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post #1 of 25
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http://www.msnbc.com/news/997952.asp?cp1=1

scary
post #2 of 25
I find that creepy in more ways than one. Sure, you'd never lose your ATM card, but what about theives? Would they start chopping off fingers instead of picking pockets?
post #3 of 25
I bet the hardcore theives wouldn't have any issues about chopping off a thumb here or there. And what about the kidnapping factor? Just heist someone you see using their thumb to get money out of an ATM machine, and you don't even have to mame anyone. I think I'll stick to my ATM card.
post #4 of 25
That is too creepy for my liking!
post #5 of 25
Just for kicks, here ya go!

Revelation 13:17
so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.

Revelation 14:9
A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: "If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand,

Revelation 19:20
But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped his image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur.

Money as the anti-Christ? You know, the thing that seems like the solution to all our problems (but actually causes more), the thing we all live for, the thing that we can't live without? Okay, it's late in the day and I'm tired...
post #6 of 25
Why bother with RFID chips?

We all have something unique to us already...fingerprints!!!! A whole lot less painful. No injections, no implants that could get lost.
post #7 of 25
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Originally posted by glentheman20
Just for kicks, here ya go!

Revelation 13:17
so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.

Revelation 14:9
A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: "If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand,

Revelation 19:20
But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped his image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur.

Money as the anti-Christ? You know, the thing that seems like the solution to all our problems (but actually causes more), the thing we all live for, the thing that we can't live without? Okay, it's late in the day and I'm tired...

yep it's following what the Bible says
post #8 of 25
Not to just play Devil's Advocate, but haven't the signs of the apocolypse been around for years? Wars, pestulance, the moon turning to blood, the dragons (which could be seen as the avionic technology of today), etc.

I remember when bar codes (UPC symbols) were introduced into common practice in early 1980s, and some Christian groups were up in arms because the number 6 is one of the easiest numbers in binary code to program, therefore the number 666 (and variants, like 6666, 66666, etc.) was commonly seen in bar codes. They considered that to be the Number of the Beast, and the Mark of the Beast and fulfilling the prophesy in Revolutions, as quoted above by Glen.

And actually, we all already have our own serial number as a social security number which "no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark" - or Federal ID number. That definitely holds true, even if it doesn't include the number 666. That has been around since the 1920s.

Doesn't it also say that no one will know when Judgement Day will come, that only God knows the timing?
post #9 of 25
Fester has questions!

What if you have more credit cards than you have fingers?

What if you wave the wrong finger at the machine?

What if you wave a finger at the machine and the 6'8, 300lb monster in line behind you thinks you're giving him the bird?

What if the bank cancels your card, do you lose a finger?

What if you SEE someone missing fingers, are they clumsy, did they suffer an industrial accident or do the just not pay their bills?

What if you have the chip and you pick your nose? Will your bank call and ask "What's with all the Kleenex?

Relax floks, if the day ever comes that we have to choose the mark or be beheaded, I'm sure that the whole process will be done at your local Department of Motor Vehicles Office.
That is fine by me since if I had only one day left to live, I'd spend it at the DMV since EVERY visit there lasts an ETERNITY!
post #10 of 25

thanks for the humor, Fester.
post #11 of 25
If they're as small as a grain of sand, why do they need to be so freakin big as shown?
post #12 of 25
Well, it looks like humans are being microchipped now
post #13 of 25
LOL Jimmy!

And yes Heidi, you are correct. Lots of people in history have thought that the days of WWII for example were the last days and Hitler (for example) was the definite anti-christ. It says that the hills and rocks will cry out in the last days, and as bad as life is at times, it isn't that bad yet. But not everyone has a social security number either. The universal number (the mark of the beast) whenever it is created is supposed to be very visible, stamped on our foreheads (tatooed more than likely)
post #14 of 25
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Originally posted by Kiwideus
Well, it looks like humans are being microchipped now
lol it sure looks that way
post #15 of 25
I think its a good idea, personally. I just recently had to cancel and have all my cards re-issued because I lost my purse (I think someone swiped it out of my unlocked car). My hubby calls me "Forgetful Jones" , so microchips would be the things for me Bring it on!!
post #16 of 25
I'd be afraid of having my every move tracked. Since Americans and Britons object to national ID cards, I can't really see people being willing to have themselves microchipped. There are better alternatives - fingerprints, as mentioned, or irises. This whole idea gives me the creeps.
post #17 of 25
me too this is one line you won't find me standing in!
post #18 of 25
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Our identity as we know it will be non-existant
post #19 of 25
Well, the way I look at it, most of my personal information is out there for everyone to see because of technology and the internet, so it can't get much worse. If someone had their mind set on finding me or stealing my identity, they could do it now. Microchips under my skin won't change anything much.
post #20 of 25
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It still scares me knowing that the Government would know
my every move
post #21 of 25
This is an issue I descussed a few years ago with some people. I am totally against any implants in people as the next thing will be you won't be able to do anything without the implant--and it will then be a (requirement). Give them an inch they will take a mile. It would then be easy for the government to force it on everyone. No one will be able to grocery shop, drive a car, work or anything without the implant installed. Never should it be allowed. {{{Do it we loose our freedom forever.}}} Mark of the beast YES it would be.
post #22 of 25
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Originally posted by farmfetish
This is an issue I descussed a few years ago with some people. I am totally against any implants in people as the next thing will be you won't be able to do anything without the implant--and it will then be a (requirement). Give them an inch they will take a mile. It would then be easy for the government to force it on everyone. No one will be able to grocery shop, drive a car, work or anything without the implant installed. Never should it be allowed. {{{Do it we loose our freedom forever.}}} Mark of the beast YES it would be.
I totally agree
post #23 of 25
In fact the discussion was on protecting our children from preditors. And finding missing children. Of which I agree something needs to be done but not by implanting microchips in their arms.
post #24 of 25
The subject of implants. My husband and I had an argument over this a few years ago. He was right in the view that it would help keep track of our children and if a child disappeared they could be tracked. I told him there should be another way not implants under the skin. Maybe a bracelet that could be removed after they turn 18 etc. but never an implant as that would be the first start in the government control. As I believe that once you start the implant thing no matter how good the idea might be for the children abducted and killed every year. There has to be another way as that would be the thing the government would need to go on with requiring that it be mandatory that everyone be implanted. Once started it could never stop. The government would then control our lives totally; we could not make a move without them knowing it. To be able to even to eat, drink, drive a car, go to the doctor, go to school or buy anything etc. we would have to have a microchip implanted. In other words without a microchip implant we could do nothing at all. This in my opinion is really the MARK OF THE BEAST. As the bible goes a lot of things are symbolic and cannot really be seen. The Mark of The Beast is also symbolic of things that will occur here on earth. (Not visabally seen by the naked eye). Total Government control by all the Nations.
post #25 of 25
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things is...there are always pros and cons on everything
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