At home euthanasia vs. vet's office

wasabipea · Aug 3, 2014

bonepicker said:
I too am going through this with my little old dog. I have been this route before and you know without doubt when the time comes. God bless you both.

I'm so sorry, so many people losing their furry friends - so sad. I hope you and your little doggie have happy last days together. Thank you :hugs:

bonepicker · Aug 3, 2014

Wasabipea said:
I'm so sorry, so many people losing their furry friends - so sad. I hope you and your little doggie have happy last days together. Thank you

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goholistic · Aug 3, 2014

Wasabipea said:
Thank you, and your understanding and kind thoughts. It is so hard

This makes me think of sometnng that happened when I was a kidlet. Not cat related, but my parents were close to an older couple, Gene and Ruth. They were together for 40+ yrs and still very much in love. One day he kissed her goodbye, left for work and shortly thereafter had a massive heart attack and died. Miles away, probably within moments of her hubby's passing, Ruth has a massive stroke - lingered in a coma for a few days before she died. Neither one ever knew the other had passed. How often does something like that happen?

It's so hard to watch a loved one grieve when there is nothing you can do but love them. I really think she gave up when Len was PTS. Its really heartbreaking.

But thank you. I suppose I'm having a hard time since I'm still in grief too. Such a difficult decision, as you know.

That is an amazing story. It may have seemed, at the time, that neither one ever knew the other had passed. I'm sure both were overjoyed (and surprised!) to bump into each other in a better place....if you believe in such things. If so (or even if you don't!), you can have hope that Roni and Len will be together again.

wasabipea · Aug 4, 2014

GoHolistic said:
That is an amazing story. It may have seemed, at the time, that neither one ever knew the other had passed. I'm sure both were overjoyed (and surprised!) to bump into each other in a better place....if you believe in such things. If so (or even if you don't!), you can have hope that Roni and Len will be together again.

Seriously... even though it's sad that they passed away (for the living) - everyone's gotta go at some point, and if that's the way to do it, you couldn't have asked for better(?) situation... you have to just shake your head and say "wow".

While still sad, it was always a comical vision seeing the two of them bumping into each other at the proverbial pearly gates saying "what the heck are you doing here?". sonfusion folllowed by "yay!" *kiss*

I hope our furry friends find each other as well, happy and healthy and in their prime. I wonder if cats are allowed to hunt mice at the bridge? I guess not.

feralvr · Aug 6, 2014

Wasabipea said:
I'm sorry you are gong thru this too, my thoughts are with you as well. I hope they let us know somehow, I'd hate to think I'm keeping her around for selfish reasons (OK, well maybe they are a little selfish). I should say I'd hate for her to suffer since I'm being selfish. Enjoy your days with your beloved Henry, I trust that you will both know when the time is right. Lots of positive energy to you both
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Thanks again for your kind words, and give old Henry a pet from me

I am a wee bit weepy today. The night's are draining the life out of me and my husband due to Henry's need to get up and walk around and go outside. Henry's days, though, are pretty good so far and he is happy and eating well. So, I always tell myself "Guess today is not the day." I lost Henry's brother (JRT dogs) last July and I know soon my beloved :rbheart:

:heart3: Wilbur will call his brother home. Henry was always, always otherwise healthy then his brother left us and Henry went downhill. I almost think he "waited" to show his illnesses until Wilbur left because Wilbur took SO much of my time and care. Now it is Henry's turn for my love, care and doting. My heart has been filled with such a low due to losing Wilbur and soon Henry. It is hard to have happy days knowing what is looming. :shame: We know they can't live forever nor can we. Death is just a part of life that, well, is the most painfully low and crappy part of it.

I am blessed, though, to have shared my life with two super dogs and I will carry their love forever with me - and share that love. That is what happens with their love. They can't take it with them, so they return to us when they die. We are filled to the brim with this love and in honor of them, we spread it around....... :heart3:

THAT keeps me going.

bonepicker said:
I too am going through this with my little old dog. I have been this route before and you know without doubt when the time comes. God bless you both.

I am very, very sorry to hear this. You, too, know what we are enduring. Keeping you close, bonepicker.... it is not easy. :hugs:

bonepicker · Aug 6, 2014

Feralvr said:
I am a wee bit weepy today. The night's are draining the life out of me and my husband due to Henry's need to get up and walk around and go outside. Henry's days, though, are pretty good so far and he is happy and eating well. So, I always tell myself "Guess today is not the day." I lost Henry's brother (JRT dogs) last July and I know soon my beloved :heart3: Wilbur will call his brother home. Henry was always, always otherwise healthy then his brother left us and Henry went downhill. I almost think he "waited" to show his illnesses until Wilbur left because Wilbur took SO much of my time and care. Now it is Henry's turn for my love, care and doting. My heart has been filled with such a low due to losing Wilbur and soon Henry. It is hard to have happy days knowing what is looming. :shame: We know they can't live forever nor can we. Death is just a part of life that, well, is the most painfully low and crappy part of it. Thank goodness the cats are younger at 4 and 6.

I am blessed, though, to have shared my life with two super dogs and I will carry their love forever with me - and share that love. That is what happens with their love. They can't take it with them, so they return to us when they die. We are filled to the brim with this love and in honor of them, we spread it around....... :heart3: THAT keeps me going.
I am very, very sorry to hear this. You, too, know what we are enduring. Keeping you close, bonepicker.... it is not easy.

I have two old brother dogs. Scooter and Shadow. Scooter had the stroke, Shadow will be close behind I am sure. I also care for my 92 year old dad.

wasabipea · Aug 7, 2014

Feralvr said:
I am a wee bit weepy today. The night's are draining the life out of me and my husband due to Henry's need to get up and walk around and go outside. Henry's days, though, are pretty good so far and he is happy and eating well. So, I always tell myself "Guess today is not the day." I lost Henry's brother (JRT dogs) last July and I know soon my beloved

Wilbur will call his brother home. Henry was always, always otherwise healthy then his brother left us and Henry went downhill. I almost think he "waited" to show his illnesses until Wilbur left because Wilbur took SO much of my time and care. Now it is Henry's turn for my love, care and doting. My heart has been filled with such a low due to losing Wilbur and soon Henry. It is hard to have happy days knowing what is looming.

We know they can't live forever nor can we. Death is just a part of life that, well, is the most painfully low and crappy part of it.

I am blessed, though, to have shared my life with two super dogs and I will carry their love forever with me - and share that love. That is what happens with their love. They can't take it with them, so they return to us when they die. We are filled to the brim with this love and in honor of them, we spread it around.......

THAT keeps me going.
I am very, very sorry to hear this. You, too, know what we are enduring. Keeping you close, bonepicker.... it is not easy.

I'm so sorry you are going thru this, and I understand the weepy days. I was having one the other day. Roni isn't terribly high maintenance with her needs (excpet for fluids), but she has her good and bad days. Her good ones make my heart soar,t he bad ones send me spiraling into sadness. As you know, she and I recently lost her brother in May - her mourning was nowhere near the intensity that I would have expected. I think she is coming out of it, finally, so her symptoms have been better and maybe her will to live is stronger - but the eating is hit or miss, so is her energy level and basic "being". So now that she is mentally feeling better, it shows all around. But I think her days are numbered, as you know, but I've been pulling every trick out of my sleeve to keep her comfy and as happy and healthy as she can be. It's a hard way to live wondering if "this is going to be the day", very emotionally draining. I'm so sorry. And it only makes it worse with pets like Roni - she always bounces back. So I wonder if the bounceback is giong to happen or if this is "it".

For whatever it's worth, I try really hard not to be around her when I'm in a weepy time, I know they pick up on it. But it's a double edged sword because picking her up and petting her makes me feel better. Yes, we love them all we can - maybe some people think too much - but I don't think that way. I think what keeps me going is knowing that when she passes, there will be rescues by me - at least two if not three. Someone once told me that the greatest tribute you can pay to a beloved pet that passes is to rescue another in their honor (when mentally ready of course).

Thinking of you both at this heartbreaking time, knowing you are doing the best you can foy your beloved doggies. Watching them age is so difficult. Bonepicker and Feralvr,

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for both you and your families and your doggies.

bonepicker · Aug 7, 2014

Wasabipea said:
I'm so sorry you are going thru this, and I understand the weepy days. I was having one the other day. Roni isn't terribly high maintenance with her needs (excpet for fluids), but she has her good and bad days. Her good ones make my heart soar,t he bad ones send me spiraling into sadness. As you know, she and I recently lost her brother in May - her mourning was nowhere near the intensity that I would have expected. I think she is coming out of it, finally, so her symptoms have been better and maybe her will to live is stronger - but the eating is hit or miss, so is her energy level and basic "being". So now that she is mentally feeling better, it shows all around. But I think her days are numbered, as you know, but I've been pulling every trick out of my sleeve to keep her comfy and as happy and healthy as she can be. It's a hard way to live wondering if "this is going to be the day", very emotionally draining. I'm so sorry. And it only makes it worse with pets like Roni - she always bounces back. So I wonder if the bounceback is giong to happen or if this is "it".

For whatever it's worth, I try really hard not to be around her when I'm in a weepy time, I know they pick up on it. But it's a double edged sword because picking her up and petting her makes me feel better. Yes, we love them all we can - maybe some people think too much - but I don't think that way. I think what keeps me going is knowing that when she passes, there will be rescues by me - at least two if not three. Someone once told me that the greatest tribute you can pay to a beloved pet that passes is to rescue another in their honor (when mentally ready of course).

Thinking of you both at this heartbreaking time, knowing you are doing the best you can foy your beloved doggies. Watching them age is so difficult. Bonepicker and Feralvr, and

for both you and your families and your doggies.

Post a picture of Wilbur and Henry

feralvr · Aug 7, 2014

bonepicker said:
Post a picture of Wilbur and Henry

Here is Wilbur's bridge thread. It was just recently his one year death anniversary.

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http://www.thecatsite.com/t/263218/for-wilbur-a-heavenly-gift

I am out of town and don't have much time to post right now but will check in as soon as I can. Thank you both and keeping you on prayer.

P. S. Henry was at the vet today for xray. Heart is more enlarged and more fluid in lungs. Time is precious right now. Every minute and moment.

wasabipea · Aug 8, 2014

That is an amazing story on so many levels - kismet to the nth degree.

It gave me chills, tears and hope. I'm so sorry to hear that Henry is declining, I have no doubts that he will frolick with Wilbur again and let you know when it's time to go. You seem to have an amazing brood of furry loved ones that are a little family of themselves, within your big loving family.

So sweet and touching. Thank you for sharing. With all my heart I wish you very happy final days with Henry - he looks like a doll. I love the portraits of them together, they even have the same expression!

Go give that pup tons of kisses and know that you are loving him and you'll know when it's time, just as you did with Wilbur. Treasure those moments together. Oh heck, here's another one :

bonepicker · Aug 8, 2014

Feralvr said:
Here is Wilbur's bridge thread. It was just recently his one year death anniversary. .
http://www.thecatsite.com/t/263218/for-wilbur-a-heavenly-gift

I am out of town and don't have much time to post right now but will check in as soon as I can. Thank you both and keeping you on prayer.

P. S. Henry was at the vet today for xray. Heart is more enlarged and more fluid in lungs. Time is precious right now. Every minute and moment.

What a wonderful tribute to Wilbur, you shoild write a children's book. You write so well! God bless you and Henry now!

feralvr · Aug 8, 2014

Wasabipea said:
That is an amazing story on so many levels - kismet to the nth degree.

It gave me chills, tears and hope. I'm so sorry to hear that Henry is declining, I have no doubts that he will frolick with Wilbur again and let you know when it's time to go. You seem to have an amazing brood of furry loved ones that are a little family of themselves, within your big loving family.

So sweet and touching. Thank you for sharing. With all my heart I wish you very happy final days with Henry - he looks like a doll. I love the portraits of them together, they even have the same expression!

Go give that pup tons of kisses and know that you are loving him and you'll know when it's time, just as you did with Wilbur. Treasure those moments together. Oh heck, here's another one :

catsallaround · Aug 8, 2014

I would buy the entire series for our child and anyone I knew with kids!

bonepicker · Aug 8, 2014

Feralvr said:
Oh THANK YOU. :touch: :heart3: I appreciate your words and kind thoughts very much. They truly were special brother's together. Henry was a blessing bestowed upon us years back when Wilbur had the cancer. Wilbur's whole life was filled with those really special magical happenings. He was our angel and I miss him everyday.
:lol3: Aw thank you too. Honestly, I have considered writing a book about Wilbur. Even children's books. I get as far as titles and can't even decide on one. I think it would take me forever and beyond to ever finish it. When Wilbur was alive and well, I wanted to write a children's book series called "Wilbur's day at the park" "Wilbur's day at the vet" "Wilbur's day at the barn" ..... at the ice cream store (which he loved), at Grandma and Grandpa's, etc. etc. etc. I had dreams of us sitting at a signing together. He was THE cutest dog ever and all kids ran to see him wherever we went. He was very, very gentle and loving with children. MAN - I am getting all teary eyed now................ I sure loved that boy.
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MEGA MEGA VIBES and HUGS to both of you. To Roni. :rub: To Shadow and to Scooter. I am away all next week on vacation but will try to check in here when I can. ALL MY BEST! :rub:

wasabipea · Aug 9, 2014

Feralvr said:
Oh THANK YOU. :touch: :heart3: I appreciate your words and kind thoughts very much. They truly were special brother's together. Henry was a blessing bestowed upon us years back when Wilbur had the cancer. Wilbur's whole life was filled with those really special magical happenings. He was our angel and I miss him everyday.
:lol3: Aw thank you too. Honestly, I have considered writing a book about Wilbur. Even children's books. I get as far as titles and can't even decide on one. I think it would take me forever and beyond to ever finish it. When Wilbur was alive and well, I wanted to write a children's book series called "Wilbur's day at the park" "Wilbur's day at the vet" "Wilbur's day at the barn" ..... at the ice cream store (which he loved), at Grandma and Grandpa's, etc. etc. etc. I had dreams of us sitting at a signing together. He was THE cutest dog ever and all kids ran to see him wherever we went. He was very, very gentle and loving with children. MAN - I am getting all teary eyed now................ I sure loved that boy.

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MEGA MEGA VIBES and HUGS to both of you. To Roni. :rub: To Shadow and to Scooter. I am away all next week on vacation but will try to check in here when I can. ALL MY BEST! vibes: :rub:

Aw... "the Wilbur series" - what a cute idea! It's never too late, I'm sure your memories are still as fresh as the day they transpired. Every once in a while, an animal finds us, and the bond is beyond description. You are lucky to have had that with Wilbur. While i can say that Len was quite possibly my favorite cat because his temperament and sweet nature and obedience were indescribable... Roni and I have a bond that makes my heart hurt just thinking about it.

Bonepicker, my best :vibes:

for Scooter, at least you know Shadow is waiting for him.

I'm sending my best and most positive thoughts for Henry and Scooter.

feralvr · Aug 19, 2014

Wasabipea said:
Aw... "the Wilbur series" - what a cute idea! It's never too late, I'm sure your memories are still as fresh as the day they transpired. Every once in a while, an animal finds us, and the bond is beyond description. You are lucky to have had that with Wilbur. While i can say that Len was quite possibly my favorite cat because his temperament and sweet nature and obedience were indescribable... Roni and I have a bond that makes my heart hurt just thinking about it.

Bonepicker, my best for Scooter, at least you know Shadow is waiting for him.

I'm sending my best and most positive thoughts for Henry and Scooter.

For sure, the memories and sequence of special events in Wilbur's life will never leave my mind, nor my heart. :heart3: I think they all are special to us, but for some, they touch our hearts more deeply, strongly and grab hold like none other. That was Wilbur. :heart2: Henry is pretty darn special too and plugging along. Had a rough week away from home, though. I don't think we can take a trip like that again with him. He has been sleeping for days catching up on much needed rest. Still having happy moments too begging for those cookies and he still has a great, great appetite. So we will forge on day by day as long as he is willing.

MEGA MEGA VIBES for Roni.... :rub: :vibes:

And big hugs to you, Wasabipea... :hugs:

:grphug: :grphug2: :hugs:

Bonepicker - darling, beautiful boys Scooter and Shadow. I am so sorry about Scooter's stroke. :sniffle:

Thanks for the picture and will keep the vibes coming :vibes:

(adding in vibes for your dad too and all that you are doing for him. :hugs:

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feralvr · Aug 19, 2014

catsallaround said:
I would buy the entire series for our child and anyone I knew with kids!

:lol3: You are too kind and Wilbur ( :rbheart:

) and I thank you. He certainly was a darling dog, so very cute, and attracted attention everywhere we went.

wasabipea · Aug 22, 2014

SO!

I haven't updated in a while, but some may know that I was questioning my old vet's advice of Roni's High White Blood Cell count = cancer = "I'm ready to put her down when you are". Granted, she is 18 and is in decline, I'm sure a lot is age related and unconfirmed-sickness related.

Anyway, we went to a new vet and he was (at my current assessment) excellent. He gave her a full work up as if she were 5 years old, did not disregard her over her age and treated her as if she were his only patient. He aspirated urine from her bladder to run cultures on it and lo and behold - there was eColi present. The cultures have been completed and prescribed her an antibiotic, I forget the name, but one that is specific for that type of infection - and she will be on a tiny dose daily for 6 weeks. I would be over the moon if her white cell count went back to normal. When previous vet gave the cancer diagnosis, Roni doesn't look like a cancer kitty (I've been thru that and know what it looks like, he didn't think so either), I asked if there was anything else it could be - and the only other suggestion she had was ringworm but it was so far down on her radar that she wasn't even considering it. And there it ended, no other suggestions for treatments or tests.

I'm cautiously hopeful that this may help, and she can be back on the road to better health soon. All in all, she has been faring very well - but weeks / a couple months ago she looked like she could die at any time. As I've stated SO many times, I really think a lot of it was grief manifesting itself as ailments and the lost look in her eyes was just because she felt lost.

So... wish us luck on this new treatment that my previous vet never even considered, she didn't even suggest a peek at her urine in any test form.

I'm so glad we went to se another Dr, he is really nice too, and if he solves the elusive climbing white cell count mystery - as far as I am concerned he is SuperVet. Maybe she'll pull thru.

Please?

pinkdagger · Aug 22, 2014

How great it is to hear that you've found a vet with a more optimistic approach, and the will to work with you and Roni!

I recently started following a blog that was unbeknownst to me a mobile vet clinic, and ironically one that operates locally to me. They posted this a few weeks back and I immediately thought of your earlier frustrations with the at-home vs in-clinic decisions: http://atwork.avma.org/2014/08/02/veterinary-mobility-act-becomes-law/

abby2932 · Aug 22, 2014

How did Roni like the new vet? I know you mentioned that she would get a little depressed for a day or so after visiting the old one.

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