My half-feral half-domesticated eight-month-old kitten dilemma

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I joined this site because I need some wise advice from those who have much experience with taming feral kittens and working with strays. My sister manages a colony of about 20 ferals (whom she has personally had spayed/neutered over the years) on Hatteras Island, and even she was stumped when I told her this story and asked her to help me understand what is going on. Bear with me. This is long because I need to tell the entire story.

Some background information: All of last year, I very randomly saw a female cat crossing my back yard as if she was on her way from one place to another. She looked quite scrawny, so I always set out a bowl of scraps for her (chicken, lunch meat, etc….no cat food since we didn’t have a cat anymore…my beloved 14-year-old sweet girl had died a year prior).

Sometime around mid-to-late July, a black and white kitten peered into the door of our screened porch, and when I went out to put some milk and soft food down for him, he darted off in fear. It was hard to gauge his age because he looked at least three months, but he was very scrawny.

The next day, the mother cat showed up for food, and as soon as she ate some chicken scraps and drank some water, she lay down on her side, and immediately, the black kitten darted out from where it had been hiding in the shrubs near my porch door, and she nursed him.

I saw the two of them a bit sporadically for the next two weeks, then on August 1, they began showing up every evening anywhere from 5 to 7 pm. I’m in Florida where it doesn’t get dark until almost 9 in the summertime. They would eat, hunker down for a few minutes, then leave.

Gradually they stayed longer each time, and soon a black tomcat began accompanying them. The kitten’s marking are just like his, so he is obviously the dad. He was a very involved kitty dad—always let the kitten eat first, then he would groom him and play with him. The kitten tried to nurse the mom during this time, but she was forcefully weaning him, and he soon realized how much he liked regular food.

From August 1 to September 1, the cat family came every evening, and eventually the kitten played for hours on our porch with us. The tomcat seems like a stray because he is very approachable and comfortable around us. The mom cat acts like a true feral—always skittish. By September 1, the kitten would play until he fell asleep on a chair cushion we put on the porch floor for him (it’s a screened porch—we kept the door open), and he would sleep all night on our porch. He looked older than three months—supposedly past the age when you can domesticate feral kittens—but he made it clear that he wanted us to be his human family, and our home was his home. His parents would sneak off and leave him sleeping by himself on our porch.

Sometime soon after September 1, I decided to totally adopt the kitten and never let him outside again, because he seemed so happy and relieved to be done with the hard life of survival in the wild. He happily played, ate, and slept in our house or in our enclosed screened porch (door closed now) for three weeks until I decided to take him to the vet on September 25 to be vaccinated, dewormed, and neutered. I fed his parents out another back door when they showed up. I didn't see the tomcat much during these three weeks.

The night before the surgery, we had to not give him food past 10 pm, of course, which meant for the first time since he had adopted us as his family, in his kitty mind, we were depriving him of food and he was hungry, which I think scared him. He must have been crying and meowing on the porch all night long (I didn’t hear him for some reason, and I’m usually a light sleeper), because when I woke up on the morning to take him to the vet (Sept 25), I could see that the screen had been ripped in a few places, and there was my kitten boy roaming in the backyard. His tomcat was also in the back yard. I think he must’ve heard his kitten son crying all night long and decided to rip the screen and set him free.

So I took the kitten to the vet, where I learned that he was six months old. He did well with his surgery, and within two days, had regained all his energy and fully recovered.

THEN--and here is where the story veers off onto another track, and I need help and advice—this kitten, who had been so happy and content staying in our house and porch, and not going outside since Sept 1 (other than the night before surgery when his daddy broke him out of porch prison, so to speak), suddenly wanted OUT and BAD.

So on September 27, because I didn’t want him to rip the screens in his desperation to get out that morning, I let him out, and he immediately took off toward the gate of our privacy fence and crawled under it. I watched where he went after that as far as I could see, and he followed the same track they had all followed when they’d come every night in the month of August for their dinner.

Keep in mind that this is the ONLY feral/stray cat family I have seen in the entire year and a half I’ve lived in his neighborhood. There is NOT a large feral colony. Also keep in mind that these are very involved parents, and oddly enough, the tomcat daddy is very involved. Maybe it was a first litter for the mom and the dad. Maybe the kitten was the only one who survived, and so they are very attached to him (like “helicopter parents” as lots of young parents are these days).

From September 27 until today, this has been my kitty’s pattern: he leaves early in the morning, anywhere from 5 am to 8 or 9 am, and I do not see him until he comes home after dark. When he comes home, he is truly my baby. He sleeps on my bed, plays with his toys, knows where his special treats drawer is, and is my sweet boy. He is totally domesticated.

BUT—while he is gone all day, and I mean 12 to 14 hours at a stretch—the mom cat comes around at least twice for meals during the day. The tomcat comes around twice for meals. His last visit is usually just before dark. When the tomcat daddy leaves, after 30 minutes later, my kitty comes home.

I swear to God, it is like they are taking shifts guarding the cat family campsite in a wooded lot that I see them heading to, and his shift is the day shift, and their shift is the night shift. I NEVER see my kitty during the day. He literally does not come home until dark, no matter how much I call him, no matter how much it rains (as it is doing no). And when he does come home, he is so hungry, so thirsty, and so tired that he can barely eat and drink enough to be filled before crashing into an hours-long sleep. He is now only 8 months old, and it’s like his kittenhood is being robbed.

I honestly get the impression that his cat parents abuse him/bully him/coerce him into returning to the family cat campsite every single day, and he caves in because of the feral cat pecking order. I’ve seen the mom cat hiss and spit at him, and actually punch him as he tries to run past her. He sometimes plays in our yard for about 10 minutes before leaving, and he looks so happy and free, and then he leaves reluctantly, his little kitty facial expression and body language practically saying with dread, “Off to the salt mines.”

I wonder if maybe the female cat has had another litter of kittens because her paps sometimes look very red and swollen. Could it be that since they’re such an insular, involved cat family, my kitty feels compelled to go watch over the kittens all day long since the parents have that duty at night when he is here in my house?

Another development in the past few weeks is that he refuses to use a litterbox now. I literally have to take him outside, as if he were a little dog, and let him go potty. And sometimes he runs off to wherever the cat family campsite is instead of coming back in the house with me. He did this recently at 2:30 in the morning, yet he still did not come home until dark later that night.

Is this a weird case of him having one foot in the feral world and one foot in the human world because he was domesticated at five months? (Also, we never had to work to domesticate him. He took to us immediately as if we had raised him from birth.)

I can’t follow the cats to see exactly where they end up because they run along two privacy fences at the backs of other people’s yards, and then they scoot under a privacy fence and into the wooded area behind another person’s yard. I don’t know these people.

I just hope someone on this forum can help me understand why he would 1) disappear every day and not come home until dark, and when he does come home, he is starved, thirsty, and exhausted; 2) not come home when I call him (he comes when I call him here in the house); 3) not come home even when it’s raining unless it is dark, as in nighttime; 4) always run off to the exact same location they all came from when they used to visit me as a family group; 5) the mom cat only shows up to eat after my kitty has run off, as if they’re doing a shift change; 6) my kitty only comes home after the daddy tomcat has eaten his last meal of the day near dark, and leaves.

I suppose I want someone to tell me if my hunch is correct that he somehow feels compelled to return to their cat family campsite every day, but why?

And why did he start following this schedule two days after he was neutered when he had spent three weeks prior to that being perfectly happy as an indoor cat all the time?

The tomcat marks various places in my yard when he comes here to eat. (He does not come to eat as regularly as the mom cat does.) Is my kitty sensing, as the younger beta male, that my yard and the porch has now become the territory of the alpha male? Is that why my kitty runs away every day? I am seriously considering taking the tomcat to the humane society because he is tame enough to let me pick him up, and he has a festering sore on his forehead. Do you think this will solve the problem, and my kitty will no longer feel compelled to run to their family camp every day?

My heart is breaking because of never seeing my kitty except at night when he is thirsty, starved, and so tired he can hardly walk to my bed where he crashed into sleep for several hours, only to start the whole process over again. Any advice, suggestions, ideas, or words of wisdom are much appreciated.
 

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Is it possible to trap the mama cat and have her spayed, and have the tomcat neutered? If you look around there may be a TNR group in your area to help with the logistics and cost. I guess it could be that she has another litter and has enlisted him to babysit---it's usually daughters that babysit the kittens but since he was neutered before reaching maturity, or because he was an "only child" it could have changed things. Or whatever. . .cats are mysterious and they have to maintain that mystery after all! But I do think it would help if all the cats were fixed. At least they wouldn't have more kittens and the tom wouldn't get injured in fights as often.
 
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I am going to wait until mid-December to see if the mom brings the kittens around, as she did my kitty. Based on my calculations, by that point, the kittens would be about six weeks old. I will then take the tomcat to the humane society, because it will be easy to put him in a cat carrier and take him. I don't want to just TNR because that will perpetuate the whole family campsite dilemma that my kitty is facing. I know that I'll never be able to pick up the mom and put her in a carrier, because she is truly feral (you should've seen her scale the three screens of my porch within three seconds when the wind blew the door shut one time!) and I don't have a humane trap. Don't want to spend the money for one, and no one around here rents them out. 

I have a hunch they have enlisted him to babysit because of the insular nature of this cat family, and because they are the ONLY feral cats around here. They are just one family. They are not part of a colony. They probably got left behind from one of the many foreclosures that have happened here in Florida, and the mom reverted to being a true feral, whereas the tomcat learned that being endearing and meowing sweetly earns him more contact and food, and so he seems more like an abandoned stray.

I hate to say it, but I just think the best thing in this situation would be to get the parents to the humane society if at all possible, but I want to see if there are kittens, and know that they are old enough if I decide to spend the money on a humane trap and am able to trap the mom, which means they would be old enough to survive without her. If she brings them around, I will take the whole kit and kaboodle (literally, the whole litter) to the humane society.

BUT...I fear that no matter what I do, this bizarre "off to the salt mines" mentality that my boy now has will be forever ingrained in him whether he returns to an abandoned kitty campsite or one with his cat family in it.

The whole thing is mystifying because in all my years of having cats, I have never encountered such behavior before.

For instance, daddy tomcat showed up at 5:30 this evening to eat. He ate and left. It is now 6 and totally dark, and my boy is nowhere to be seen. It is still raining. Why do the parents feel free to come dine from my generosity during the day, but my kitty doesn't?

The only answer I can come up with is that they bully him into staying put until they deem it is his time to come home. I know that it is possible for alpha animals to bully beta animals. His demeanor when he comes home is why I have a hunch his parents are bullying him. It's breaking my heart. I will probably only be able to break the cycle by moving away, which can't happen just yet!
 
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Oh, and I meant to add that I plan to take the tomcat to the humane society soon (before the mom weans the kitten and goes into heat again) because he needs to have his wound treated, and I think he will be easily adoptable once neutered because he really does have a sweet, endearing personality. That way I'll be down to just figuring out what to do with the mom and the kittens, if my hunch is correct that she's had a new litter. :-)
 
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...and I have to let him out, because if I don't, he starts pulling at the screen as if he's going to rip it, and I can't afford to have that happen because I am renting this house. :/ I'm also worried that if I take tomcat to the humane society, cruel momcat will conscript my eight-month-old kitty (her son and the only survivor of her first litter) into doing even longer shifts because she won't have help from the tomcat anymore (he is the rare involved type of daddy cat). So you can see my dilemma.
 

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Unless it's a well-run no-kill shelter, most shelters just kill all fully-grown toms, believing that they'll spray and nothing can be done about it :(. So be careful. I never recommend taking cats to shelters because 75% of cats entering shelters nationally are killed, and I don't know how your shelters are run.

If they were altered it would reduce bullying and, obviously, babysitting wouldn't be an issue anymore :tongue2:. The Humane Society may rent traps, but some require that you take any trapped cats to them, which is frequently a death sentence. Florida has a large number of TNR groups, so if you haven't looked around for one in your area that could be worth a try.
 
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The tomcat does spray inside, because he's so comfortable around us that he cruised through my porch and into the house one time, and sprayed against the kitchen counter before I hustled him back out, luring him with food. So he would probably spray even after being neutered. I will look into a TNR group, but I supposed I'm worried that this cycle will never be broken. Still poring rain, it's been dark an hour, no kitty. I would go hunting for him with my rainboots, raincoat, and flashlight if I had the ability to scale wooden privacy fences!
 

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There is a sweet gray kitty in our neighborhood, part of a litter of ferals who socialized extremely well to humans. However, she gets bullied by others. (We did some training with our tom, and he has stopped bullying for the most part)

She is one of the sweetest cats ever. Occassionally she'll stay in our house, if not she'll stay with other people. I worry so much when she disappears for a couple days, but she goes nuts if she isn't let out after a few hours.

It is difficult with cats that grow up feral. Have you considered using the crate method with him? It would be difficult, but it would isolate him from the others. It is good that he comes back at night though.

I agree those kitties would be better off TNR'd than in the stressful shelter enviroment. Especially considering the lack of competition for territory and food. As for your baby, its not an easy call. I wish you and your feline friends the best, whatever way you feel is right.
 

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I wanted to give input on all your questions, but I'm on my teeny tiny phone screen, so I'll stick to a few short thoughts.

You said you're in Florida -a state with more feral cat, trap neuter return & low-cost fixing resources than any other. There are tons of wonderful organizations that are ready & willing to help you take care of this little family (that will obviously grow exponentially QUICKLY! you're probably only seeing the tip of the kitty/kitten iceberg!). Two sites that can help you -both online & over the phone are Alley Cat Allies at alleycat.org and spayflorida.org. I know you said you don't want to rent/can't find a trap(s) ---these organizations are wonderful to work with and can help you through any concerns, personal or otherwise.

I know that it was mentioned tag most places immediately euthanize un-neutered males --- know that this varies from shelter to shelter. Yes, some do immediately. But some organizations will neuter & find him a home. But you've got to do your due diligence & call to find out how any place you'll take him will handle him. Shelters are up to their ears in cats - just finding a shelter that will take him may be extremely difficult. It sounds as though he's injured too - which would be another reason some shelters would euthanize , as he'll represent a decent chunk of change for them to put in him right away between neutering, general medical ....so when you add the wound care, he's a big expense some shelters won't/can't deal with. But either of the places I noted can probably help point you to a low-cost vet willing to help you with him.

Please consider at the very least contacting an organization (just do an online search & you can find more than I've listed) that could come out & trap & neuter the adults. Otherwise you'll have a long, long line at the porch food bowl very, very soon!!!!!

If your guy does insist on going in & out, there are ways to work with that behavior but it can be quite the process. At least you're in a very warm climate, and can provide a screened porch even when he's not inside. Obviously totally indoors is safest for him, but if it's not possible, I for one at least think it's better than a shelter (& I work with a no- kill shelter, so I feel like i speak from experience). Hopefully you're not on a busy street! :) but please consider talking to someone at an experienced organization-I can almost guarantee you'll find someone who can help with the WHOLE family ;)
 

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And meant to say too -yeah for you for caring so much & doing what you've done already!
 
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Thanks for all the input. I haven't been on here since my first postings because I hosted a houseful of ten people for Thanksgiving, and between that and life--busy! My kitty boy is now almost 9 months old, and the same pattern continues. I am almost to the point where I'm wondering if he's deaf or partially deaf because he DOES NOT come when called, even though now his mom and dad both know the names I've given them, and when I call my boy during the day, THEY show up minutes later.

I am convinced that my kitty is following the same behavior that kittens are taught by their feral mothers: to only come and go at dawn and dusk when it is safest, because this is his pattern. He wakes me anywhere from 5:30 to 6:00 am and is bonkers to go out. I cannot force him to stay in. He would climb the screens otherwise. Then, he doesn't come home until nearly 7:00 pm.

These kitties never run to and fro across streets. I can tell based on how they approach and leave my house that they are following a fenceline behind backyards and heading to a wooded lot on a residential street that never had a house built on it.

So I think in his young mind--especially if he cannot hear to well, and I'm really starting to wonder that based on his behavior here at home too--he takes off at dawn and runs to his safe place--the kitty enclave he knew as a baby--and doesn't come home until it is dark.

He comes home starved, thirsty, and so worn out he can barely eat long enough to conk out into a deep sleep. He sleeps nearly the entire time he is at home, only to start the whole process over again.

It is WEIRD.

I do not necessarily want to involve TNR groups because unless someone has constant daily access to the kitties like I have (his mom and dad still come to eat twice a day, DURING THE DAY, unlike my baby (???) they will have quite a challenging time trapping them. I will have an easy time trapping the tomcat because he is so tame and is very comfortable around us...saunters into my home if I were to let him. The mom is getting more comfortable around me too.

But even if I get them spayed and neutered, which I want to do, that will not solve MY problem...and this is what I wish someone somewhere could help me demystify:

--Why was my kitty perfectly happy to be an indoor-only kitty for three weeks until I had him neutered? As soon as he recovered on day two after surgery, he started this bizarre daily pattern. I think maybe the surgery scared him, and the whole experience "told" him that our home is no longer safe during the day. Does that make sense?

--Why does he not come when I call him during the day, even though his mom and day show up minutes later to eat?

--Why doesn't he ever come home during the day?

--Why does he follow this strict self-imposed schedule?

--If he does have a hearing problem, could it be that his parents sense that, and therefore abuse him into "working the salt mines" every day by being on 14-hour kitty-camp guard duty while they saunter around living the good life, coming to my house twice a day to eat and lounging about here as if they have all the time in the world, even though it most definitely looks like the mom is nursing kittens.

These are the things my mind desperately wants answers to. In other words, getting mom and dad cat spayed and neutered is very doable, and I can handle that.

But that won't solve the mystery of what is happening to my little guy ever day with this weird schedule, which only began AFTER he was neutered and AFTER he had happily been an indoor-only kitty for three weeks.

I beat myself up constantly because I think I had him neutered too soon, and it scared him, and that fear gave him the illogical logic that this house is somehow not safe during the day (when I took him to the vet) but is safe to sleep in because that was the pattern he established as a five-month-old kitten, on his own accord, when his parents used to bring him around to eat at 5 or 6 in the evening in late summer.
 

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Remind me again as to why you let him out again?  I know he was scratching the screens but was there another reason?  It will not be impossible to bring him in again permanently and IMHO that would be the best approach.

He has taken up old habits right now - running to his safe place during the day and returning at night.  Whether mom and dad (or other cats) are bullying him and whether he's deaf or not, this new routine can be altered to keep him inside permanently.  Cats take a long time to adjust to any change, so you are going to need a lot of patience during the transition.

If you can give him a room of his own for the duration, please do so.  He will adjust to being an inside only kitty, with your help and support.

I know you know this but mom and dad need to be fixed as soon as possible.  It will help calm things down all around.  I would also schedule a vet check for the kitten and ask about his hearing.  He may have an infection or ear mites.  Those can interfere with a cat's hearing.  We have a former stray who had ear mites so badly when she was a kitten, she is partially deaf now.
 
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Mystery Solved!

All of my hunches were correct. My Christmas present, brought home to me the day after Christmas by my sweet kitty boy, was a new little kitten sibling, a darling little tricolor. (I thought it was a girl, but a recent sighting of a certain appendage makes me think this is one of those rare tricolor male kitties.) The process of domesticating this one has been quick and easy because s/he follows big brother around and trusts him completely. When the weather turned cold here a few nights recently (Florida has some cold nights!), I put wool blankets on the lawn chairs on my screened porch, and they were all lined up in a row sleeping soundly, Mom, Dad, and both babies.

So it seems my kitty has been the main one teaching his little sibling, training, guarding, protecting, and that explains why he would trot off with a sense of urgency at 5:30 a.m. and not return home until 6:30–7:30 at night, probably when Mom or Dad returned to the family camp to give him a break. (I’m sure Mom was there nursing off and on too, but I would see her come here twice during the day, as well as Dad, and sometimes they would lounge about for hours. Now I know that I was correct in my hunch that they were leaving my boy to raise his sibling for the most part.)

As soon as this little one was old enough, my boy brought her home to where he knew was his safe place, because now that s/he’s here, he isn’t gone all day like he used to be, which was what prompted me to come to this forum seeking answers. He is a good teacher, because this little one stays put in the house or on the porch. My boy is a staunch guardian. At first, even when the little one was on the porch playing with my kitty’s toys, if my boy heard something that alarmed him in the least bit, he went on full alert and took off like a shot toward the gate of the privacy fence (they come in under it), hackles raised. Now I also know why he was coming home so exhausted after his 12-15-hour kitten guard duty shifts! (Additional note: his hearing is just fine. Seems he's the type of *person* who has selective hearing. He was mainly focused on getting to his little sibling as soon as possible and thus would ignore me when I would call his name.)

So it will be easy to get this one neutered because the domestication is moving along so smoothly since my intelligent kitty is able to instill trust and safety in this little one, something he didn’t receive from his very fearful mother. Based on my calculations of my kitty’s age (he’s the big black and white one, only 9 and a half months!) and the gestation period in cats, and based on when I remember seeing the Mom kitty’s very pregnant belly, I’m fairly certain this one is about 3 months old, maybe 4. S/he is much bigger now since I first saw her/him the day after Christmas, and is healthier overall than my boy was when I first took him to the vet at age 6 months (he looked like only 4 or 5 months) because the mother was well fed by me during this pregnancy. 

The mother is trusting me more and more, and even eats a bit of dry food out of my hand now. I will get her spayed as soon as she will let me by staying around more frequently. If she happens to have another litter, she will probably have the kittens here this time because she spends every night on my porch now, and not out in the cold woods somewhere. This is a huge step for her. Just six months ago, she wouldn’t eat unless I came back in the house, shut the sliding door, and pulled the drapes.

There have been many fun, special, and unique moments as this story has unfolded since Christmas, but I am giving the summary version because there are so many responses on here. I haven’t had time to monitor this discussion on a daily basis because I work from home, and these kitties take up all the rest of my time!

So my boy kitty is even more intelligent, responsible, caring, and just plain amazing than I already knew. He was a gift to me on my birthday (he found me then), and he brought his little sister (brother?) to me as a Christmas gift to give him/her a safe place to be.

I think this unique story shows that there are not always pat answers to every situation involving animals, just as there aren't with people.

The best cats are the ones who find you and choose you to be their Mom. :-)
 
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I had just read the latest, and the first posts.  A WONDERFUL story!  Although Im not THAT surprised by this fabulous big brother.  He has a wonderful pa, doesnt he?  And the males psychical properties are quite more hereditary than most would spontaneously think.   If you want to have a nice male cat, try to find one who had a nice, kind, caretaking dad.

I agree with you, if the mom will have yet another litter, she will surely deliver it nearby, and seek your cooperation.  But.  Cant you spay her already now?  Dont wait, do it as soon you can arrange it...   Is the dad spayed?  I saw big bro is neutered yes.

Last and least.   Im not sure  lill sibling is a tricolor "torbie".   Withouth having really good pics, I suspect he is a tabby and white, no real tricolor. 

Tx again for your caring, and for this lovely story!

Greetings and Good luck!
 
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Hi, Stefan, thanks for the positive comments. I will spay the mom as soon as I can, but I don't have a cage, and I would rather wait until she is truly domesticated, at least to the point of letting me pick her up and put her in a pet carrier, but it has taken me this long to earn her trust. I am worried that if I trap her, make her starve and go thirsty through the night in preparation for surgery the next morning, only to then cart her off to that scary experience, she will be so traumatized that she'll never trust me again.  

The dad IS sweet and very involved. It will be easy to catch him, as he as let us pick him up from day one, but he used to come loll about for hours at a stretch. I was so busy during the holidays when he was coming around a lot, I just could not get that done. Now I'm not seeing him as much during the day.

I also need to find a vet who will give me a price break considering that I am rescuing ferals/strays. When I had my kitty done, that bill was a whopping $350 for neutering, anesthesia (separate charge), deworming, and vaccinations.

I cannot afford that for more cats!

But yes, time is of the essence now. I am well aware of that. At least this is the ONLY kitty family I have ever seen in the year and a half that I have lived here. There is NOT a massive colony of ferals in the neighborhood where I live. I honestly think these kitties used to belong to a family, who was probably booted out of their house due to eviction or foreclosure, and the kitties got left behind, because the dad cat especially seems very acclimated to people.

About the little one, he is mainly white with splotches of gray stripes, and in a few little spots, like on his muzzle, his ears, and the armbands around his forelegs, he has a warm brown color. He is a replica of his mother's markings and his daddy's body shape. My boy is the opposite: his mom's body shape and his dad's markings.

I don't mention their names on here because I think it's dangerous when strangers know kitties' names, and you never know who might be reading this. There are a lot of strange people in this state, as everyone wo reads the news knows!

The most special thing about this is that I had a darling fur-baby "daughter"-- a beautiful siamese tortoiseshell blend (she looked like a fluffy, blue-eyed siamese with a bit of warm brown in her ears) for 14 years. She died of old age in January 2013, which truly broke my heart. I had raised her from birth, and she was so sweet, so special, so intelligent---truly my little daughter. I honestly believe that she's a kitty guardian angel now, and she brought these kitties into my life at a time when I really needed them. :-)
 

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Thanks for the update.  So glad these two were able to find you.

I would advise, though, even if you have to borrow a trap, that you get mom spayed ASAP.  You will otherwise have a new batch of kittens to deal with.  Trapping won't traumatize her any more than being put into a carrier and you can get the job done safely and quickly.

Good luck!
 
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