Siamese or briman?

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Hello there fellow cat lovers! :)

I'm pretty new to this site, but after surfing the net for almost 3 days now, I've decided I'd stop by and ask this question here...
Two weeks ago I got a cute lill' kitten (6 weeks old at that time, now ~8) and named her Serrafir (Serra as we call her) from my boyfriend. He said the kitty's mom was a birman, however I am uncertain whether that's true or not, after seeing a picture of the mommy :


Also, I would like to add that this little ball of fur of mine's not all that talkative - she only "talks" when she wants to do smth and we don't let her, like grabbing her and putting her in our laps when she'd explore the room. On the other hand she's reeeeaally curious about EVERYTHING. Rofl. Not to mention how headstrong she is! :D Here are a few photos of Serra, hopefully someone will be able to tell me whether she's a siamese or a birman :

And here is her aprox. fur lenght :
 

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Hi,

Birman is likely, though as your friend isn't a breeder your kitty will not bea pure breed.

Don't take this thewrong way, but your kitten was seperated from its mother and siblings way too early. The minimum age for seperating a kitten from its family would be 12 weeks, an ideal age would be between 14 - 16 weeks.

In addition, no kitten should have to grow up alone as cats are social animals that need other cats as company. You should strongly consider finding company for your pretty Serra, perfect would be another female kitten aged 12 weeks. An older kitten could teach your Serra how to behave like a cat and might be able to compensate a little of the socialization she has missed out on due to being seperated from her mum too soon.

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Thank you for your kind reply!

Truth be told, I did bring the neighbour's cat over (he's about 2-3 months old, his father being a russian blue and the mom a common  tabby cat) but she kinda scared the crap out of him whenever he tried to play with her., as she continuously hissed at him and almost wanted to beat him up (I find this both funny and sad at the same time). I'll try to bring him over here again tomorrow or something, as I can't afford to get another cat, although I really wish I could. =[
 
 

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Hi,

you can't expect two cats to get on with each other  within minutes.

It will take a few days for them to get to know each other. Luckily with kittens it is very easy to get them aquainted as kittens just love to play and any other kitten as a playmate soon becomes irresistable.

You do have to watch out that you both neuter your cats in time, though. You should have your cat fixed with ca. 5 months. Otherwise they will mate - and bringing up a litter is expensive, if you want to do it properly and lovingly.. One of the reasons so many kittens are sold at 6-8 weeks ist that they are weaned at 4-5 weeks - and then they really start costing money because they just eat and eat because they have to grow into big kitties 


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Not a Birman.  A Birman has white toes.  Kind of like 80's Michael Jackson gloves without the fingers.  I have a Birman, Paige, and while this kitten seems to have similar bone structure, without the white toes, it will not be classified as a Birman.  Maybe Ragdoll?

Here is Paige so you can see her toes.


 
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Yes, I do know that a "true" birman has to have those cute lill' white gloves, however, since my kitty isn't a pure breed cat, ofcourse there are some "pure" traits she lacks. I highly doubt she is a ragdoll either. That's the reason why I asked whether it's a siamese or a birman, since it's hard for me to tell them apart. And then again, over here, where I live, there aren't so many ragdolls, so, again, I doubt she's a ragdoll. 
Her mom doesn't seem that furry either. I'll just suppose it's a mix of siamese and birman or something. 
 

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Without proof, she would be classified as a colorpoint DMH (Domestic Medium Haired).  Unlike in the dog world, if two different breed of cats mate and produce offspring, they don't create another "Breed".   She doesn't have enough tell tell traits of either Simese or Birman to be classified as either.  There are so many color point breeds out there and even in the domestics.  So that is what she is.  A domesic or moggie, if it makes you feel better it's the most popular and largest breed of cat in the world.  She's a cutie, too!!
 
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Yes, I do know that a "true" birman has to have those cute lill' white gloves, however, since my kitty isn't a pure breed cat, ofcourse there are some "pure" traits she lacks. I highly doubt she is a ragdoll either. That's the reason why I asked whether it's a siamese or a birman, since it's hard for me to tell them apart. And then again, over here, where I live, there aren't so many ragdolls, so, again, I doubt she's a ragdoll. 
Her mom doesn't seem that furry either. I'll just suppose it's a mix of siamese and birman or something. 
Definitely not a Birman as she lacks the white gloves. Birmans also have half-long hair which does not mat over parts of their body, a plumed tail, blue eyes, a short muzzle and the coloring of the Siamese. Without knowing the dad and not having seen the mom who may or may not be a Birman you probably just have a colorpoint mix. If you can see the parents and they both look like this little baby, neither one having white feet, and both having long or medium hair you may have a sealpoint Himalayan or Himalayan mix. Just enjoy the kitten the way it is, it's beautiful..

Not a Ragdoll, they are rather large and sort of flop over when you hold them as if they did not have any bones, thus the name. 
 
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