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post #1 of 24
Thread Starter 
Check out this movie and tell me what you think.
post #2 of 24
WOW it is funny watching that , but so sad seing the truth about the animals . It almost wants me to be a veggitarian (sp).
post #3 of 24
Wow! What an eye opener. I think the part that bothers me most is how the animals are fed antibiotics. You know, 50 or so years ago, people dumped all sorts of junk in rivers, etc. and now we live with the pollution. I have a feeling that this factory farming practice is going to really hurt down the road.
post #4 of 24
Very interesting. I thought it might turn out to be from a vegetarian group, but was pleasently surprised when it led to links for meat from family-owned farms.

Deb, I agree with you 100%. The unregulated use of antibiotics in the meat industry is going to hurt us one day.
post #5 of 24
I'm glad I don't eat meat. The poor little piggies It surprises me what people can get away with. Wouldn't that be considered animal cruelity and shouldn't they shut down the factories becasue of that? I've never heard of "debeaking" before. That is sick sick sick!!!
post #6 of 24
Mootheos!Leo!LMAO!Sob sad but true.Fight The corprate farms!!:chicken:
post #7 of 24
I loved it...
post #8 of 24
As far as the abuse aspect goes, almost all states have "exceptions" to the cruelty laws. Bona fide scientific research, hunting, protection of life and property, veterinary care, generally accepted husbandry practices, and manufacturing/food processing are some of the standard exceptions.
post #9 of 24
Right you are Heidi, just look at the conditions of some of the PMU farms in existence and what they do to the poor mares. It really is sickening.
post #10 of 24
Thread Starter 
The factory farms are just disgusting. To think that pigs have higher intelligence than dogs, but are treated so inhumanely in these factory farms breaks my heart. Family farmers would never treat their animals like this.
post #11 of 24
Thank you for sharing that! We've been trying to locate stores that sell free-ranging products in our area and found some thru this site.

post #12 of 24
I also like that instead of just making a political-type statement that the links provided the stores and restaurant alternatives. This has really made me think. I already think that we over medicate in American society. Now to think that I may be consuming the stuff anyway. It really burns me up. Plus there is more and more evidence that super resistant strains of bacteria are already putting current anibiotics to the test. Then there is the whole economic issue of putting farmers out of business. And finally, the cruelty to the animals. Even food source animals don't deserve this kind of treatment. There just is not one thing I like about this whole thing.
post #13 of 24
I think it's sick and wrong, but of course, intellectually I have a problem with large-scale farming anyway. There are a lot of things I have a problem with, living in a modern, "civilized" (yeah, right) world.

Now that we're making money again we buy only free-range meat (and we drive about an hour and 15 minutes to get to the closest place that sells it, although a local butcher can order it - it's just a lot more expensive that way), and we've been buying only free-range eggs since I can remember. But all of these items are expensive - usually a lot more expensive - and when times are tough, most people, including us, can't afford to demand free-ranging meat.

The problem as I see it, in certain instances, is one of scale. Pig farming I'm not sure of. I do know we'll pay for the massive use of antibiotics some day - likely within our lifetimes. But most countries are net importers of some type of commodity, be it wheat, beef, soy, whatever. We will reach approximatey 12 billion people on earth by 2010 - 2012 (depending upon China) and that should double by around 2020.

Is there physically enough land to feed this many people? Even if we're all vegetarians (highly unlikely!!)? I'll probably have nightmares tonight... makes me think of the movie Soylent Green.
post #14 of 24
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Laurie, I don't have the research on me, but I know that there have been studies done that show space is not a problem. If pigs and other animals are returned to family farms, there will still be plenty to feed the world. The problem is cost-efficiency, it is more cost-effective to brutalize the animals and destroy the planet. If you have ever seen one of the poop-lagoons which hold millions of gallons a pig waste and then seen the results when the lagoon wall breaks flooding the land and creeks and drinking-water wells with all of this fetid waste you would simply cry.

A friend of mine has been a key player in trying to stop factory pig farms in Kentucky. Also, my sister works for the EPA and her husband is a water specialist. The stories these three tell of massive pollution; ruination of lakes, streams, and small rivers; and the poisoning of rural families who drink the toxic water will truly give you nightmares.
post #15 of 24
A friend of mine keeps saying that kids are taller nowadays from growing up on milk laced with bovine growth hormone, and that the young women of today have larger bosoms from the estrogen used to pump up chicken breasts.

Can animal hormones really come to effect humans?
post #16 of 24
Thread Starter 
Originally posted by brocken
Can animal hormones really come to effect humans?
Given that hormone replacements for human menopause treatment are made from horse urine, I suspect that animal hormones can most definately effect our bodies. However, I suspect that bustier women are the result of implants rather than chicken estrogens.
post #17 of 24
Thanks for sharing! I thought it was very creative. It makes you feel sorry for those animals, I had no idea things were like that nowadays; I thought they had gotten better.
post #18 of 24
I'm glad this movie has made it over here - it's been posted on a vegetarian/vegan forum I frequent for a while.

The thing I like most about the movie is that it doesn't push the veg*n agenda. While I am a vegetarian, I don't make it a point to try to convert people. I think it's important people know exactly where their meat is coming from, though. A lot of people aren't aware of the horrors of factory farming. It's beyond disturbing - it's torture. I love that movie is making people aware of what the animals they're choosing to eat have suffered through.

I support organic farmers whenever I can. I'm a lacto-vegetarian, so I still consume some dairy products (only cheese, really) and I *always* buy organic. No exceptions. It's a shame it's not so readily available. Free-range eggs are more available than meat and cheese/milk more so than either.

Buy organic!
post #19 of 24
I am fortunate because where I live and where I shop is a grocery store that only buys from the local small end farmers. I do notice though an upsurge of pricing on meat from even last year.
post #20 of 24
This was present in an informative but humerous way. Thanks so much for sharing. It makes me sad knowing what they do to all these animals! I think this is very cruel.. When I'm older and able to make my own decisions, I'm going to become a vegeterion but right now I can't be making choices like that.
post #21 of 24
Wow, I don't have sound at work, but got the gist of that.

It's true that the big companies are killing the family farm and the communities. We own three small family farms in Nebraska and it's killing my family and we don't have any animals. We just grow stuff (I think sugar beets--what else but a nice hyper drug for the masses too?).

post #22 of 24
LDG, there are other alternatives to land farming to feed people. They've found that we get much more bang for our buck using ocean plants, but the problem is getting everyone adjusted to the taste. Westerners usually don't like sea veggies.
post #23 of 24
wow that was a eye opener, i dont like that big business stuff, poor animals, there should be laws to protect against this kind of crap!! my nephew has been a vegetertion since he was 7 yrs old, he did not want to eat meat and would not, and his dr. said he could get his proteion from other sourses other than meat, he is 22 now and is very healthy, so young people can make this decision on their own i think..
post #24 of 24
My family also owns a pig farm in Sweden. The pigs are all housed in one big building, but they're given huge pens! Bigger than the some I've seen on smaller farms. I loved the little piglets. They let me play with them when I was there.
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