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I am refraining from making public where I live until I'm done fixing this stray cat. All the vets here know each other and there is a chance that they read this site.

I don't want any negative comments having an impact on the welfare of the cat.

But I guess if I'm going to ask for the right advice and help I should give out more information

I am willing to share where I live by private messages if anyone is interested.

I live in an apartment in the middle of the financial district of town where I originally found this cat. The country that I live in has a desert climate and if it rains it's a maximum of 1 or 2 days a year. The coldest it will get in the middle of winter is 16 degrees centigrade at night if we are lucky. It's the summers that we need to worry about with temperatures reaching close to 50 degrees centigrade. The financial district is no place for a cat. There is a 14 lane highway that runs parallel to the Financial district and I already worry for another stray that lives near my building that I feed occasionally.

Yes I live in a tower in the middle of the city and have no access to a yard or garden or woods etc....

I recently imported a Russian Blue cat from a wonderful and respected breeder in Russia and also imported my 12 year old DSH cat from the UK. Both are still trying to get used to their new home and each other (very slow process for my 12 year old that suddenly found herself in a new home with a new young cat to deal with). My building is not animal friendly. The management company will not allow dogs on the premises but they tolerate cats as long as they remain quiet.

I already said that if I could afford it I will spend my last cent, penny, etc.... to get her healthy and if I couldn't afford it I am willing to beg, borrow and steal to get this cat healthy and I think I have proven it so far by going against all the advice of the previous vet and the animal welfare societies here that advised me to euthanise her. I just couldn't do it everytime I remembered those big terrified eyes lying there in the street helpless.

I worry that if I bring the cat home it will disturb the routine of my new kitten and my older cat who is and has always been a timid and scared cat. She doesn't like to socialise and never has for 12 years and spends most of her day sleeping under the bed in the spare bedroom only to come out if it's absolutely quiet and everyone is sitting down for some attention on her own terms.

I am also worried that if the stray starts howling constantly and believe me she is loud, my neighbours will complain and that would cause me plenty of problems with my building's management company.

My other worry is desease. I have already checked her for feline leukaemia and FIV and she is negative and I will deflea her and check her ears for mites but I don't know what else I should check for as I don't want her to spread anything to my current cats.

The fisherman's yard is a boat yard too. I can speak to the fishermen and give them money to feed the cat everyday. But keeping her caged there for a month is impossible. There are also many stray cats that live around the boat yard due to the amount of available food there but will they accept this newcomer?

Do you think releasing her again where I found her considering that she has survived at least two years in the financial district is a good idea? would she be more careful crossing the streets? Would she be more wary of cars now?

I am planning to keep her as long as possible to recover at the vet after her surgery but sooner or later she will have to leave. I will call the animal welfare groups again to see if they can find me a foster home to socialise this cat but I think they are all full as none of them could offer any help when I needed it after I picked up the cat.

All your advice is greatly apreciated and I am checking this site a few times a day for new feedback.

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Do you think this cat is originally from your neighborhood and has lived outside near your complex, or do you think this cat was owned by someone and dumped on the highway by someone who perhaps doesn't live in your neighborhood? Do you think this cat is an outdoor feral who wandered into the highway, or do you think someone had her inside at one time? This is a hard question to sort through, but has impact on your decision. If the cat has survived a few years living outside in your community, then this is her territory, and she has learned how to survive in it, even with the highways (most cats are smart enough not to attempt to cross a highway, unless they are ill or starving to death). If she was owned by someone and randomly dropped off in your neighborhood, then she may have difficulty learning the ropes of living in an urban area. The positive thing about her remaining near you would be that she would have you nearby to feed her. Are there any farms around where you live where you could advertise her as a barn cat needing a home? Can you print out flyers and post them in Trailer Supply and Agway stores?

The question about whether or not she would adapt to a new environment as part of a new cat colony is also hard to answer. Strong, healthy cats can become accepted by a new colony if they can establish their own dominance and can fight if necessary. Young intact males who can fight and young females in heat have the best chances of being accepted. There is also a higher possibility of acceptance if there is an adequate food source so they're not in competition for food.  Neutered cats and cats who are shy or weak are more likely to be driven away. If there is someone who will try to assume responsibility for your cat, then it's possible to find her a space where there aren't a lot of other cats so she won't have territory issues. I can only speak from my experience with outdoor cats and territory issues. Over the years, my un-trappable feral tomcat, Muffin, has brought to my block (his territory) a few female girlfriends to share his food bowl and space. He has also nurtured his offspring and brought them to me and my neighbors to feed (and we trapped, fixed, and adopted almost all of them). However, he will chase off any other intruder cat. He'll tolerate other ferals passing through the block occasionally, but when other cats try to establish residency, he will fight them and chase them off. Last summer the landlord of the renters in the house next to me trapped two black male, intact ferals on his property and dumped them on my block! These cats tried to hang around for a while because of the food source, but they caused problems on my block with their behavior and Muffin drove them away. It was sad for them, but a necessary reality. For the past 14 months, there have not been any other cats on my block, nor has Muffin brought me any other cats, for over a year. A starving stray appeared in my neighbor's yard a few months ago (someone dumped her) and she was completely tame, so my neighbor took her in. She was in heat, but she was ill, so Muffin did not chase her away. Another sort of feral tom might have. I know there are many people on this forum who manage colonies and are more knowledgeable about these issues than I am, so hopefully they will respond.

I feel for your situation and the decision you have to make and will say prayers for guidance for you. I am having a difficult situation of my own to sort through regarding my care of semi-ferals where I work, and what my responsibility should be towards their care since no one in their neighborhood wants to step up and be responsible. I recently took one into my home but can't take in any more cats (4 was my indoor limit and now I have 5!), and I also can't transplant any of them to my block because of Muffin. At the end of the day, all we can do is the best we can do. You've already done so much for this cat!  What a wonderful person you are.
 
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Do you think this cat is originally from your neighborhood and has lived outside near your complex, or do you think this cat was owned by someone and dumped on the highway by someone who perhaps doesn't live in your neighborhood? Do you think this cat is an outdoor feral who wandered into the highway, or do you think someone had her inside at one time? This is a hard question to sort through, but has impact on your decision. If the cat has survived a few years living outside in your community, then this is her territory, and she has learned how to survive in it, even with the highways (most cats are smart enough not to attempt to cross a highway, unless they are ill or starving to death). If she was owned by someone and randomly dropped off in your neighborhood, then she may have difficulty learning the ropes of living in an urban area. The positive thing about her remaining near you would be that she would have you nearby to feed her. Are there any farms around where you live where you could advertise her as a barn cat needing a home? Can you print out flyers and post them in Trailer Supply and Agway stores?

The question about whether or not she would adapt to a new environment as part of a new cat colony is also hard to answer. Strong, healthy cats can become accepted by a new colony if they can establish their own dominance and can fight if necessary. Young intact males who can fight and young females in heat have the best chances of being accepted. There is also a higher possibility of acceptance if there is an adequate food source so they're not in competition for food.  Neutered cats and cats who are shy or weak are more likely to be driven away. If there is someone who will try to assume responsibility for your cat, then it's possible to find her a space where there aren't a lot of other cats so she won't have territory issues. I can only speak from my experience with outdoor cats and territory issues. Over the years, my un-trappable feral tomcat, Muffin, has brought to my block (his territory) a few female girlfriends to share his food bowl and space. He has also nurtured his offspring and brought them to me and my neighbors to feed (and we trapped, fixed, and adopted almost all of them). However, he will chase off any other intruder cat. He'll tolerate other ferals passing through the block occasionally, but when other cats try to establish residency, he will fight them and chase them off. Last summer the landlord of the renters in the house next to me trapped two black male, intact ferals on his property and dumped them on my block! These cats tried to hang around for a while because of the food source, but they caused problems on my block with their behavior and Muffin drove them away. It was sad for them, but a necessary reality. For the past 14 months, there have not been any other cats on my block, nor has Muffin brought me any other cats, for over a year. A starving stray appeared in my neighbor's yard a few months ago (someone dumped her) and she was completely tame, so my neighbor took her in. She was in heat, but she was ill, so Muffin did not chase her away. Another sort of feral tom might have. I know there are many people on this forum who manage colonies and are more knowledgeable about these issues than I am, so hopefully they will respond.

I feel for your situation and the decision you have to make and will say prayers for guidance for you. I am having a difficult situation of my own to sort through regarding my care of semi-ferals where I work, and what my responsibility should be towards their care since no one in their neighborhood wants to step up and be responsible. I recently took one into my home but can't take in any more cats (4 was my indoor limit and now I have 5!), and I also can't transplant any of them to my block because of Muffin. At the end of the day, all we can do is the best we can do. You've already done so much for this cat!  What a wonderful person you are.
I think this cat has been a stray for a long time and most probably has been born on the streets. Street cats and abandoned cats are a common occurence in the country that I live in. Eventhough this cat does not have the typical look of the native cats of this region due to the amount of un neutered cats that get abandoned (even pedigree cats) she can easily still be a cat that has been born on the streets and has only known the streets as it's home.

We do not have the typical farms and barns that you find in Europe or the USA. Finding a farm or a barn anywhere near me or even finding a farmer that would care enough to take on a street cat is almost impossible.
 
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UPDATE:

I spoke to the clinic today and the nurse on duty confirmed that the cat has been spayed on Sunday.

She is doing well and she is also eating dry food too and plenty of it.

It seems that her jaw and absces are healing nicely to be able to eat dry food.

I feel guilty that I spayed a pregnant cat but what makes it easier is that the doctor made the decision to spay.

They want to keep the cat at the clinic for another week for her to heal.

I will try to get hold of the doctor tomorrow and get more information from him.

The following should have been done so far:

Check for FIV and FELV: All clear

Deflea

Deworm

Check ears for mites and other problems

Cut nails

Spay

Microchip (I chose microchip instead of cutting the ear tip in case we try to find her a home. I was told by a cat rescue society that some people will not adopt a cat with a cut ear tip)

She is still unfriendly and difficult to handle and very vocal which is not so good if I will try to find her a home.

I guess I have one week to decide where to release her ( still very confused about the location) and to call the animal rescue societies in case anyone wants to have a go at taming her. I have invested plenty of money and effort so far and I hope a nice person who understands strays can be found and is willing to foster or adopt.

It breaks my heart everytime I visit this vet and see the many cute and playful kittens sitting in cages waiting for someone to adopt them. It's going to be very hard to find a foster home for an older unfriendly Feral/stray when even the kittens cannot find a loving home.

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I don't have any advice other than what's been said already.

I just wanted to give you a
for caring so much.
 

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Check for FIV and FELV: All clear

Deflea

Deworm

Check ears for mites and other problems

Cut nails

Spay

Microchip (I chose microchip instead of cutting the ear tip in case we try to find her a home. I was told by a cat rescue society that some people will not adopt a cat with a cut ear tip)

OK, well all of this is going to help her a lot. What ever happens, the fact that she has now been spayed and has a clean bill of health will make her life a lot easier and more comfortable.

She is still unfriendly and difficult to handle and very vocal which is not so good if I will try to find her a home.

I guess I have one week to decide where to release her ( still very confused about the location) and to call the animal rescue societies in case anyone wants to have a go at taming her. I have invested plenty of money and effort so far and I hope a nice person who understands strays can be found and is willing to foster or adopt.

It breaks my heart everytime I visit this vet and see the many cute and playful kittens sitting in cages waiting for someone to adopt them. It's going to be very hard to find a foster home for an older unfriendly Feral/stray when even the kittens cannot find a loving home.

I have the same trouble myself. I managed to get all the cute, friendly kittens from the colony I TNR'd adopted, but the older, wilder ones stayed with me. I'm lucky enough to have a big piece of land where they can live safely. I can understand how frustrating it must be to have come this far with her and then have no one to turn to.

I really hope something works out for you and this sweet girl.

 

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Just read all of the updates, excellent news!! Things are going smoothly, she is spayed, and all fixed up, eating well, healing well, just perfect, and without jaw surgery to boot :)

Now is the time to figure what to do with her.

The last place I would put her is back where she was, all this and such a brighter future, and she can become roadkill at any time. It's simply not a good place for her to be.

Besides that, with her being away for a while now, and still has more time before she is ready,  it's not so much her home anymore.

The more you describe the circumstances and areas, and the fisherman, and cats around there, maybe that's where she should go.

One plus is, she is a female rather than a male, so that removes one chance of being run off at least.

If there is plenty of food, that helps alot. Makes all the difference in whether or not she is run off too.

That's the main reason aside from if she were a male that she would not be accepted.

Too bad there are no barn homes around :( 
 

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I am so touched by all you have done for this cat. What a gift he was given when someone with such a good heart found her!
 

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Just seeing this thread for the first time. I completely agree with Catwoman in that returning her back to where you found her at this point would not be my first choice as her chances of survival against so many highways is very unlikely. It is extremely possible and probable that after all she has been through she will bond extremely close with someone. Feral cats once socialized develop a deep kinship with their guardian and can become the most loving cat one will ever, ever have in their lifetime. They are extremely loyal once bonded. I feel this cat deserves this after all she has been through and all I can do is pray that something comes up for her and someone steps up to foster her OR take her in forever. I have always ear tipped the older ferals but do understand that there are some who don't want a cat with a tipped ear. :rolleyes: Sad to say. But even if you do release her and she gets trapped again for a spay, the microchip will tell the TNR vet that she has already been spayed. Please do not be hard on yourself spaying a pregnant kitty. This cat has so much going on with her mouth/jaw that caring for kittens would be extremely tough and even then she may fail due to her condition. As you say, there are SO many kittens in need of homes and that allowing more to be born to a feral cat knowingly is just taking away more homes for other kittens. You DID the right thing. Hard as it is - it must have been done. So please know in your heart that it was the only option. :alright:

It sounds like in your country you will be hard pressed to find any foster network to take her in. I wonder if there is anyway, anyway at all, you could. I can assure you the cat will be quiet in your home and not make a lot of noise to draw attention to your apartment. Most feral cats are extremely quiet and peaceful once inside a home - especially during the acclimation period. Since you say your older cat is so timid as well, then it is possible the two may become very close over time and become friends. I think if you have a cage or a room that you can put this cat into during her recovery and until she is really ready to be released, and you are willing, then I would do that since you have spent so much time, energy, love and effort to get her well. The only other option would be the fisherman's pier area. The other cats may chase her off though being that she would be new and yes, ideally, it would be best if the fisherman could keep her confined for even a short period before releasing her.

Argh. These are such tough situations and dilemma's and I wish I could help more than I am. I will keep praying and hoping for something, a door to open, because you have gone to such an extreme to save this kitty. All of my best to you. You have a very, very good heart and this kitty is so lucky that you found her that night. :vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes:
 
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UPDATE!!!!

I visited the cat today and she is a lot better.

The vet called me and said that she is ready to be collected. Her cage is covered to calm her but I removed the curtain and moved the litter tray away from her. She let out a small howl or yowl or cry (don't know the exact term) but I started speaking to her in a calm voice and I think she recognised my voice. She calmed down and eventhough her ears are low and to the side which tells me that she is scared she let me put my fingers in the cage. Obviously she moved further away from me to the corner of the cage but she was not aggressive. I looked at her jaw and it seemed normal and straight and her teeth looked good and clean.

THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT SHE WAS NEVER PREGNANT IN THE FIRST PLACE.

The DR said that her nipples were still swollen as most probably she had given birth a couple months before.

The latest Xray shows that her jaw has healed nicely and she is eating normally and using her mouth as normal.

What I have done so far:

Check for FIV and FELV: All clear

Removed absces and 1 molar tooth that was either broken or decayed

Deflea

Deworm

Check ears for mites and other problems

Spay

Microchip

Bath

Vaccinated for Rabbies and the 3 in 1 vaccine

I have contacted as many cat rescue societies as I can and I'm waiting for response from all of them except 1 who have already told me that they are full.

I have asked the vet for an extra 24 hours to find her a foster home.

If I don't manage to find a person to foster and help socialise her I will have to release her again on the street like I've mentioned earlier.

IF ANYBODY ON THIS SITE LIVES IN DUBAI OR ANYWHERE IN THE UNITED ARAB EMIRATES AND IS WILLING TO HELP I WILL GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. I WILL CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS CAT LITTER AND FOOD IN THE FUTURE TOO. THIS CAT HAS HAD A LONG AND PAINFUL JOURNEY AND HAS BEEN SAVED FROM SURE DEATH AND IT WOULD BE A SHAME TO RETURN HER TO THE STREETS AGAIN. SHE NEEDS A NAME AND A SAFER HOME/GARDEN/NEIGHBOURHOOD WHERE SHE CAN LIVE COMFORTABLY WITHOUT EVER FEELING SCARED, LONELY OR HUNGRY.

THIS CATS NEEDS US.

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It's good new to hear that she is doing so well. I live in another country, so unfortunately I can't help you in suggesting a home for her.

If you took her into your home for a week or two, you could socialize her--would it then make it easier to find her a home? Is this at all possible? It doesn't sound as though she would make a lot of noise, which was your original concern. Also, now that she is spayed, she will become much calmer. I don't know how it is in your country, by where I live, it's not unusual for veterinary clinics to take in a few homeless cats and allow them to live there. Is that a possibility in any of the clinics in your area? If you release her, I hope you release her outside your building so you can feed her on a regular basis. Leave a bowl of dry food outside so she knows to come back to it. It looks like this story is going to have such a sad ending, but you've done everything you could do.
 

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I don't know what to say besides that I am speechless to your kindness. It's so nice of you to have done this for this cat, and to have cared about her when she needed help the most. It's so wonderful to know there are people like you out there! Thank you!
 

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She looks much better, so glad that she is making a good recovery.

I don't have any connections in your part of the world. (Apart from the one I mentioned in a PM, I guess that didn't work out?) Really hope that something good comes along for this girl. As others have said, the best thing would be to keep her in your apartment while you look for a foster home. Would the vet let you borrow/rent the cage she is in now? She'd only need a little bit of space and wouldn't have to come into contact with your other cats. She be much quieter/calmer once she is away from all the bustle and strange smells of the vet's too.

Vibes for you and this sweet girl. You've done so much for her, you really saved her life.

 

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You are such a hero to this cat!! What dramatic changes you have made for her life!! Awesome person with a true heart of gold.

Wish I could recruit you into my cat rescue group!! 


The latest pic, she has that true feral look :) Ears smashed to the sides and big dilated pupils, poor sweetheart! SO glad she was not prego....


If there is any chance of you acclimating her to your bldg outside, no scratch that, I remember you saying it's a high traffic area.

So what are your options, where the fisherman are? 

Is there some way you can go and visit the area, see if you can maybe find where other homeless cats hang out?

There has to be someplace they have shelter there, if you are not able to spot any, ask around. I wouldn't mention you plan to leave another kitty down there, but say you had some extra cat food or something.

If this is your only solution, then so be it. It's not ideal, mostly due to lack of acclimating her down there so she will stay put.

I just checked to see when this thread was started, so we don't have the issue of her trying to go back where you found her. 3 weeks, 3 days.

After 4 weeks she has forgotten her past home, or lost the scent, however that works, but gives her a much better chance of sticking around where you put her.

This is not a sad ending at all! This is a positive thing you have done, and it's even possible that given a bit of time, you might see her down there as one of the gang someday!!
 

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What you have done is a wonderful thing for this beautiful little cat.  Please keep us in the loop, Banana.  Your own fur babies are so lucky to have you as their mom.  Hope you've posted pics.
 

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IF ANYBODY ON THIS SITE LIVES IN DUBAI OR ANYWHERE IN THE UNITED ARAB EMIRATES AND IS WILLING TO HELP I WILL GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. I WILL CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS CAT LITTER AND FOOD IN THE FUTURE TOO. THIS CAT HAS HAD A LONG AND PAINFUL JOURNEY AND HAS BEEN SAVED FROM SURE DEATH AND IT WOULD BE A SHAME TO RETURN HER TO THE STREETS AGAIN. SHE NEEDS A NAME AND A SAFER HOME/GARDEN/NEIGHBOURHOOD WHERE SHE CAN LIVE COMFORTABLY WITHOUT EVER FEELING SCARED, LONELY OR HUNGRY.

THIS CATS NEEDS US.
I'm so touched by this.  I do hope this girl finds a safe haven.
 
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What you have done is a wonderful thing for this beautiful little cat.  Please keep us in the loop, Banana.  Your own fur babies are so lucky to have you as their mom.  Hope you've posted pics.
thank you so much and for sure I will keep everyone updated with the cat's progress.

p.s: I'm a dad to my own cats not a mom :) Yes surprisingly there are still A Few Good Men left in this world :)

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thank you so much and for sure I will keep everyone updated with the cat's progress.

p.s: I'm a dad to my own cats not a mom :) Yes surprisingly there are still A Few Good Men left in this world :)

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hehe  Indeed there are. 
 

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Sending out loads and loads and loads that you will be successful in finding someone to open up their heart to socialize this beautiful girl. After all of your hard and expensive work to get her well and ALL of those tests, it would be the perfect time to find a safe place for her. Oh how I will hope. :cross: Your a good kitty-daddy with a huge giant kind heart. :heart3: If you return her to where you found her, she will at least know her territory but I fear she will be in serious danger due to the highways you speak of. IF you take her to the Fisherman, still he should confine her because she may try to find her territory, They truly never forget where they came from and want that security. Breaks my heart to no end thinking of their suffering out there. We do what we can, though. Keep us posted. :vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes:
 

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I have a magnet that says "Real Men Love Cats."  Sounds like it describes you!

You deserve kudos, many, many kudos for your work.  I am praying that you are successful in finding her a home.
 
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