Confused over my new Cats Fighting

Hi guys I hope you can help me with this dilemma i am having.

me and the wife recently moved into  our own apartment and got a female cat (4 months doll face Persian female) Cadbury(now 7 months old). she came in and basically adjusted to her new surroundings.

3 Days ago I adopted a male Casper (currently 6 months same doll face Persian) however even though he is younger being a male he is 3 times the size of Cadbury. 

Initial 2 days were fine they would just look at each other from the ends of the house, occasional mawing (wierd scared mewing) and hissing if brought close to each other,  if they got too close to each other they would just hiss and run to the other ends of the house. 

however from yesterday Casper has sort of started hitting Cadbury and she does not even retaliate, she just sits there taking it, and the wife has to break it up, their claws are neatly cut so that they cant harm them selves however I am worried this will escalate. and I dont want the female getting hurt as shes very dear to us  

I have tried providing them with ample amounts of food and water, even giving both of them individual times and even times together for fun and playing. if we spot Casper trying to advance on Cadbury we just Firmly tell him NO! with a firm "HMMMMMMM" sound and he backs off.

they use the litter properly, like i provided 2 litters for them and now they use both. They eat together fine, we hold them in laps and sit close they are fine. but that's only when we are around.

added note my cats are not neutered or spayed, as I intend to get them to breed. 

I live in a third world country so I dont have access to Fileway. 

please help I want the male to stop hitting her and both of them just be friends. 

Separate them, and use this method to re-introduce them.  www.thecatsite.com/a/introducing-cats-to-cats

I see you plan to breed your cats. Please, please re-consider. Breeding cats is very expensive to do ethically. There are too many cats killed every year to just add more to the population.

This is a LOT of change in a short time.  You really needed to wait until they were calm and secure with each other AND the new place before getting another cat.  I would have said at least 6 months.  Cats don't like change, any change, no matter how small as a general rule.  But what's done is done.  You need to reseparate.  and do a slow reintroduction.  2 days is not a long time.  At least a week.  But because you've had problems by throwing them together too soon, I would say 2 weeks at least.  Keep interaction times brief and if any trouble arises, reseparate.  Don't get upset.  Don't get on to any of them for being "bad."   Just try again later.  Treats and toys often help.  It's called positive reinforcement.  But, keep it brief as to not stress them out too much.  Each time you have a relatively good interaction, you can try to keep them together a couple of minutes longer each time. 

Expect slapping, growling and hissing.  As a rule of thumb behaviorists say it takes at the least a month for cats to accept each other.  Sometimes it's less but often more.  The fact that they are young and this is a new apartment and therefore neutral can work in your favor. 

hmm i see.. I dont intend to breed them per say as a breeder or for profit, its like if they do it i Dont mind I will gladly take care of them as well.

however. I do know that 2 days is too short and even 6 months. its that the Male Casper it was either adoption to me or have him put down or worse go to a household who would not be able to love or appreciate him or care for him properly.

Our Female is timid she doesnt fight, and I feel that because of this "intrusion" to her space she is getting stressed, she eats and poops properly, however her energy is diminished and shes not doing the things she used to do with fun any more, mostly she just sulks around... i took her to the vet and she said she has a mild cold. gave medicine and told me shes mad at you for bringing in another cat and is feeling betrayed and threatened. 

the male is frolicking around mostly more like asserting his dominance all over the place. I dont want my female to feel shes being "owned" by the male i want them to be equal and happy

I will try the re introduction method. 

spidermoiz said:

 
hmm i see.. I dont intend to breed them per say as a breeder or for profit, its like if they do it i Dont mind I will gladly take care of them as well.

however. I do know that 2 days is too short and even 6 months. its that the Male Casper it was either adoption to me or have him put down or worse go to a household who would not be able to love or appreciate him or care for him properly.

Our Female is timid she doesnt fight, and I feel that because of this "intrusion" to her space she is getting stressed, she eats and poops properly, however her energy is diminished and shes not doing the things she used to do with fun any more, mostly she just sulks around... i took her to the vet and she said she has a mild cold. gave medicine and told me shes mad at you for bringing in another cat and is feeling betrayed and threatened. 

the male is frolicking around mostly more like asserting his dominance all over the place. I dont want my female to feel shes being "owned" by the male i want them to be equal and happy

I will try the re introduction method. 

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The thing the other poster was trying to get across is that having 2 intact males and only ONE female is asking for trouble.  Intact males need a harem to keep them satisfied and will become vicious because they are competing for the one female.  It is because they will be sexually frustrated.  And the female will take the brunt of it... Trying to satisfy two males will exhaust her and not good for her health.  She will be pregnant constantly if she is not already.  It sounds like breeding behavior to me.  Females can have several litters per year and an average of 4 kittens per litter.  That is a LOT of cats to care for and find good homes for.  It's very expensive and when you weigh the costs of raising that many, you don't make much of a profit from it at all.  In fact, many breeders LOSE money so they have to have actual jobs and careers and do it as a hobby. 

Furthermore, just because a female CAN have several litters a year does NOT mean she should.  Like human women, giving birth is hard on their body and she will need to recuperate and heal.  Most breeders have 1 litter per queen per year.  But with 2 intact males not separated, she will be pregnant constantly and it will quickly affect her health and she won't live long.  You say you love her... But you really need to read up on responsible breeding and furthering the breed, which is what responsible breeders achieve to do.  If you love her, you will have her spayed and your males fixed. 

I cannot stress enough, two intact males in an apartment is asking for trouble.   It is NOT a good idea under any circumstances.  Please reconsider.

I didn't intend to be insulting, @spidermoiz   I made the post in a hurry and see now it was kinda harsh.  The previous poster stated it better than I did.

Do try the reintroduction technique. However, since the cats are not spayed/neutered it's likely they will not live harmoniously with each other. Too much sexual tension.

Do you plan to have them spayed/neutered at any point? They WILL breed as long as they can. You could end up with a lot of cats very quickly.

Also, the male will begin to mark/spray in the house eventually and the longer your female remains intact, the higher her chances for developing pyometria (uterine infection) and mammary cancer.

Firstly congratulations on adopting your two new Persian kittens.   It must be really stressful watching them behave this way, and especially as the little female seems to just sit back and let Casper attack her.  

As others have already suggested, to follow a phased introduction should help, however as they are not neutered I think what has been said about the behaviour not resolving will be correct.  There will always be a sexual tension and strong hierarchy between un-neutered cats, and there is every chance Cadbury will become pregnant from a very young age, and continue to do so until neutered.  If you spay Cadbury and not Casper his territorial behaviour would continue, her status would be very low as a neutered cat, and she would become more and more stressed.   

What others have not yet said, is that Persian cats are known to have a high incidence of a number of serious health issues, and even with careful mating selection and health screening these will appear.  Unless you have two cats who have been screened and you know are cleared of being carriers for certain genetic conditions.    In addition to Polycystic Kidney Disease and Hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, Persian cats also have an increased risk of  Primary Seborrhea, Ringworm infection, and FIP, so living in more crowded, multi-cat households are more risky for Persians than many other breeds of cat.

For the physical and psychological welfare of both of your cats I think you should seriously think about neutering them before they are able to breed together, and enjoy the healthier and less stressed home environment that this would offer.