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post #1 of 37
Thread Starter 
I have a two y.o. male cat that I think might have a foreign object caught in either his airway or voicebox. Probably string, cord or furniture foam. I have taken him to two local vets ($300 plus) but they are not marketing airway clearance right now, only asthma, (larger profit margin). I need to find some way to look down his throat to see if anything is there. He will not allow this of course. He even offered to take off one or more of my fingers if I tried looking again. Would a small amount of valium relax him enough to allow this, I wonder? It might also help his evident anxiety.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
post #2 of 37
Your vet should have put him under anesthesia and scoped him to find the foreign object. Why was this not done? Please do not attempt this on your own, without knowing what you are doing, you could cause irreversible harm.
post #3 of 37
Honestly, If they didn't use anestesia to look into his throat, then I would request that be done. Also, if they think it may be asthma, and they don't find anything in the airway, they should do an x-ray to confirm either.
It is not a good idea to try and diagnose something like this at home.
post #4 of 37
Thread Starter 
I have tried what you suggested. The vets started talking about Asthma even before the examination. Every time I brought up the cat's history of swallowing things it was brushed aside and they returned the conversation to Asthma. Common sense dictates, of course, that they should have examined the airway and esophogus first under anesthesia.There were x-rays taken but far back in the body showing the lungs. They did not take X-rays of the voicebox and base of tongue area. Since this began I have bought and read more cat books and checked online in the Merck Manual. Every authority agrees that the symptoms suggest a linear foreign object lodged at the base of the tongue. As for asthma only three of the twelve symptoms listed in the Merck Manual agree with that diagnosis. But I got the strong impression that these vets were "selling" asthma.

If I could only find a way to allow this cat to let me look at the base of his tongue I could remove it, hopefully.
post #5 of 37
Is there another vet close by? I'd call and explain the situation and see if they would see you. You pay good money and you should not be pushed around by a vet who might have made a misdiagnosis. You might also consider calling an animal hospital if your cat is suffering.

My cat Mabel is a "hoover". She considers anything on the floor a treat if she finds it before I do
post #6 of 37
Thread Starter 
I don't want to sound venal here but everytime I see another veterinarian it costs another $150 to $300 dollars. I simply can't keep this up. I have other cats too. I am going to have to do this on my own or else allow the animal to die. These veterinarians here do not care about the animals. They are only interested in generating revenue. So, actually, spending more money will only make the situation worse. Doe's anyone know anything about valium in cats? I have some. Would this sedate the cat enough for me inspect its throat?
What dosage for a ten pound cat? Soon now, I am going to try this anyway.
post #7 of 37
Boy, do I know about vet bills! I took Mabel to the vet 3 weeks ago, and paid $500 to find out she had gas

I don't know what else to tell you, honestly, I think if she had something, like a string in her throat, she'd have puked it up by now. (I know my cat would have... )
post #8 of 37
Thread Starter 
Thanks for your imput. Actually, I was thinking of giving him ipacac to make him vomit. My thinking here is that if it is in the esophagus and if it is a string it might turn around and I can pull it out. If it is in the airway it would have no effect of course. What is stopping me is that the Merch Manual says that if it is a sharp object rather that a string or cord, there is the possibility of it really jamming in there or puncturing the stomach wall or something. Soon it won't make any difference anyway, but I want to wait until the last second.
post #9 of 37
DO NOT use valium for this cat and DO NOT induce vomiting of any sort! To do so could cause your cat to aspirate or further lodge the obstruction, cause perforation in the mouth, esophagus, etc., if there is one.

Get your cat back to the vet immediately and demand a thoracic view on x-rays, this can be done one of two ways...your kitty can be positioned to get both the esophagus and upper airway (thoracic regions) on one film (8x10)....and if the vet needs an additional x-ray, he can do a split-view, which means he can do a thoracic position of both sides of the thoracic cavity, using one 11x14 film.

If he refuses to accomdate your request, you owe it to your kitty to get him to another ER vet immediately. IF there is an obstruction lodged in his airway, or foreign object under the tongue/palate, etc, it should be visible upon x-rays or palpation on exam. Asthma can pretty much be visualized and diagnosed upon x-ray, history of the kitty, presenting signs and symptoms.

Please, do NOT ever attempt to find a foreign object/obstruction on your own, and NEVER induce vomiting when you suspect an obstruction! Should this be a string and you pull, you could perforate vital tissues and cause a host of problems (including inducing blood and infection), and you don't know where the other end of the string is wrapped up at.

Please use common sense and get your kitty back to your vet or a new ER vet altogether. The costs are worth it to ensure your kitty is not in danger, or may require intervention and treatment....................Traci
post #10 of 37
I do understand how you feel... your cat is suffering and there is nothing you can do and you feel that nobody else will help you. Take your cat to the vet and demand that they do something, do not let them put you off, and don't worry about the cost. Your mind being at ease with this is worth the money and frustration. I'm sure that they will work something out with you, and even though financially things might be tight, you will have your cat with you when the bills are paid off. Don't take drastic measures that might only further harm your cat and stress you out. Call an animal hospital and sleep better tonight.
post #11 of 37
I agree with Traci, please do not attempt to solve this problem on your own. As I said to you in PM go back to the vet and tell them the first visit was a waste of your money and they need to make this right again. Please don't try and remove anything foreign from your cat, don't drug or otherwise stress this cat out anymore than he already is. I am sorry this happened, and I do know about high vet bills, I battle them all the time, but taking matters into your own hands will spell disaster. I know you live in a place known for gambling, but don't gamble on your pet's life. It won't be a winning bet.
post #12 of 37
Thread Starter 
You sound competent. Would plastic or material like plastic show up on these x-rays? The reason I ask is that this cat has swallowed large chunks of clear plastic wrap before ( ten inches square as a matter of fact) and it passed out through his anus. No kidding. I take your point though about string or cord wrapping itself around something in there. I promise, no inducement of vomiting.

I am too tired to think straight right now about going back to the last vet. I can foresee difficulties in coming back now and specifically asking for certain types of X-rays, especially in the technical terms you are using.

And there is still the money aspect. This will cost several hundred dollars at least and there are other cats to consider, not to mention the mortgage.

But, thanks very much for your help.
post #13 of 37
Thread Starter 
Thanks Hissy:

You are in the right of it. This cat has been stressed enough already. So much so that it has affected the other two animals. Further, it has always been my policy to segregate the cat who has been to the vet last for three days. So Blackjack is now alone in the garage, thinking he is being punished no doubt. (When I was very young our family had dogs, when one of these dogs returned from the vet it brought home some disease that killed them all.) By the bye, I don't gamble at all, even though I live here in Las Vegas. You don't live in Las Vegas long if you gamble. And there is so much to do here besides gambling -- best kept secret in the world.

Thanks again.
post #14 of 37
I have good friends that live in Vegas, and Henderson- so I know all about the good stuff to do there. Just trying to drive home a point that gambling in this area of your cat's life, isn't a good thing. I also would not separate the cat from you, is it possible you can just bring him in the bedroom, after all he has been through, he needs comfort and human contact, not necessarily a dark garage.
post #15 of 37
Originally posted by bdentler
[b]You sound competent. Would plastic or material like plastic show up on these x-rays?
It depends on the type, if it is lodged, an x-ray may show an abnormally sized esophagus or inflammation. Hard plastics may show up as an opacity, it just depends on the size of the object and the type of material. All metals will show on an x-ray, but certain strings, cords, etc will not, unless there is accompanied inflammation.

[QUOTE}I am too tired to think straight right now about going back to the last vet. I can foresee difficulties in coming back now and specifically asking for certain types of X-rays, especially in the technical terms you are using.[/quote]

I understand that. However, based only on your posts, I have to ask....what were kitty's symptoms that prompted you to get him to the vet? Was he breathing as if gasping for air, or choking? Was he pawing at his mouth or face? If you can answer yes to that, then an obstruction is a potential. However, if wheezing, labored breathing, or raspy breathing was present, the two vets could be correct in suspecting asthma.

As for the exam, we don't know how they examined your kitty. If you're not familiar with how exams go, sometimes an owner can miss the obvious. Vets and techs can examine a kitty so fast and palpate areas you don't realize or actually see them doing it. A quick esophageal exam can be done with a couple motions of the fingers and hand, and if no direct reaction was made by your kitty during the exam, this could be one reason they suspected asthma rather than an obstruction. I would think however, that the first x-ray should have included the esophagus on film, rather than just the thoracic region (chest areas).

[QUOTE}And there is still the money aspect. This will cost several hundred dollars at least and there are other cats to consider, not to mention the mortgage.{/QUOTE}

I would think another vet would charge less. You must understand that emergency vets charge more because they provide a specialized service, it is a costly operation, trust me. They aren't in it for the money, they are into it to save lives. I won't attempt to get into cost operations here, but please understand it is a business like any other, it is simply specialized with state-of-the-art equipment and other high-priced services. If we didn't have emergency services available for our pets, so many would suffer needlessly. When you look at in it terms of helping a defenseless pet needing help and veterinary intervention, the costs are easier to bear. Your kitty is depending on you to to right by him. Most vets will arrange for special payment arrangements if you can at least leave a sizeable downpayment/deposit and work out the rest on a payment schedule that is acceptable to both of you (for example, post dated checks).

Again, we don't know for certain what the true problem is, what the presenting symptoms were, so please, do not take risks here, get your kitty to another ER vet immediately. Even if there is no obstruction found, there were obviously some alarming symptoms that prompted you to get him seen initially. If asthma is the diagnosis, you will thank yourself for getting him seen immediately....asthma is not a condition one can play waiting games with, it is a serious condition that can worsen instantly, and during an acute crisis, demands immediate emergency veterinary attention. Best to always play it safe, you will have peace of mind for doing so, and your kitty deserves that.

Lastly, please don't keep him in the garage, keep him indoors close to you so that you can observe and monitor him for any other signs. Ideally, get him to another ER vet ASAP.....................Traci
post #16 of 37
Thread Starter 
Well if nothing else I can see my communications skills are not up to snuff. First I imagine that you imagine "the garage" to be a dark, cold, grease covered, dirt-floored pit littered with rusty engines and such. Actually is is heated, lighted and clean as a whistle. Much of the time the cats stay there of their own accord. Normally they can come and go as they wish. There is fresh water and covered cat beds. I am keeping Black Jack there first to protect the other animals but also because he and Moe are sparring partners and I don't want Moe jumping on him right now.

Now why do I think these vets were too precipitous in their diagnosies? First they both studiosly ignored my description of this animals' tendency to gulp down things. Then of course, as you mentioned, there was no X-ray done on the esophagus area. There was also the fact that they started talking up Asthma ever before the exam and there was this attitude of "don't try to confuse me with fact, I've made up my mind." My conviction is even stronger now that I done more research on this. For instance, according to the printed authorities, bronchial asthma symptoms would include prolonged expiration (not present here), Cyanosis possibly (not present here),x-ray evidence of trapped air in alvioli (not present), open mouthed breathing (not present), coughing (not present), x-ray evidence of trapped air in stomach and intestines (no x-ray done), bronchi, trachia, and pulmonary vessels abnormally prominate on x-ray ( they did not seem to me to be, but of course I am not an x-ray tech. By the way when I asked to take the x-rays with me the last vet became very defensive and angry and refused to let me have them or to take the x-ray charge off the bill if he refused.).

Also neither doctor prescribed a bronchial dilator like Aminophylline or Terbutaline.
post #17 of 37
It doesn't much matter why they did what they did, what matters is your cat. I would seek another vet quickly, even if you have to drive to Henderson or some other area to find someone who will do what needs to be done.
post #18 of 37
Thread Starter 
I understand that women see things differently from men so let me assure you that my first concern is for the cat. Each time this cat goes to vet's office he will be exposed to unknown pathogins and he will suffer anxiety. This is wearing on the cat and a compromise to his immune system. And as you can see I have already been to two vets and they are both incompetent. Simply spending more money on a vet might allow my conscience some relief but it would not necessarily be best for the cat.

Let me add at this point he seems a tad better this morning. He lapped up a little tuna water and he urinated. He is not as anxious either. His respiration rate is slower but still too fast. he does not seem to be in any pain.
post #19 of 37
First, let's leave the emotional differences between men and women out of this....this is a cat health forum and we are concerned with first and foremost, your cat.

Again, I ask you what the presenting signs and symptoms were that alerted you to take kitty to the vet. While you read up on the net to research asthma, there is more to an investigation and x-rays to properly diagnose the condition. Prior history, presenting signs/symptoms, a possible aspirate taken or ruling out other upper/lower respiratory infections, ruling out fungals, allergies, etc must be taken into consideration. Yes, diagnostics become extensive, yes, they can be expensive, especially during emergency hours. But, the client always has the option of declining more advanced diagnostics during this investigative stage.

We weren't there so we don't know exactly why the two vets suspected asthma, and I assume they were competent with the exam to rule out a potential obstruction. I'm sure they didn't totally dismiss the idea of an obstruction when you told them of kitty's tendencies, just because they didn't say as much doesn't mean they didn't rule it out. Vets run a million different things in their head every second to reach a diagnosis/conclusion, and most don't talk out loud with those thoughts. Emergency medicine is a fast-paced environment and the client is not always told what is going through the vet's mind as he is trying to conclude a diagnosis.

As for the x-rays, they are the property of the clinic, they need to remain in the patient's chart for future reference. Rarely do vets give an x-ray to a client, most often they only do so as a means to get a second opinion, or another consult with another vet. Had you requested referral to another clinic, they would have faxed records or hand-delivered the x-ray to the new vet for review (a tech or other staff member can be a courier).

As for not prescribing medications for asthma, we don't know if that diagnosis was concluded based on physical evidence. I suspect you and they had some miscommunication and I suspect you declined whatever they offered. If you can tell us differently, by all means, please do. What did they actually conclude, or what did they offer you as a means of additional diagnostics to conclude the diagnosis? Did they offer you followup care and support, schedule a recheck? Refer you to your primary vet during normal business hours so he could confirm?

If you want a reasonable plan of action, I strongly suggest calling whichever vet you saw, demanding a recheck on your kitty and getting evidence of an asthma (or whatever else) diagnosis. You paid for a service, you are entitled to get your questions met. If the client doesn't ask questions and settles for a half-baked presumption, then the client is partially to blame. You have to speak up for your interests and get your questions addressed and answered. Since today is Friday, I would presume you can see your primary vet and get a second opinion. The other two vets can certainly fax the records for his review. On the offchance you didn't have a primary vet and these two were your first, then the proper thing to do is demand an explaination and take it from there.

Saying they don't care about your cats is not appropriate. They obviously performed the necessary diagnostic approach with an exam, x-ray, etc. Not knowing exactly what they were telling you, it's impossible for anyone to advise you further. Whenever there is any type of breathing distress (as you mention in your last post), this is a red flag that something is amiss. You are completely entitled to request an x-ray of the trachia/larynx/esophagus and to get proof from them that an obstruction is not the cause.....................Traci
post #20 of 37
Don't try to remove this yourself. Don't give the animal human medcine. If it is a string, it could be wraped around the base of his tounge and again around some of his intestines. So you can see what trying to pull it out would do...

Spend the money, it's replaceable.
post #21 of 37
Thread Starter 
Actually Traci the differences between men and women is very much in evidence here. For instance, your post critises me for the lapses of these veternarians.

At the end of your post you mention the crux of the situation. These doctors did not take an x-ray of the throat or esophogus area nor of the lower intestinal area even though told at least a few times about the history of the cat. That fact says it all: These doctors did not make a thorough exam of this animal.

From the beginning and just like you are doing now they fastened on on symptom only and ignored everything else.

Back to the cat: First of all, as I told the receptionist over the phone I did not call the vet on an emergency basis. I simply called in to make an appointment. I told her the cat was sick and described some of the symtoms. She asked me if it was an emergency, I said I did not think so because even though the animal was sickly, he wasn't bleeding or choking or anything like that and had been like that for about four days at that time.

She then told me that if I wanted I could bring the cat right over because they were a little slow just then. I agreed to this. Indeed when I arrived at the clinic there were no cars in parking area and no one in the waiting area.

As to Black Jack: As I said before this cat is a gulper, he gulps his food if it isn't spread out on a big plate. He has swallowed all kinds of stuff before. He once swallowed a ten inch square of platic wrap that exited his anus, I pulled this out myself. He can't be given a big piece of chicken because he will choke himself on it.

On day one he was near me when he started retching as if trying to vomit. I went to get a paper towle to pick up the wad and was suprised when nothing at all came up. Before a yellowish liquid would sometimes come up with the hairball.

That was when I noticed that he was some distress. He was wide eyed and his breathing was abdominal, faster than normal and shallow. There was not and is not now a rasping, railing or wheezing nature to his breathing. So I figured he swallowed something again and was now in a level of panic to rid himself of it.

Since this breathing continued I began watching him very closely. He preferred a sitting or a position on his stomach to all others, his temperature was normal, there was no blood, mucus or anything like that. After a while he calmed down and I started looking around thinking to find whatever is was that he swallowed but did not find anything. Over the next day or two he lost his appetite and his vigor. Occasionally he would go through this retching routine again.

by the fourth day I figured that whatever it was that went down was not coming up or down and so called the vet.

Up to this time he had been a healthy cat, very playful with Moe. He was nuetered by this doctor about seven months ago. All of my cats are indoor types, I do not let them out at all. I don't keep any kind of poisons in the house, no ant killer or anything like that.

As for the office visit itself: I was taken in immediately because there was no one else there. I told the doctor about the history swallowing, retching and so forth and told him of the breathing pattenand that I attributed this to fear. He was weighed and given one x-ray. The doctor brought him back from the x-ray machine. He said he had given the cat lasix and a antibiotic, but I did not see this. He showed me the x-ray and said he could see asthma. About ten minutes has passed by this time. Maybe fifteen.I started to ask but what about the swallowing, the retching. He ignored this and said he had ordered a battery of tests to confirm asthma.

I was shown out to the receptionist area and told the bill came to
$300. I did not like this or the way this was being handled and told her so. I told her that I should have been told before the lasix and the other shots were given. I also that I would not pay for lab tests to "confirm" asthma when I knew the animal had swallowed something.

She asked me if I was going to pay or not. She said they had a right to be paid. After a while I agreedto pay for what they said they had done, i.e., the office visit, the x-ray the and the shots but not for tests to confirm asthma. This came to $162.50.

Almost forgot, I asked about the lasix, what was it for? Oh,that's for the asthma. I said, asthma? I thought why you wanted me to pay for lab tests.

Then I left.
post #22 of 37
Thread Starter 

You did not mention which veterinary clinic you work for.
post #23 of 37
Is he an inside only cat or does he go outside? Is there any heat or swelling on his body that you noticed? How is he today, is he eating and drinking okay? Have you called the vet back and calmy argued your case and asked for a free recheck? Those are just some of the questions that come to mind when I read your latest post.
post #24 of 37
Thread Starter 
Thank you Hissy. He is an inside cat only. He doesn't look sick, his eyes are bright. There are no hot spots or swelling of any kind. There is no evidence of pain. His diet is way off but did a little boiled chicken today and drank some tuna-juice.

He is still breathing from the abdomen, it is shallow and too fast, about 60 breaths per minute. If I pick him up he starts retching.

And no I have not called the doctor and asked for a retest. Because why? Because a certified letter is being prepared for his edification by my lawyer. I belong to a legal plan.

Let's face it here, this doctor committed malpractice and by that practice endangered the health and maybe the life of this animal. I have no interest in coming to terms with such a person. He is supposed to be a professional and with that status comes responsibility.

Also there is the simple fact that I questioned his diagnosis to his face. I do not care that he graduated from some veternary school. He was presented with evidence of a medical nature, he ignored the evidence that did not agree with his presumptions and therby came to an erronious conclusion. He did this because it is his practice to do this. It begs the question: How many animals has he maimed, killed or denied proper treatment to because of this bad habit?
post #25 of 37
I appreciate your elaborating in better detail, it helps.

So let's re-assess.....the vet took one x-ray of the lungs and chest cavity and offered lab/bloodwork but you declined. Perhaps he did not explain in layman's terms to you about seeing asthma while viewing the x-ray with you. If he suspected asthma based on the history you gave, and based on the findings on the x-ray, he probably had good reason to. If the lungs appeared diffuse or had "splotchy" areas or signs of inflammation, he could very well have made an accurate "presumptive" diagnosis of asthma, and wanted to perform additional labs and bloodwork to rule out other potential causes (such as fungal or other respiratory disease). Without further diagnostics, it is truly a presumptive diagnosis at this point. You can't blame him for not being able to conclude the diagnosis without further workup.

But, since you've described in better detail the original presenting symptoms, I would wager a guess on possible stomach or intestinal obstruction rather than airway obstruction (kitty not eating, in crouched/sternal position, vomiting bile). So, you can, and should, request a lower abdominal x-ray to rule out potential obstruction, inflammation or mass. If that x-ray then reveals a possible obstruction, you could then opt for a barium x-ray series to detect the exact location and type of obstruction. Yes, it will be expensive to opt for this, but it is one differential I would suggest, based on your account of the symptoms. If an obstruction is evident, it could be anything from a foreign object ingested to a compacted hairball to inflammatory condition.

You are right, the vet SHOULD have done a full-body x-ray to view all chest areas, and lower abdominal cavity to rule out a source of obstruction. Since he didn't, you still have that option and you still should demand it so that all bases are covered and not left undetected.

Lasix is a diuretic, usually used for pleural effusion (fluid in the chest cavity), or for heart conditions in which fluid builds up and has nowhere to go. The diuretic usually does it's job within minutes to hours to relieve fluid and pressure on adjacent organs, allowing for easier and uncomplicated breathing. He probably prescribed the antibiotic as a prophylactic and supportive measure, it is a common treatment in cases that are yet undiagnosed. If he felt in the least there was a potential lung infection or even fluid, antibiotics would be a proper approach.

I'm not trying or deliberately being condescending in any way. I often have to be a liason between vets and clients so I understand the need for information and deciphering that information to the client. However, again I must strongly encourage you to get agressive with the vet and demand more. If he wanted to perform labwork, ask specifically what labwork, and what he hoped to conclude with it. If he suspects asthma, ask him to go over the x-ray with you again and explain to you HOW he concludes it. Tell him specifically again that you are concerned with an obstruction and need to rule it out specifically, if that requires another x-ray, so be it, it's the only way to rule it out. If you feel he isn't or never was listening to you, then the correct action is to see another vet for a second opinion altogether. Given the current records and one x-ray on hand, half your costs are already applied, you should only have to consider another x-ray, but be prepared if asthma is again suspected with another vet, chances are, there is good reason to explore it further. Vet's don't like taking chances with a presumptive diagnosis, they know it can come back to haunt them if they misdiagnose and treat unaccordingly. For this reason, a second opinion is what I would advise.

FWIW, message boards are not a great form of communication, much gets lost in the translation, not everything is spelled in black and white, and we can only make educated guesses based on the written word. Cases of urgency, such as yours, demand a thorough approach and that's all I'm trying to do, hope you understand.....................Traci
post #26 of 37
Thread Starter 
Let me understand what you are saying. I should go back to the vet and tell him what to do, what to x-ray and what tests to make. I should instruct him on how to hold the stethiscope and which ends go into his ears.

And even though he did not perform a competent exam I am to presume that his presemptive diagnosis of asthma is correct.

Then I should pay him hundreds of dollars for his expertise.

Humor aside, I am now too switching to intestinal obstruction rather than the airway. Not only because of what you mentioned but because I have been collecting his stool and because Petromalt seem to help him. I have been really greasing him up with this stuff. And he ate a little dinner tonight. And for the first time in days he laid on his side and was sleeping.

As a matter of curiosity when viewing the x-ray the doctor mentioned very clearly that there was no fluid in the Plural areas as this would have been indicative of another problem. But I said, "what do the lungs have to do with this?, I think he swallowed one of the pieces of furniture."
post #27 of 37
I've tried to be patient to this point, but since you only want to invoke sarcasm and spend time with drawing up malpractice papers with your attorney, there is nothing more I can do to help you.

I was asked to come here and offer my help to you, I care deeply about your cat and the level of treatment and care he receives. However, my patience has run thin and the only thing further I will say is.....get your kitty to another vet for a second opinion and promptly, please.

You are wasting time...by my accounts, we share the same time zone, on a Friday night, most veterinary clinics are now closed and you now only have emergency services available to you in the event your kitty develops yet another problem. You had a slight idea what the problem was all day long and had every opportunity to get him seen by another vet during normal business hours, but until you do something about it, your KITTY suffers....I see nothing fair about that whatsoever...................Traci
post #28 of 37
Originally posted by hissy
Your vet should have put him under anesthesia and scoped him to find the foreign object. Why was this not done? Please do not attempt this on your own, without knowing what you are doing, you could cause irreversible harm.

I Agree
post #29 of 37
Thread Starter 
Good morning Cat-Tech and Chelle:

Sorry to hear that you are running out Cat-Tech.

Chelle; You and Hissy are exactly correct. What should have been done was the anesthesia and scoping at the very first visit to the vet.

My very strong impression as to why this wasn't done is that the vet felt that would not generate enough cash flow. Consider:if this were done the one single visit would have ended the problem, I would have paid the bill and been gone.

On the other hand a deliberate mis-diagnosis would have me coming back again and again and of course there is all that asthma medicine they could sell me. Much more profit here.

While I know that this sound cynical to you let me share a truth with you. I worked for many years for a medical insurance company. The people I knew were medical people. My second wife is the daughter of a surgeon at G.B.M.C. So I know first hand how disease is marketed here in the U.S.

Let me bring you up to date on Black Jack. Since last night he has eaten two meals (a vast improvement). He has had a normal b.m. he looks much better and even jumped down to the floor and came over to me. He still retches but not as much. I am still giving him Petromalt.
His respiration rate has lessened but still too fast. About 40. The bowle movements suggests to me that the obstruction must be in the higher end of the tract. The "poop" ( a technical term) looks normal.

Thanks for everyone's help on this.
post #30 of 37
My last thought on this. While you were taking your time waxng philosophical and researching with a lawyer about malpractice issues, your cat could have died. While you were typing away on your Internet, your cat could have gone to a competent vet and had help. You are indeed lucky if this cat is past the crisis period and might recover, but as I rescue and I have sat up with many a sick cat, that one day was fine, and the next day was gone, I have to tell you that your priorities for this feline are a bit askrew.

The concern for most of the members here, and Traci in particular will always be the cat. They come to us with a ton of responsibility attached, and although it is wonderful to think that they will never get sick, never get poisoned or hurt, in the real world that just does not happen.

I know all about the gouging of the drug and medical world, but that doesn't stop me when my cats are ill in seeking help. In my area there is little regard for cats by the vet community. I live in a heavy farm area and most of the vets excell in taking care of horses, cows, sheeps, goats and dogs. Cats are not especially prized here. They are looked at as barn cat rated. My own vet has told me that I have taught him more about cats than any one of his patients he has. He tells me that for a layperson, I am the most knowledgable and he calls me to his office because I have the knack of being able to find cat bites that he cannot.

My point is you put your cat at great risk while chasing your disdain for what happened. I hope Blackjack will recover fully- but honestly, if he does not, you are the only one to blame. I have been known to write a hot check for a veterinary procedure then hat in hand I went to the bank and pleaded my case and won. At one time last year, our vet bill was over $2,000.00 and the cat we helped still died! So nothing is a given in life, except that these gentle creatures look to us to do the best we can do when something goes wrong with them. Stick a fork in me, because I am done.
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