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post #151 of 171
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Well she threw up all the meds.. started off with the usual drooling and spitting and before you knew it she was gagging and throwing up.

 

She was fine all day.. eating on her own numerous times and then she takes her meds and instantly vomits everything up. All I attempted to giver her was the steroid and the reglan. I didn't even get to the antibiotic (that tastes worse).

 

She ran off and was hiding after she threw up. I gave her a treat (which she devoured) and told her I was sorry. I just feel aweful doing this to her anymore.

 

I offered her 1/4 of a 3 oz can of wet food and she devoured it. Now 1/2 hour later and she is in the kitchen eating kibble.

 

My husband thinks we she just let her be. Let her keep eating on her own and stop shoving meds and things down her throat making her sick and causing her discomfort. My biggest concern is not being able to get this steroid in her if she is suppose to be weaned off of it. 

 

Maybe it's time to let nature take its course seeing she is eating on her own. We are even debating on the Monday check up visit. It's gotten to the point we can't even afford groceries for ourselves with all these vet bills and meds. We are at our wits end and have tried everything we possibly could.


Edited by nicolefrank117 - 6/6/14 at 7:59pm
post #152 of 171

It sounds like you are at the end of the line with vet care financially.  I certainly understand that I have been there as well.  I don't normally like the shots that stay in the system for a long time but there is a long acting steroid shot.  It's called depo medrol, I don't know if you are in a position to get something like that but I thought I would let you know about it.

post #153 of 171
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It sounds like you are at the end of the line with vet care financially.  I certainly understand that I have been there as well.  I don't normally like the shots that stay in the system for a long time but there is a long acting steroid shot.  It's called depo medrol, I don't know if you are in a position to get something like that but I thought I would let you know about it.

 

Do you know how long it stays in their system? I know the doctor wanted to wean her off of it but I can't even get it down her without her throwing it up or spitting it out. So weaning might not even happen which scares me. I guess the up side is that through all of this she has had vomiting episodes on and off so she probably hasn't had a consistent dosage of the steroid EVERY single day since she was prescribed it but she has still gotten some of it.

 

On the plus side this morning I gave her 1/4 of a 3 oz can of wet food and she almost all of it again. She devoured it actually. She's a messy eater when it comes to wet food. :) She gets it eventually spread all over the plate ha ha. But she ate pretty much all of it. She has since ate some kibble and even has been drinking from their water fountain. I am getting nervous though as I have not seen her BM in the litter box. She did however throw up alot with the tube incident and then threw up all her food with her meds when I tried to give them to her so that could explain why she might not have gone yet. Just watching her as closely as I can. She has not vomited at all since the last time I tried to give her meds so I am letting her have a break from them. She has been laying around the house, purring, eating and acting really good. So once again I am at a loss of what I should do. You are right I am at the end of the financial portion. To the point if she does pass I don't even know how we would pay to have her cremated etc. I have almost maxed out the Care Credit and still have no clue how we are gonna pay it back when the first bill comes.

post #154 of 171
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It sounds like you are at the end of the line with vet care financially.  I certainly understand that I have been there as well.  I don't normally like the shots that stay in the system for a long time but there is a long acting steroid shot.  It's called depo medrol, I don't know if you are in a position to get something like that but I thought I would let you know about it.


I'd give this a try. 

post #155 of 171

It actually stays in the system for several months but the therapeutic level doesn't last that long.  I think how often it is given depends on the condition that it is given for.  For allergies I have seen it usually given monthly, for stomatitis every 2 or 3 months, for rodent ulcers usually ever 2 or 3 weeks.  I would think that a shot that then slowly works it's way out of the system would naturally taper off the steroid.

post #156 of 171
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It actually stays in the system for several months but the therapeutic level doesn't last that long.  I think how often it is given depends on the condition that it is given for.  For allergies I have seen it usually given monthly, for stomatitis every 2 or 3 months, for rodent ulcers usually ever 2 or 3 weeks.  I would think that a shot that then slowly works it's way out of the system would naturally taper off the steroid.

 

Yah I am wondering if the are wanting to keep her on it that long though. Its definitely worth mentioning. I am nervous she hasn't gotten any of the reglan or ursodiol in either. Atleast she is still eating on her own and eating normal amounts.

post #157 of 171
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Yah I am wondering if the are wanting to keep her on it that long though. Its definitely worth mentioning. I am nervous she hasn't gotten any of the reglan or ursodiol in either. Atleast she is still eating on her own and eating normal amounts.


When we give steroids, the adrenal glands decrease production of steroids.  When we stop giving steroids abruptly, the cat can go into Addisonian crisis (potentially lethal).  This is why we taper the meds, to give the adrenals time to adjust and increase production.  I'd MUCH rather go with a heavy steroid shot and figure a way to increase natural production than drop into an Addisonian crisis.  Not trying to scare you, I'm hoping to explain what's going on for yur own understanding.

post #158 of 171
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When we give steroids, the adrenal glands decrease production of steroids.  When we stop giving steroids abruptly, the cat can go into Addisonian crisis (potentially lethal).  This is why we taper the meds, to give the adrenals time to adjust and increase production.  I'd MUCH rather go with a heavy steroid shot and figure a way to increase natural production than drop into an Addisonian crisis.  Not trying to scare you, I'm hoping to explain what's going on for yur own understanding.

 

Yah I was researching all of that last night on the computer. That is why I am so nervous. I have tried to give it to her and she is throwing it up. So I am not sure how much of it she is ingesting into her system. I am hoping the vet will be good to us money wise on Monday so we can actually even do the  2 week check up. I am going to have to let them know and see what they suggest.  

post #159 of 171

Sending many warm vibes!  If she's eating, that sounds like a good sign.

post #160 of 171
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Sending many warm vibes!  If she's eating, that sounds like a good sign.

 

Yah she's been eating a lot and all on her own. She even takes little trips to the kitchen and gets dry kibble out of no where in between the wet can feedings. She also eats her treats and keeps them down as well.

post #161 of 171

When she threw up yesterday, did she get the meds with water again? Or were they whole pills?

post #162 of 171
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When she threw up yesterday, did she get the meds with water again? Or were they whole pills?

 

Meds mixed in that liquid molasses brown gunk, crushed pill and a little bit of water. 

 

Today she hasn't had any meds and she has been doing really good. Has been eating regulary and keeping everything down. Then just a little while ago she thew up a tiny bit of foam and no food. Wondering if it was a hair ball or if her throat is still irritated from the fact she threw up and gagged on that stupid tube the other day :(  The vet said her throat could be sensitive for a little bit because of all that happening. She has eaten since that happened. Actually not that long after it happened. She also had a BM and it was not diarrhea and it was not hard. It was actually the most normal BM I have seen her have in quite some time now. 

post #163 of 171

Is the syrup part of her medicine?  I am wondering if that is what is causing the issues.  I know some cats are difficult to pill but she seems to have an extreme reaction to meds.

post #164 of 171
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Is the syrup part of her medicine?  I am wondering if that is what is causing the issues.  I know some cats are difficult to pill but she seems to have an extreme reaction to meds.

 

It's what they crush and put the pills in so you can syringe it into the mouth to make it easier for them taste wise.... although its definitely not. I actually got some on my finger and didn't realize it and the syrup to me makes no difference because it was very bitter.

 

What happens with the pills is getting her to swallow it before she tastes it. Otherwise like the liquid meds she starts to foam and spit at the mouth. Sometimes not getting any meds into her or her throwing up. I think the taste of any of them is what makes her sick. But what can you really do for that. 

post #165 of 171

I also wonder if the syrup and/or crushed meds may be the problem.  headscratch.gif

 

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What happens with the pills is getting her to swallow it before she tastes it. Otherwise like the liquid meds she starts to foam and spit at the mouth. Sometimes not getting any meds into her or her throwing up. I think the taste of any of them is what makes her sick. But what can you really do for that.

 

Sebastian also foams at the mouth profusely if any meds go in "unmasked." That is why I put everything in empty gel caps and coat with organic coconut oil (or you can use a little butter). As long as he can't taste the meds, he's fine with me pilling him. Is this something you could try with Sabbath?

post #166 of 171
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I also wonder if the syrup and/or crushed meds may be the problem.  headscratch.gif

 

 

Sebastian also foams at the mouth profusely if any meds go in "unmasked." That is why I put everything in empty gel caps and coat with organic coconut oil (or you can use a little butter). As long as he can't taste the meds, he's fine with me pilling him. Is this something you could try with Sabbath?

 

I remember the marin was a large gel cap and it was hard to get into the back of her throat. I remember one time she even bit into the gel cap and it was another pill giving disaster. 

 

I attempted her meds again this morning and once again she threw them up. I noticed she is no longer making attempts to go to the food bowl on her own. I have to bring it to her and then she sometimes will eat and sometimes won't. My own health is starting to go downhill as well. There are days I forget to even eat or take my own meds because of all of this.

 

The problem is we are all cashed out. We are even debating if we can afford to bring her in for more blood work for her 2 week check up today. My gut feeling is that she is going to slowly go back to what she was before and if that is the case we will have to put her down :(

post #167 of 171
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We brought Sabbath back into the vet for the 2 week check up. She stopped eating on her own and she had a few more vomit issues out of nowhere. She barely fussed or meowed on the way to the vet and I knew that was not a good sign. They ran her blood work and her levels were back on the rise. We made the decision that it was time to let her go. They vet told us they could put her on the steroid shot but it would most likely only make her comfortable until things got worse again. I just could not do that to her. 

 

I thought making the decision to have surgery on myself was the hardest decision I ever made. Now I realize it wasn't. Everything reminds me of her. I keep thinking back when she was a kitten. She was the runt of the litter and she was scared of the world. I remember picking her up and her clawing into my shoulder and holding on to me for dear life. I remember telling her "it's ok little girl.. I am going to take you home and take care of you".

post #168 of 171

I am so sorry.  I really thought with how well she responded at the beginning that she would make it.  You can write a tribute to her in the Crossing the Bridge forum.  http://www.thecatsite.com/f/19/crossing-the-bridge

post #169 of 171

Oh no...gosh I'm so sorry.  Big hugs to you, and RIP dear Sabbath.

post #170 of 171

I'm sorry for your loss. You did all that you could.

post #171 of 171
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On behalf of myself, my husband and Sabbath.. I think all of your for your support as I tried to nurse her back to health. I would have been lost without all of you on here. You have no idea how much your input helped Sabbath have her good moments. I am so grateful to have found this site and all of you caring folks!

http://www.thecatsite.com/t/280185/r-i-p-sabbath-sabby-garcia

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