Our daughter's first day of Grade 11 (pic)

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Yeah, I'm NOT on the teachers' side of this one. 

I'm so sorry your daughter and others are going through this.  I can only imagine how let down she feels.
 

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Here's a document showing the salaries of our daughter's teachers (and others). They make a lot - these amounts are for 9 months of work a year.

http://www.bced.gov.bc.ca/accountability/district/sofi/2013/SD61.pdf
Oh wow.  That's more than teachers here make!  And I live in a kind of affluent area.  

I understand that it's not an easy job.  Some of the kids (and the helicopter parents) can be really difficult to deal with.  Do your kids have the standardized testing that we have here in the US?  That's another thing that ticks them off- EVERYTHING they do has to match up with a state standard.  

But if there's financial hardships everywhere, I don't know if I could justify a pay raise.  

Ugh, what a horrible situation.............

Cheryl
 

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That's more for working 9 months, than I make working 12 months as an RN.
As somebody with decades of teaching experience, I can say that 9 months for a teacher can't be compared to 9 months for an RN. There's no such thing as a completely free weekend or mid-term holiday, and most evenings you have prep work, marking, continuing education, etc.. Part of your summer vacation is also spent doing school stuff.
 

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Here's a document showing the salaries of our daughter's teachers (and others). They make a lot - these amounts are for 9 months of work a year.

http://www.bced.gov.bc.ca/accountability/district/sofi/2013/SD61.pdf
This is a list of Teachers with more than 10-15 years experience. Starting teachers make a maximum of $45,000 per year (I barely make this  myself). Those Teachers on that list also most likely have their masters degree which puts them into another pay category. If you think about it, we're educating the future society who go on to become doctors, lawyers, policemen etc... so it's worth it! It's not about the money for ourselves by the way. It's about the amount of money they won't put into the system for support.

$40 per day, per kid is absolutely mind blowing! If they would put that money into the public system, then we wouldn't be on strike! 

Example: If I have 30 students in my class, at $40 per day, that's $1200 per day of funding! If the government has this kind of money, then they can put it back into the system. Some students have to share desks and textbooks because our system can't afford new desks and chairs. 

Example: I teach 15 students (kindergarten), 9 of which are special needs. Of these 9, 4 are violent and dangerous at times. Support you ask? I have 1 adult for a few hours a day to help. What about the other students that aren't special needs? I get to say "hello" to them each morning, and that's about it because "Timmy" is throwing chairs across the room. 

I'm a Teacher, and I'm mad as well! I'd rather be in the classroom, then on the picket lines. Our Union was waiting for the government all summer. Christy Clark was on holidays and flying around the country all summer. The Teachers are flexible and willing to compromise our numbers, but Clark doesn't even want to speak to us, therefore, we're still on the picket lines.

I am truly sorry that you're upset, so are we. It's for the best that teachers and students get back into the classroom asap! Fingers crossed this ends this week :)

Bottom line, Teachers are doing this for the kids. We're broke (no strike pay), we're tired, we're mad, and we want to teach.
 
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As somebody with decades of teaching experience, I can say that 9 months for a teacher can't be compared to 9 months for an RN. There's no such thing as a completely free weekend or mid-term holiday, and most evenings you have prep work, marking, continuing education, etc.. Part of your summer vacation is also spent doing school stuff.
Nurse are forced, yes forced to work double and even triple shifts, and if they refuse they can be fined $10,000 and charged with abandonment and go to chair for 5 years!  When is the last time a teacher was told they had to work until midnight when they had started at 7 am?  Doubt it ever happens!

I don't know a single nurse anywhere that gets 3 months off, 2 of which is in the summer months. So what if a teacher spends a bit of that time preparing for the next year.  I have friends who are teachers and none of them spend more than a few days towards toe end of the summer getting ready for the start of school.  Where I live nurses max out vacation at 5 weeks. In their 20th year as a nurse, they get 6 weeks.  Teachers get 3 months!  Double what nurses get! 

Teachers also don't spend 8 hours on their feet running from room to room with sometimes no time to stop and go pee, have a coffee break or lunch break.  I can't tell you how many times I went home after 8 hours with a bladder so full I thought it was going to burst, because I didn't have time to stop to pee during the day!

Teachers have it easy compared to nurses.

Also, where I live, teachers can have a deferred salary leave. They can opt to take 80% of their salary over 5  years and in their 6th year, take a full year off with full pay!  A friend of mine did that twice, and both years that she was off she travelled the world while still bringing in a pay cheque. Nurses don't have that option either.
 

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Bottom line, Teachers are doing this for the kids. We're broke (no strike pay), we're tired, we're mad, and we want to teach.
So cross the picket line and teach.

Education should be essential services, and they so do what our unions are forced to do.....rotating strikes.  Nurses are still required to report to work, do their job (essentials only), and still spend time walking the picket line.
 

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So cross the picket line and teach.

Education should be essential services, and they so do what our unions are forced to do.....rotating strikes.  Nurses are still required to report to work, do their job (essentials only), and still spend time walking the picket line.
There will be snow completely around the equator before any self-respecting teacher should EVER cross a picket line. I agree with rotating strikes. I do not and will never agree to crossing a picket line. And yes, I dealt with lock-outs and strikes....I worked for International Paper. I walked a picket line and I would never cross one.

My sister is a teacher. Her hours don't end at school. As JCat discussed, there are tests, there are essays, there are homework papers, there are classes to determine what to teach and how to teach them. And these days, it's not just teaching. It's also trying to do the disciplining that a lot of parents refuse to do. It's trying to raise the children in addition to teaching them. And, I might add, she also works during the summer at school. She also takes classes and is working on her doctorate. Teaching is not a 9 to 5 job. Far, far from it. People who think that teaching is easy should have become teachers.

Nor is nursing....I get that. But to advocate that anybody should cross a picket line is deplorable. 
 
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I just had to google this and I can't believe this is still going on. :(
 
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It's only the office workers. It may not affect the bus drivers unless they decide to support the office workers.
 

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Crossing my fingers that the school year starts Monday!  

And UGH on the transit strike...........

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The GOOD news: a tentative agreement has been reached between the government and the teachers' union, it's not done yet, but school might start on Monday.

The BAD news: BC Transit workers are going on strike now. We do not have school buses here, the majority of students take the city buses to and from school.

http://www.timescolonist.com/news/l...rkers-at-victoria-hq-vote-to-strike-1.1376739

UGH UGH UGH 
Acupuncture?  Massage therapy?  I don't get those either.  This sounds a tad ridiculous.  Geez I hope things get straightened out soon.  This is awful for the kids.
 
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There seem to be a lot of strikes in Canada compared to the US. I know in the US it is a big deal when there is a strike, here it seems that's just what you do when you want a raise. 
 
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