Whole frozen bunnies

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Hello all.
I'm working on switching my furkids to raw. One of them is doing great with feline pride and the others love wellness canned food.

The question I have is on sourcing bunnies. Whole ground rabbit from haretoday will run me $26-$50 in shipping depending if I order 5-15 lbs. Would I be able to chop up and grind up frozen rabbits for snakes? Is there anything added to them that would be harmful? Is there a better source? I'm in California if that helps.
 

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 It's fine as long as you have no problem skinning and gutting rabbits.  They will have a ton of waste inside so you will lose quite a bit of the weight to that and fur, keep that in mind.  Larger rabbit bones are pretty hard as well if you are looking to grind them yourself.  Otherwise, I've thought about it, I order from rodent pro for my snakes and ferrets on occasion but rabbits take up so much box space it isn't hardly worth it given their cost, shipping cost and effort vs useable meat in the end.  If you can pick up at a show, or maybe catch them on a good sale with the cheaper shipping it might be worth it.  I bought the small size rabbit from them once and while it was a wonderful size, my cat could eat the whole thing, it was only about 1.5 days worth of food for $4 excluding shipping (on sale) now they are double the price. Ground runs me a little under $4/pound now.  I used to have a great cheap source of whole skinned ones but they are not breeding currently.  
 
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We have a bunch of reptile places around that sell live feeder bunnies and we're hoping they carry frozen bunnies. My understanding was we grind the entire rabbit? The sites I've been reading like catinfo.com talk about using whole ground rabbit. Is there a reason you wouldn't use the whole critter on frozen?

Thank you both for responding. I'm trying to source as much as possible before my bf and I order a grinder and get started :-)
 
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Apologies, I reread Hare today"s description and they remove the guts and stomach. I'll look into local options as well.
 

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You could grind it whole, but a lot of cats won't touch it that way. Is there a reason you are sticking to ground rather than feeding chunks? 
 
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They're new to raw diet. I didn't realize that they might not go for it with fur.
 

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My kitty went straight to chunks, I don't think she had any ground food until she was a couple years into being raw fed, I find it messier, too bone heavy or too expensive for my household.  I've had to resort to some now to get rabbit and duck for her but prefer chunks, much better for their jaw and gums as well.  Fur and waste both is a turn off to a lot of cats, if I give my cat a jumbo mouse she'll even pick out the intestines and leave them behind.  I can't even get one of my dogs to eat whole rabbits although my other two aren't so picky.  All you can do is offer and try so if they are new to raw you might want to pick up a variety of grinds in small quantity, see what meats they prefer before stocking up. 
 
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Ah ok. Good to know. I've been mixing commercial raw food into their wet to see if they even go for it and they go love it. I've given them little bits of ground chicken and they vacuum that up too :-) I haven't tried chunks yet. I'm working on getting supplements to make up ground food to hopefully switch them to just homemade food before my supply of commercial food runs out. I'm lucky enough to already have a cast iron hand grinder that can grind darn near anything. The recipe from catinfo.org is the one I'm trying to work off of. Also have "raising cats naturally" coming in the mail and a pile of nutrition research printed up and read (research junkie). I figured I'd start with chicken cause its easier to obtain and go from there. I kept seeing rabbit suggested is why I'm trying for a rabbit source that doesn't cost an arm and a leg. I do however draw the line at buying live feeders, killing them and butchering them myself. I know that sounds silly but I just don't want to go that route.
 

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Are you transitioning the cat that eats felines pride as well? Curious to hear if you are and your thought process there.
 
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Eventually I need everyone eating the same thing for my own personal sanity. He got switched to felines pride quickly cause they were all eating call of the wild dry and he got a urinary blockage and had to be on wet. They were all eating call of the wild dry with some wellness canned. Since I've had to monitor the youngest's potty visits he's been isolated to the bathroom. To get him out with the rest of the kids, I spent the week of his isolation (part was him hospitalized) getting the older 3 on just wet and scheduled feedings. Since they already ate the wellness it wasn't too bad getting they switched. I'm trying to get everyone the same so I don't have to separate the youngest for feedings and felines pride is darn expensive.
 
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