Breeding

I have Four(3 females,1male) flame point long haired cats with kinked tails that spiral. They look so piggy !
All females are pregnant and will give birth in a few days. I hope all the little kitty babies have the same cute spiraled kinked tail! And they will certainly grow big!
My male is almost 27 pounds and my females are roughly 25 pounds.
Hopefully i can find them all homes. Vet is guessing 6 kitty babies per female. 18!

Hi and welcome!

Are you a licensed breeder? I ask because some things you say lead me to believe this is unlikely.

I see you are new, so just so you know,Under Forum Rules: Cat Care Policies, Guidelines and Stances  (the relevant bit in red)

3. This is a pro-spay-and-neuter website. Please make sure to spay and neuter your cats. Unless you are a professional breeder and your cat is part of a professional breeding program, please educate yourself to the importance of spaying and neutering by the time your cat is 4-6 months old.  Read More Here.

Good luck with the kittens- I certainly do hope all goes well with the births!!

TheHairlessness said:

I have Four(3 females,1male) flame point long haired cats with kinked tails that spiral. They look so piggy !
All females are pregnant and will give birth in a few days. I hope all the little kitty babies have the same cute spiraled kinked tail! And they will certainly grow big!
My male is almost 27 pounds and my females are roughly 25 pounds.
Hopefully i can find them all homes. Vet is guessing 6 kitty babies per female. 18!

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Ouch, you got yourself a lotsa of small kittens almost simultaneously.   Lets hope everything goes well, otherwise you will have a great lotsa of work around the clock and a happy, rich vet.   If the females are friendly with each other, they will probably help each other.  Even the male may help with the kittens, if he is best friends with the moms.   But observe, he may also make them pregnant again.   And you dont wish it, not after they just had so big a litter.   Cat moms arent protected by lactacing from new pregnancies.   So, beware!

Im reacting to these kinked spiral tails.  I presume they are littermates?   Is he akin to them the stud too?   If so, you are inbreeding them heavily!   If he is not near akin, one stud on three sisters as I think they are - makes you are essentially producing 18 of the same genetical individual.   Yes, you are essentially producing 18 clones.

Sold as pets it doesnt matter, but sold as unique breeding cats, they will be virtually worthless for a serious breeder.  Not even mentioning unregistered cats are virtually worthless for a serious breeder... 

The real problem about these kinked spiral tails.  Had you talked about them with your vet?  Is he good, experienced in cat genetics, obstetrics, and used to counselor breeders?

I mean, I hear an eko of tail knicks.  Here in Sweden a cat with tail knicks are almost always stopped from breeding, if there is the least suspicion the knick is a genetical damage.  The risk is big these knicks get worse in the next generations -  you may even get kittens with open backs [spinal cord rupture, is the word I think], or, without  skulls, or similiar, if you are maximally unlucky.

Cats with genetical knicks are also disqualified from certificates and champion titles on the Shows.   Its only if you can prove these damages are done during their life, they may pass to a certificate.  The judges are always feeling along the tail, if they feel any knick.

Now, its not sure my knick is the same as your kink, but you understand my anxiety.

So lets hope its a stable, non dangerous mutation they do have, alike that natural breed of japanese cats do have.

Im sending our usual list of links for oncoming birthing.   I presume you had done much of your mandatory reading on, but you will perhaps find some links useful anyway.  If nothing else, so for rereading.  "Rereading / rehearsing  is the mother of fluency in knowledge" as the old Romans did say.

You are welcome to further questions and rapports.

Good luck!

Most of these links have been readied by our forumist  Red Top Rescue:

We have a good collection of articles in the Cat Health section which you can access by scrolling up to the brown bar, clicking on Articles,and then choosing the Cat Health section and scrolling through the choices.  To make this super easy for you, I am copying the links regarding birth, delivery and newborns for you here.  After reading this information, let us know if you have any more questions.  And good luck with your approaching new arrivals.

 Birth, Delivery and Newborns

How to Tell if My Cat is Pregnant?

Cat Pregnancy

How Do I Know When My Cat Will Give Birth?

Pregnant Cat? What to Prepare For the Birth

Help! My Cat is Having Kittens!

Premature Kittens

Post-Birth Complications in Cats

And also:

http://www.icatcare.org/advice/my-cat-having-kittens     ( This is a link to a group of articles on cat pregnancy, birth and kittens.   Read the ones on normal cat birth and on " when to wait and when to worry"  ) 

Fleece or flannel good to use in the bedding for kittens.

I wasn't going to reply to this, but I eventually decided to do so anyway.

First of al, congratulations! Having your cat giving birth is an absolutely magical experience and it'll be something you'll never forget again! I hope everything will go well and you can enjoy your kittens until they leave again and I hope they'll have an happy and healthy life ahead of them.

Now onto my concerns.  You mention your cats to be 27 and 25 pounds.  If you do not have Main Coons, it's extremely heavy. I'm not saying they are overweight, but do know that having and breeding large cats can cause health issues if not done properly, and I'm sure you do not want to continue adding to problems. Next to that, the "pig like" tails you speak of worry me as well. As mentioned above, it can cause mayor problems and you are basically breeding with it, which will mean you are adding it to their genes. The kittens might have it, or they might wear it but not show it, and even if they do have it it might not cause problems; but do know that it eventually might end up causing problems (either on their older age, or if continued breeding at kittens further along the line), and again, you do not want to add to problems or continue problematic mutations.

I would, due to their tails, suggest to get your 4 cats helped after their litters. I would also only place out your kittens with a contract stating they aren't allowed to breed with them and order them to get their cats helped on the appropriate age. The tails might be just fine, but as you can't be sure what it might cause (if it's not a pedegree cat), you just don't want to risk it. It's not worth it,