duo chicken/duck and natural balance catatouille stew. Glad my boy eats anything! Chicken, duck and rabbit is all she likes.
Last edited:
