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post #31 of 37
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Good bye Hissy. You are right about one thing. If this cat lives or dies is my responsibility. If I take this cat to a vet and he dies, like yours did, it is my responsibility also.

I must make a judgment call here on what is best for the cat and that call is just what I am doing.

As for my priorities being askew just look at yourself. You used $2000 in a heroic attempt to preserve the life of one cat who might have had a peaceful and comfortable death. How many cats could be spayed or neutered for that money? How many cats could be fed? You did what you did not because you are some kind of hero but because you lacked the courage to make the tough, correct decision.
post #32 of 37
Now you are making assumptions. At the time, I had a lot of cats, that $2,000.00 bill was an accumulation of vet costs (I also have horses) My point was our vet bill was out of control and I still took an injured cat that I knew we couldn't afford to help to the vet to give her a chance at life. I do not do chemo on my cats, nor blood transfusions, if they are suffering, they are put to sleep before the suffering becomes immense for them. But if there is a glimmer of hope, a chance that one of these abused or abandoned ferals can be saved, I will take it. Don't assume that you know me, that I think I am anything other than what I am. I have been rescuing abused cats for over 12 years and I have seen suffering like you wouldn't believe. I give these cats a chance at life otherwise they would be dead. I live with my husband neither of us have full-time steady jobs and I do what I can. That's all I do and nothing more. If I have a young cat appear and she is pregnant, I do not get all gaga over the prospect of having kittens, I take her in and get her spayed because i know the reality of it is, that the kittens are likely to die anyway.

You came on this board looking for help and you did not listen to sound advice coming at you from anyone. You had already chosen your path and Blackjack's. I really pray you are not going to get valium and medicate this poor cat and perform a procedure you know nothing about. For your cat's sake I pray you are smarter than that.
post #33 of 37
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Greetings Hissy;

The problem here is that because you and Cat-Tech gave advice then by definition that advice is sound. Why is it sound? Why, because you said it. And this is what you have doing for twelve years.

But is it really the best thing you could have done with all that time and money? How many cats did you save? Can you count them?

Let me give you and the other ladies a hint here. The problem is that there are too many people practicing veterinary medicine. Fully one half of all vets graduate in the bottom half of their classes. Seventy-five per cent are in the bottom three/fourths of their classes. In practice this means that the odds are severely against you in finding a good vet.

The numbers of practicing vets should be limitied by law. Only the best should be allowed to be in business. Bars and nightclubs are limited by law somewhat in this way.

So if you really want to fight for cats, fight for this.

Another possibility is setting up some kind of network to identify the really competent vets and publishing that information somewhere.

If you want to spend time money to help cats, spend it on that.
post #34 of 37
To clear one thing up about putting kitty under anesthesia to check for obstruction. Since the vet suspected asthma, and given the account of presenting symptoms, anesthesia would be the last thing this vet wanted to do. You see, anesthesia (ISO anyway) requires that an esophageal tube be placed into the esophagus, and had there been an obstruction, the very act of intubating could have been disastrous. Also, if asthma was the true concern, anesthesia could have sent kitty into a depressed cardiac state or worse, cardiac arrest.

You have a personal gripe against the vet who treated your cat, and you have a personal gripe about the veterinary community as a whole. I don't care how many years you worked in a medicine community, you cannot compare that to veterinary medicine. Show me a vet who is driving around in an expensive mercedes, and I will sell you the brooklyn bridge.

As for a network for competent vets, for future reference, you can start with any AAHA-accredited veterinary hospital, these clinics undergo a rigourous standard for accredidation. On the otherhand, like human physicians, vets are not gods who can perform miracles, and one cannot expect them to be perfect. That's a fact of life in anything.

As for dollar amount on what people spend on their pets, no one has the right to question another pet owner on their choices. Until you understand that pets are a family member to many owners, you will never understand how far and how willing pet owners are willing to spend the money for a treasured pet.

It's clear you are placing a monetary value on Blackjack. That's your choice, but to come here and ask for help and spew out negatives and personal insults in return is inappropriate, and is it truly helping Blackjack? No. Enough said...................Traci
post #35 of 37
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Greeting Cat-Tech:

You continually try to be insulting by suggesting that my only concern is the money.

Then you try to mask this vet's incompentence with technical gibberish. The cat could have been sedated through some other method enough to examine his throat. The Merck Manual specifically mentions this. I looked this up on my own in a few hours, this vet has been practicing how many years?

The reason you don't see vets in Mercedes is that there are too many of them. There are too many for the market.

As for your professional associations. They exist only because the vets kick in dues to represent the monetary interests of the vets themselves. You see see also in the AMA and in other professions such as lawyers and real estate agents. In fact all professional association are in reality only a breed of union specifically organized to fix prices and to propaganize their image.

Another thing about vets. Many, many of them are vets because they could not make the grade in medical or law schools so they settled on being veterinarians. It at least has more prestige than common laborer.

If you are really concerned about cats then you will learn to ignore professional propaganda and help get the bad vets out of business.
post #36 of 37
FYI, anyone can apply to pre-med human medicine and probably get in and make the grade.

FYI, veterinary pre-med is much more difficult to even get accepted. Once accepted, it is a higher level of medicine in that, one must learn and train with many various species of animals. It is a rigorous 8-year schooling, a specialty requires two or four more years of training/internship and it is much tougher than human medicine.

But, don't take my word for it. You think vet med is unionized? Please, don't insult our intelligence.
post #37 of 37
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