How to properly inject drugs with a sub-q

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I was wondering what is the proper way to inject drugs when giving a sub-q. I was taught to restrict to the line before the injection site at about 50% flow and then slowly inject the drug. I give him Cerenia every second day which stings them so I have to go really slow. When I let the hose flow 100% and inject the drug slowly he does not feel it and react. He also gets B12 which is red so I can see it is flowing into him and nothing is going back in the line. The sub-q kit I use has the injection port about 6" from the tip where the needle sits.

I guess the question would be do you restrict the flow before the injection site or do you let it flow free>

Thanks for any help.
 

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I was wondering what is the proper way to inject drugs when giving a sub-q. I was taught to restrict to the line before the injection site at about 50% flow and then slowly inject the drug. I give him Cerenia every second day which stings them so I have to go really slow. When I let the hose flow 100% and inject the drug slowly he does not feel it and react. He also gets B12 which is red so I can see it is flowing into him and nothing is going back in the line. The sub-q kit I use has the injection port about 6" from the tip where the needle sits.

I guess the question would be do you restrict the flow before the injection site or do you let it flow free>

Thanks for any help.
Is what you are doing not working anymore, or is there a reason you are asking about this NOW?  
  I thought your routine was working great. 

I don't have any answers for you on this as I have never injected anything into the fluids while giving them.  Have you asked your Vet about that particular questions, or is that where you learned to inject it really slowly in the first place? 

I'm hoping someone who has some experience with injecting Cerenia into fluids will come along and add to this, as I watched Dr. Kris's video and didn't see him address  that particular question. 
 
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No, the link did not address the injection of drugs. I don't have any issues with my guy and sub-q's but it is not like the link above. My guy has very little spare skin anywhere so it is really hard to make pockets and get the needle in there. The skin test for moisture doesn't always work for older cars because with age we all lose elasticity in our skin including cats. He comes for a sub-q and is a very good patient because I think it makes him feel better.

I only ask because I don't see what the difference is other than him getting a stronger dose of the drugs with a restricted flow. I can see the coloured drugs and how they flow and it goes straight into him so I am not really sure why you want to restrict the flow. You also have to flush the needle and injection port a few times after the drug goes in. I always pull some sub-q fluid into the needle and then inject it back into the line to push any residual drug back into the line.
 

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I was wondering what is the proper way to inject drugs when giving a sub-q. I was taught to restrict to the line before the injection site at about 50% flow and then slowly inject the drug. I give him Cerenia every second day which stings them so I have to go really slow. When I let the hose flow 100% and inject the drug slowly he does not feel it and react. He also gets B12 which is red so I can see it is flowing into him and nothing is going back in the line. The sub-q kit I use has the injection port about 6" from the tip where the needle sits.

I guess the question would be do you restrict the flow before the injection site or do you let it flow free>

Thanks for any help.
Hi

I give Cerenia sub Q (and B12) to my cat as well who has IBD and pancreatitis.  I just give him 50ml's of fluid first, then the cerenia, and then some more fluids and he's fine.  I was never told by my vet to restrict the line.  The B12 I give separately.  Mind you i only give him the cerenia sub q when he is having a crisis, otherwise he gets the cerenia in pill form daily.  Is there a reason why you can't give it as a pill?

What are you treating your cat for?
 

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thats all good and interesting, and nice pics.  Youre doing so right by him!  My guy simon gets cerenia and other pills in pill pockets which he likes and mask the taste.  but if he has a flare up of vomiting, he gets fluids and cerenia sub q.  Normally the protocal is 4 days on and 1 day off but at his dosage (was 4mg now is 8mg a day) my vet ok'd daily use and its made a big difference.  It used to be that on his "off day" he would get sick again so he really needs the drug daily, and at low dosages its tolerated.

SImon has IBD, pancreatitis, renal disease (early stage) and very mild HCM (heart muscle thickening).  Keeping him balanced is tricky.

He gets Prednisilone 5mg/daily

Cerenia, pepcid AC daily, plus probiotics and weekly B12 Sub Q, fluids as needed.

Can you tell me more about the device you use to weigh your fluids? A link?  And how much does 100ml's weigh?

Thanks

Stephen
 
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I treat the sub-q fluid like water, 1 gram = 1 ml of fluid. I give him 150 ml of sub-q fluid per day so I weigh it at 150 grams. The scale I am using only has two decimal points so it can be a little bit out but it won't be much, I would like to find a hanging scale that had 3 decimal points though,. That's good the pills still work on your guy, my guy doesn't seem to absorb meds well unless they are injected right into him.

 
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